US Presidential Elections 2016 - Poland's View

The new proposed White House crew now truly justifies the following response at one's next job interview:

Prospective Employer: Well now, Johnny Reb. To be honest, you don't have the requisite background.
Prospective Employee: Neither does our Chief-Executive President 'Wing-It'!!!

:-))

Merged: Farewell song for Hillary and her ranting, rioting, looting and car-burning fans

This cheery song will surely warm your heart:

youtube.com/watch?v=aVlHZh5dvbA

Haha very good.

Some madhouse would welcome Hillary, rather sooner then later. She needs serious observations and therapy.

While wearing an orange jump suit hopefully. (Lock her up)


And obama did ????? LOL
The only job obama ever had was a community organizer in Chicago. (Another one of his failures)
President Trump has not even been sworn in yet and you are belittleing him.
I thought you Libtards wanted to "work together" or is that only a one way street ? lol
So until President Trump takes the helm we should stayed focused on the disaster of the obama Clinton era.
Like the number of people on foodstamps at an all time high or the number of home owners is at an all time low or Benghazi or giving Iran the atomic bomb or how we are still waiting for all those "shovel ready jobs" that never developed or the $21 TRILLION debt our country is now in or more race division than ever or how my health care increased over $4000 when the "Affordable" Care Act (obama Care) was FORCED upon us or.............

take your pick Lyzko.
Tell us how "qualified" obozo was/is and how many rounds of golf he played while in office or how many miles he flew on Air Force One vacationing and what the cost of that was.

Don't talk to me about qualifications for the job because President Trump CAN'T do any worse then obama did.
Now grab your dick and suck it up and face the stark reality that YOUR DISASTEROUS EIGHT YEARS have come to an end and it is now OUR turn for the net eight years. :-)

(Can't wait to get prayer back into our Public Schools)

Maybe he'll also bring back DOMA?

Blahblahblah Harold still angry about Hillary losing the election. Why don't you just stay quiet like you dear friend jon?

How will Trump change the US constitution? I thought it would be very difficult, especially such a fundemental right.

Is there a cosntituional amendment specifically banning prayer in school?

Johnny, again, Obama, W., '41, Clinton etc.. ALL followed a certain modicum of presidential protocall. This guy has merrily, indeed blithely, tossed the rule book out the door. Make no mistake either, there most definitely IS a Platonic order to things, and it's not simply "Let's do your own thing!!!"

There's a right way to act, to live, to think and convention, not personal style, must always be the guide:-)

You don't need to wait: prayer has never been banned from US schools. The right of students and teachers to pray in schools is actually constitutional guaranteed. But I do understand that some people have great trouble in separating reality from the fantasy world they think exists.

There is not only no prayer ban in the constitution (htse were Supreme court rulings), andu even the words "separation of chruch and state" are conspicously absent.

All the US Constituion states is: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof..."
That was a reaction to official religious bodies like the Church of England, the Lutheran Church of Sweden, official Catholicism in Spain, etc. There was to be no one Church of the USA.

The phrase "separation of church and state" is generally traced to a private 1802 letter by Thomas Jefferson who overininetrpeted the constitutional formulation and bent it to suit his own deistic views that rejected most Christian teachings.

One should not forget that the much overpromotoed Jefferson kept Negro slaves -- understandable at the time because his Monticello Estate was in Virginia. But could a man of honour have reneged on his pledge to use Tadeusz Kościuszko's American estate to buy, free and train in goodhusbandry as many Negro slaves as possible? No-one knows where the money went!

Up until the late 50's, there was prayer in public schools in New York City.

Actually it was the early 60's Lyzko.
It wasn't until the early 1960's that prayer in public school was "outlawed" by a new interpretation of the U.S. Constitution.

(Except for the rolling out of rugs so the Muslims are allowed to pray in America's public schools)
In fact, the history of the U.S. includes prayer and Bible readings in all sorts of public places, including schools.
In 1782, the United States Congress passed the following resolution: "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools."

William Holmes McGuffey is the author of the McGuffey Reader, which was used for over 100 years in U.S. public schools with over 125 million copies sold until it was stopped in 1963.

President Lincoln called him the "Schoolmaster of the Nation." McGuffey declared: "The Christian religion is the religion of our country.
Of the first 108 universities founded in America, 106 were distinctly Christian, including the first, Harvard University, chartered in 1636.
In the original Harvard Student Handbook, rule number 1 was that students seeking entrance must know Latin and Greek so that they could study the Scriptures.

Amazing what the Progressive Liberals have done to destroy the foundation of America isn't it.
President Trump will set them straight once they get over the shock of him being America's new President.

Why does Cartman bother posting such blatant untruths? Public prayer in schools is completely legal in all 50 states and protected by the US Constitution.


Chalk up another whopper to the poster who claims that a dead man still lives in Iran. The complete text of rule number one reads as follows.

"1. WHen any Schollar is able to understand Tully, or such like classicall Latine Author extempore, and make and speake true Latine in Verse and Prose, suo ut aiunt Marte; And decline perfectly the Paradigim's of Nounes and Verbes in the Greek tongue: Let him then and not before be capable of admission into the Colledge."

books.google.pl/books?id=5QsTAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA26

Better luck next time Cartman!

Trump will do his best to rid America of the Socialists.
Donald Trump Thinks Kids Should Be Allowed To Pray In School !
Do You Agree?

