US Presidential Elections 2016 - Poland's View

What a surprise that Cartman now claims he said something he didn't say.

Johnny, for the umpteenth time, (colonial) America was founded on supposed religious "tolerance", for ALL FAITHS!!
That certain people's thinking hasn't kept up with the changing times, that is, America today is ethnically/religiously diverse and not so during colonial days, is scarcely the liberals' fault now, is it?

Grow up, dude!

One more reason for President Trump to build the Trump Wall to close our borders.
And for the umpteenth time the founding Fathers used the BIBLE BELIEFS to write the Constitution of this country, not the Cow's.

You're surely aware of the well-known fact, that Christianity not only derived from Judaism, but that the leading players of the Old Testament were JEWS!!

:-)

President Trump will hopefully revive President Bush's DOMA, the Defence of marriage Act, which forbade using the term marriage for deviant hook-ups or anything that is not a consensual union between one man and one woman. The formerly ruling liberal-leftist clique had catered to small but vociferous minorities in order to demoralise, corrupt and overturn the normal American family and thereby disintegrate society as a whole. For them chaos and disruption were the murky waters in which they thought they could catch more fish!

Whilst a conservative to the extreme in my personal views, Polonius, I still believe that divorce should remain an option, if domestic life becomes a virtual hell for either the spouse or especially, the child(-ren):-)

Moreoever, although I find wanton abortion per se as repugnant in principal as flag burning, our Constitution nonetheless safeguards such decisions.
The problem in our country, among MANY, way too many to enumerate here, the Constitution exists precisely for when such decisions are the most painful. It's not a quick-fix, any more than, marriage itself.

I'm reminded of that ever so moving final summation at the conclusion of the trial sequence in "Judgement at Nuremberg", when Spencer Tracey aka Judge Dan Haywood, states "A nation is not a rock! It's a composite of its people... when standing for something means standing up for what we believe in, even when it hurts.."

I'm paraphrasing just a little, but one can only imagine how well Hillary would've done against this Joke-in-Chief, had she relied more on fine screen writing to propagandize her point of view, and far less on some hack speech writers:-))

God saved us from her evil with a miracle.


Let's go back to this lie before we move on with something else.


Then why should they be offended with the New Testament that our founding Fathers used to write the Constitution ?
You just want to argue crap that concerns how you want it 'your Progressive Liberal way'.
The reason President Trump got elected was because people were sick and tired of Progressive Political Correctness.
Did you see in the vote recount that Trump actually got more votes then what was reported ?

I'm merely chiding you for thinking that this is a CHRISTIAN, rather than a JUDEO-Christian nation:-)

Trump's simply pulled out all the stops, that's all, eliciting and soliciting the inner bully in us all and transforming us BACK into the animals from which we descended, plainly put!!

I don't know the full text of the Defence of Marriage Act and don't know if it even dealt with divorce and abortion, but I believe its main thrust was not to equate same-sex unions with matrimony. The term marriage was to be reserved for a union between one man and one woman.

Gay marriages/Same-sex unions I find abhorrent, yet, constitutionally (albeit not religiously) defensible:-)

Aw come on Pol, you know that the Liberal Socialists use terms that change that definition to their Political Correctness liking.


Again, that is what made our country great, guns, guts and the Bible.........
you demanding that your Liberal Socialist Political Correct limp wristed sissies should take over what we built is just wrong.
The fittest survive, not the unemployed free loading cry baby wimps that still are in shock that the Hildebeast is now a "has been".


Not at all Lyzko.
Pick up a dictionary and read the definition of what a "MARRIAGE" is.
Hey did you see where Time Magazine put President Trump on the cover as MAN OF THE YEAR !
They had to recall the publications that they had printed with Crooked Hillary on the cover of it as "Madam President."

Why don'tcha just face facts, Johnny! You along with Jane & Joe six-pack can't stand to see a woman in the White House, period:-)

G-D, guns, and guts rarely win wars, they simply forestall peace. Doggedness may do it, but cleverness clinches it, pal, in Hollywood, as in real lifeLOL

Because a prissy (yip yip yip) isn't big enough to do anything about it against such an 'animal' (ROAR) Hillbilly KKK bad azz as you call me. :-)

BOO ! (as Lyzko wets himself)


When did I ever say that so why are you coming off the wall making up such a stupid statement.
However since YOU brought it up definitely not a felonies criminal, habitual liar and one with a slush fund foundation filled with millions in contributions from foreign countries like Crooked Hillary for sure !!!!!

(Dam the truth stings dunnit !)
We would have voted for Condoleezza Rice (black & female) if she ran against Crooked Hillary.
You better start getting over it soon son because next month when President Trump takes over you will be a basket case when Hillary gets her orange jump suit and gets thrown into the slammer for the rest of her natural life. (Lock her up !)

I thought the Dems were asking to have a "united" country that worked "together"..........oh wait, that was when you thought the Hildebeast was going to win by a "landslide".

Now your hypocritical true hate colors are coming out.
Maybe we should close this thread until the tears stop and reality sinks in and you regain your composure.


Correction......'Person' of the year.

...and Hitler was voted "Man of the Year" in 1938, so Time-Life showed her true colors on both occasions:-) 'Course, Henry Luce was an anti-Semite, who just happened to have a soft spot for Henry Gruenwald, 'cuz the latter was a damned good journalist!!

Lyzko you are just going to have to get over it and accept the fact that President Trump will be your President for the next four years and probably the next eight years since the Democratic Party is in complete shambles.

You should be happy we have a President that is going to do something besides fly around in Air Force One and play golf.

No delcared atheist should be paid for his work in dollars because he does not espouse the motto "In God we trust". Instead, they should receive their salaries in kind: flour, potatoes, sugar, salt, groats. etc. and come with a hired trailer to collect it on payday.

I disagree as that is all atheists will ever know Pol.
The 'worldly' goods and desires.
That's why God let's them have their "fun/glory/sin" here on earth because they will never get to see the splendor of heaven for eternity.

Did anyone see Michael Moore on the Seth Adams talk show last night ?
He made a very good point (as much as I detest the man).
He explained that Trump has only made THREE National Security briefings in the last month !
These come out every day for the Presidents to make him aware of problems that could effect American's safety.
Moore said that Trump has plenty of time to send out childish tweets about SNL's Alex Baldwin poor imitations of him yet has no time to attend National Security briefings.

Makes me wonder WHO is REALLY running the asylum.

I ask myself that question every time I hear Trump's voice or see his sour puss on the screenLOL

And Ben Carson's SOLE experience for becoming Housing Sec. is that he grew up in the projects????!

We've become the laughing stock of the Western World with no one to blame but ourselves:)

I have to agree with you today Lyzko.
The near future is not looking good for America by any means.
Do you think it may go as far as full blown anarchy ?

Or they could be paid in the most people in Poland are paid, i.e. by wire transfer into a bank account. I understand that some people who wish to avoid tax prefer to paid in piece of paper stating we trust god.

The laughing stock of the Western World's horse-blinkered leftist-liberals who do not see the pendulum swinging to the right all about them. Like the KODists, they are trying to hold onto the liberal-leftist-PC poltical and media moopoly --something that is fading into the past.

Ah, the good old days when workers used to be the property of the factory owner ... how we all miss these times ... :)

Just give Trump and the GOP a few years and your dream might come true - not only for atheists, but for all Americans. Ryan is already talking again about privatizing Medicare, Carrier and other corporations will just grab the money and reinvest into automation (cutting even more jobs in the process), and the few jobs that can sustain a whole family will be so scarce that people will do pretty much anything their employers demand.

Many people who were screaming "Make America great again" haven't realized yet that they might have shot themselves in the foot. Removing cheap Chinese products from the equation and bringing those stone age manufacturing jobs back to the US for example will result in only one thing: much higher prices for everything. And who won't be able to pay for that? Exactly...