[Click The Picture To Vote]yesimright.com/donald-trump-thinks-kids-should-be-allowed-to-pray-in-school-do-you-agree-click-the-picture-to-vote/#

When you do Harr please post the results of how America voted.

I attended primary school from '66 - '69 in New York and cannot recall ANY prayer in school:-)

Suppose it depends on where in the country.

The Supreme Court made the ruling in 1962.
Look what it has done to our Country to undermine it.
Low morals and lack of respect for authority to name two.


Credible sources please.
Here are mine that disagree with you.

jesus-is-savior.com/prayer_and_bible_removed.htm

religionandpolitics.org/2012/06/25/when-the-court-took-on-prayer-the-bible-and-public-schools

Fine. Here are the government guidelines:
"Introduction
Section 9524 of the Elementary and Secondary Education Act ("ESEA") of 1965, as amended by the No Child Left Behind Act of 2001, requires the Secretary to issue guidance on constitutionally protected prayer in public elementary and secondary schools. In addition, Section 9524 requires that, as a condition of receiving ESEA funds, a local educational agency ("LEA") must certify in writing to its State educational agency ("SEA") that it has no policy that prevents, or otherwise denies participation in, constitutionally protected prayer in public schools as set forth in this guidance."

ed.gov/policy/gen/guid/religionandschools/prayer_guidance.html

Oh Oh, I must take my time to straighten Harr out AGAIN !


Harr you must learn reading comprehension or maybe you just like to twist words to argue.
Can't wait to get prayer back into the schools "curriculum". Better


And please post those guidelines for us Harr.
If a teacher was to teach anything religious they would be looking for a new job.
The Supreme Court's decisions over the past forty years set forth principles that distinguish impermissible governmental religious speech from the constitutionally protected private religious speech of students.

For example, teachers and other public school officials may not lead their classes in prayer, devotional readings from the Bible, or other religious activities
I can explain it to you Harr but I can't make you understand it.
This is why WE call you stiff upper lipped Brits.
Maybe that is why you are always so confused because you are not an America, never have been to America or never will come to America.

Hell Harr, I was DEPLORABLE before it was cool.

Are Cartman's reading skills so bad that he doesn't recognise a link when he sees one?
ed.gov/policy/gen/guid/religionandschools/prayer_guidance.html

I can't post more than a short introduction to those guidelines here, but the key bit is this:
"In addition, Section 9524 requires that, as a condition of receiving ESEA funds, a local educational agency ("LEA") must certify in writing to its State educational agency ("SEA") that it has no policy that prevents, or otherwise denies participation in, constitutionally protected prayer in public schools as set forth in this guidance."

Now, care to address that lie about the first rule in the original Harvard Student Handbook? Or shall we just chalk that up on the list of stupid things that Cartman says? But Cartman has a long way to go to top that laughable fiction about a dead man who still lives in Iran!

Johnny, so long as the prayer is "areligious", that is, is a common prayer for ALL, not merely majority Christians, I've no problem with this institution:-)

Knowing how politicans the world over use fancy bureaucratese to conceal their true aims, one wouln't be surprised if that qualifying adjective meant freedom to pray in silence. Or recite some vapid, de-theised "universal" prayer to which pupils are unaccustomed. Tell us what is meant by "constitutionally protected".

I do, OUR Country was not founded on Socialism.
People that don't want to accept the core values of America have the freedom to move along to somewhere that suits them better.

For example:


educationworld.com/a_issues/readit/readit016.shtml

So in other words prayer was taken out of the curriculum like we original said.
Glad the light finally came on for you Harr.

In the latest news Trump o.k.'d Texas to put up our new border signs.
They say, "Welcome to Texas, A Sharia - Free - Zone, set your watches 1,400 years ahead."
I admire a man that refuses to stoop to the Lefts 'Political Correctness'.
It's got so bad at our borders that Canada is now building a Wall and they are going to make the Left pay for it. :-)

That was to be expetced. Window-dressing appeasement for the masses -- shunting prayer, one of the most important human activities, off to breaktime or some other marginal sphere. Normally, a brief prayer lasting less than a minute starts the school day and one may be recited at the end as well. The Lord's Prayer takes only 24 seconds to recite. A minute of instructional time will not derail the curriculum but will position prayer where it belongs: at the start or centre of things, not as an also-ran in some obscure, peripheral neverland.

Don't see your point, Johnny. Do you mean you are or aren't in favor of prayer in public vs. private schools?

I trust you don't mean that an enforced prayer exclusively for majority Christians in which, say, Muslim or Jewish pupils are forced to participate, is somehow "just", do you?

:-)

The God of the three major monotheistic faiths is one and the same whether He is called the God of Abraham (Ibrahim), Jehova (Jahwe), Allah or whatever. A universal prayer to Almighty God is easy to agree, if there's a will to do so.

I am not aware of anything called "EnForced Prayer".
Is that another one of those Liberal Politically Correct words used for brainwashing ?


That is a total lie Lyzko and you should be ashamed of yourself for spreading it.
And even if it was true the Muslims and Jews have the freedom to return to their homeland if they do not like the culture on what America was founded upon.

Why you Socialists insist on demoralizing and changing what America was founded on, THE BIBLE, is beyond me. IN GOD WE TRUST
You b!tch constantly bout Christianity in America being the foundation of this country yet everyone wants to come here for the freedoms this country offers and bring with them what they are escaping to change the culture here to the ilk they left. :-/

President Trump will hopefully pound this into people's heads until they get it.