Actually it says, "In God We Trust" but close enough.
Since over 90% of the people in America believe in God it is most appropriate.
Besides, it's Gods money, He just lets us use it as a tool temporarily.


Pol they are still in shock that Trump drubbed Clinton.
Just wait until Trump actually starts draining the swamp and those leftist-liberals are really going to start whining.


"WE" ? You were not even born yet nor did you live in America during that era. lol


Horrors ! to think an employee take orders from his/her boss........unheard of.


Actually more then just one thing, they will also take low skilled workers off the welfare dole, make higher quality products, increase the tax base to run the country, create self pride, give the workers money to buy said products making America Great Again.

A win win.

PolAms don't do sarcasm. We all know that.


Read before you post. How often do I have to tell you this? What I said is that employers will be able to lower wage levels significantly because people will compete for the few remaining jobs.


Minimum wage doesn't cut it, my orange friend. You can't buy anything that is manufactured in the US (except for burgers) with the handouts that most blue collar workers here earn. Unless you "deposit" your kids at a daycare center that is, and both you and your wife are willing to work two jobs. Without benefits, of course. Do you have even the slightest idea what being a working poor really means in this country?


... and replacing it with what? Billionaire friends, career politicians, white supremacists and ex military? You were conned, Johnny, you just don't realize it yet.

Things are tougher than they once were in the US but it's not only abotu the wages. Many people are poor at finances, live beyond their means and fall into the credit trap. The whole time they are trying to keep two steps ahead of the bill collector. The mega-advertising empire is bombarding people with consumer temptations, much of it pure junk no-one really needs, but the constant haranguing breaks down consuemr resistance and works wonders for the expłoiters. Why aren't schools and parents teaching kids frugality, sensible spending and saving up for things rather than taking out loans to have it immediately.

"WE" ? You were not even born yet nor did you live in America during that era. lol




No, no you did not.
What you said was:




Is that affordable for a minimum wage worker ?
No it is not as a day care is not in their budget so either a relative or friend will have to step up to help out.

(If you can't feed them then don't breed them)


And if two jobs each isn't enough get a third one.


Yes I do wiz bang as I had NOTHING when I finished college (that I paid for myself without taking out a loan or borrowing a penny from my parents or was I EVER on any government assistance or subsides). It can be done.

I know what sacrificing is, I know what hard work is, I know what making good choices are.
Like Pol said, the kids today have been conditioned to wanting it new and wanting it now.
Babies are expensive and when you have a couple when you are only making minimum wage is not making a very good choice is it.

In fact you have little to no chance of ever getting ahead until the kids are gone.
But no, we want three kids, two dogs, a new car, a plush apartment, cable t.v., eat out at restaurants four nights a week on our minimum wage jobs so we can keep up with the Joneses.

Reality check ! We can't all be winners, we all aren't smart enough to have six figure jobs, we all aren't blessed with unlimited resources to live a life like we would like to be accustomed to because a minimum wage job does not allow that. duh !


Because Pol, this generation has been brought up with IMMEDIATE gratification.
When they hear the word "work" they immediately think "Mexican."
Do you have any idea how many 18 year olds have gone on mental disability in this country so they don't have to work, get a disability social security check and medicare health insurance free ?

This generation of over protective helicopter moms that hover over their kids have handi capped them by enabling them helpless.
Then when they get their first minimum wage job that isn't even enough to pay their monthly cell phone bill they start talking like TheOther.


LOL, yes, yes I do and I knew the day of reckoning wasn't far off.
President Trump will be cutting off these freebie programs and make it so if you don't want to work then don't eat.
John Wayne said it best, "Life is hard enough......and when you are dumb it is even harder."
Kids today are coming out of high school today and literally can not read or write or add and subtract, have tattoo's plastered all over them, buttons in their lips, pink hair and have their face stuck in their cell phones yet they want a job that pays $40 an hour. LOL

Sound like you are one of them TheOther with the pity party you are trying to grease us with.

Wow! TheOther isn't someone who just got his first minimum wage job, is he?


This concept of IMMEDIATE gratification explains a lot, yet it is not commonly recognized. Indirectly, this need to become rich in a short time combined with the efficiency of the capitalist system leads to the excessive exploitation of natural resources of the Earth. More and more people get even richer, indeed, but we should ask ourselves what the cost of it is.

I remember one scientist saying : Planet Earth has been able to keep itself in the state of a certain balance for hundreds of millions of years and I am sure it will rather kill the man than let him kill itself.

I doubt that but it is very obvious that he is not happy where he is financially.
He thinks it is Corporate America's fault that he has failed.
My point to these losers here is that NO, not everyone in life gets a trophy, are extremely wealthy, drive a new car, dine out every evening.

Yet these whiny asz brats have had everything handed to them by Mom and Dad and then leave the nest they are in shock that they can not afford such a life style.

They refuse to live within their BUDGET and go in debt living beyond it to live a life style they want to be accustomed to.

They have never learned the words, NO, you can't afford it.
When the debt collectors catch up with them (Reality) they have no other choice but to go on welfare because of their BAD CHOICES 'THEY' have made.

They then start crying the world is not fair with their BLAME GAME.
It is everyone else's fault that they have screwed their lives up by thinking the world owes them a living.
They then become Progressive Liberals and vote for a living to have the REDISTRIBUTION of wealth.
Take from the rich who have lived within their BUDGET and give to the poor who have not.
I don't feel that after working all my life (sometimes three jobs), living within my BUDGET, saving and sacrificing so now in old age I can live modestly that I should have to give half what I have to someone who refuses to admit that all they are worth is minimum wage and should learn to live within that BUDGET.

This why they FEAR President Trump is because he is going to shut off a lot of these government subsidies (that pay thrice what a minimum wage job does) and FORCE these people to go get a minimum wage job. Horrors !

Get used to it for the next 4 years and stop pretending you are actually laughing.

Very true. That's one of the problems with our system: it only works if demand is constantly increasing. But it's not only that. Why is education so expensive these days? To get a halfway decent job, you will often need a college education. Have you taken a look at the tuition rates lately? Unbelievable. And then they are astonished why people go bankrupt.


Because the system needs to be fed. If you interrupt the flow of cheap crap from China and move those manufacturing jobs back to the US, prices will explode and demand will drop big time as a result. In other words: a nice little recession.


LOL! No, I wasn't born during the Industrial Revolution when this practice was really popular. Certain PolAms don't do sarcasm, as I said already...


... and certain PolAms can't read between the lines either... :)


People work several jobs to be able to leave their kids at a daycare center so they can work several jobs (understand what I'm saying or do I have to repeat slowly?). If you claim that this is not the case, then you really have no clue what's going on in this country. Most likely, you never had kids either.


Oh, I believe you, but you forget that in today's world, many people don't have the chance anymore to get out of poverty through hard work. Why? Because the jobs that are out there do not pay enough, and the few that do are highly sought after. Unfortunately, their numbers are dwindling, and no Orange Messiah will be able to change that.

Read this article, it's very telling (and please don't tell me it's garbage just because it's from CNN):
money.cnn.com/2016/12/08/news/companies/carrier-jobs-automation/index.html

"Output at U.S. factories is up 150% in last 40 years. But U.S. manufacturing jobs have plunged by more than 30% in that same period. And automation is a big reason why. And it's not a trend that's going to end with Carrier or even with manufacturers. A recent study by McKinsey & Co. said that 45% of the tasks that U.S. workers are currently paid to perform can be automated by existing technology. That represents about $2 trillion in annual wages."

This is where we are heading! You think coal mining will help us?


You fail to understand that it shouldn't be necessary to work two or three jobs to make ends meet. You are essentially telling us that the minions should work themselves to death because it is totally fair that large corporations make billions of tax free profits which they hide abroad. Turkeys voting for Christmas, Johnny.