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US Presidential Elections 2016 - Poland's View



johnny reb
19 Feb 2017  #1321

It's the late "Dr." Leary who's at fault

Now wait I thought it was Trumps fault ?????
Typical Liberal Logic, "it is always the others guys fault and the Liberal Snowflakes are the victims."
Time to man up cause your 'blame game' is getting steam rolled by Trump.
And I'm Lovin' it !

Lyzko
19 Feb 2017  #1322

We all get ours in the end, and you are no exception:-)

Without Leary, there'd be no Trump, at least not in his present incarnation!

johnny reb
19 Feb 2017  #1323

Did you see Trumps 2020 Campaign rally last night held in Florida ?
He had the place just a rockin' with women voters, Black voters, Latino voters and gay voters.
Trump is making America Great Again.
Trump in 2020 !

Lyzko
19 Feb 2017  #1324

Hmmm. methinks thou art contradicting thyself, Johnny......AGAIN!!!

What's really nuts is that the man's even got full-Jewish in-laws, his daughter converted to marry Jared, yet the far-anti-Semitic right such as Herr Fuehrer Richard Spencer, love him.

Any explanations?

johnny reb
19 Feb 2017  #1325

Nothing to explain, you progressive liberals true colors came out and many saw you for what you snowflakes really are which is hypocritical cry babies that are full of hate and trying to bully people with violent protests that turn into riots.

You dumb suns a biches have shot yourselves in the foot as Trump has gained millions of new voters because of your temper tantrums.
And I'm lovin' it !
Donald Trump in 2020 !

johnny reb
20 Feb 2017  #1326

Picking John Bolton as national security advisor will not MAGA.
Instead, it will open the floodgates for neocons chomping at the bit to drive US foreign policy after they were sidelined in favor of humanitarian warmongers during the reign of Obama, a breed more palatable to hoodwinked Democrats who only hate war when it is waged by Republicans.

johnny reb
20 Feb 2017  #1327

After President Trump 'Spanked' the media last week so boldly the people are seeing exactly how 'Fake News' is destroying America.
It was a common sentiment at the rally in an airplane hangar, flanked by Air Force One and attended by about 9,000 people.
There were chants of "CNN sucks!" and "Tell the truth!"

Trump has exposed the Liberal Media for what it is to the point there is no denying it anymore.
The bias Liberal Media is the Snowflakes main weapon which is being disassembled by President Trump little by little every day.
This angers the Left more than anything which causes their anger and hate to become uncontrollable.
"They're stonewalling everything that Trump is doing because they're just being babies about it," said Patricia Melani, 56, a Jersey native who now lives here and attended her third Trump rally Saturday.

"All the loudmouths? They need to let it go.
Let it go. Shut their mouths and let the man do what he's got to do.
We all shut our mouths when obama got in the second time around, okay?
So that's what really needs to be done." (Did ya hear that Lyzko, it applies directly to you)
She blames the media for circulating "fake" stories about the president like when she believed he was "very cool, wasn't yelling" at a Thursday news conference, yet a CNN anchor described his behavior as "unhinged."

"There's such hatred for the man," she said.
And that is because these new millennials have been given a participation trophy by their helicopter over protective Moms their entire lives and told that there are not any losers in life when the truth of the matter is that sometimes you get the bear and sometimes the bear gets you.

Moochelle obama spent eight years trying to get these Snowflakes out of their parents basement and getting then out from behind their computers to get some fresh air and exercise and failed while Trump in his first month has got them ALL out on the streets walking five city blocks jumping up and down protesting.

That is the most exercise they have got in the last eight years which just shows you how clever Trump is. lol
His way may be a little ruff on the edges but they are working no matter what the Fake News Media is trying to feed us.

Marsupial
20 Feb 2017  #1328

The problem in the last 20 years is the emergence of that sort of news. First it was to sell many papers now to get many clicks. Same thing. The news i am talking about is not reported in a neutral manner but spiked with attitude and bias. Not really reporting but reporting from a particular angle. Fortunately there is actual journos still left out there.

Polonius3
20 Feb 2017  #1329

actual journos still left out there

There aren't too many in Poland. I don't read every paper and mag but the main ones are either obsessively anti-PiS or pro-PiS. The vitriol with which the govt is attacked provkes an extreme reaction which in turn provokes another extreme riposte...etc., etc. ad nauseam.

If they coild KOD would canonise the 21-year-old who rammed Szydło's Audi. So the PiS faction dredged up a simialr case with Komorowski where nobody, neither PO nor the media, took in interest in the lady who caused the accident.

delphiandomine
20 Feb 2017  #1330

Fortunately there is actual journos still left out there.

Tygodnik Powszechny is a very credible publication, as it's not afraid to attack people on all sides of the political spectrum and promotes a moderate, centrist view of Catholic politics. For that reason, it's hated by quite a few people, although it's clearly an intellectual publication.

Worth reading if you want a fair view of things in Poland.

Polonius3
20 Feb 2017  #1331

very credible publication

Admittedly TP is not seething with PiS-bashing vitriol and hate speech the way GW and Newsweek are, but it is not above the fray and clearly dispays a pro-opposition stance. For one thing, which president pins a medal on soemone is also quite telling in today's polarised Poland. Father Boniecki got oen from from Komorowski.

Anyway, I asked the quesiton in Google what are Poland's most objective newspapers and mags and got the following reply:
Wszystkie telewizje i czasopisma sa nie obiektywne, Jedynie radiowa Trojka i Jedynka trzymaja jako taki poziom obiektywizmu. (No TV stations or periodicals are objective. Only Polish Radio 3 and Polish Radio 1 maintian a middling level of objectivity.")

Lyzko
20 Feb 2017  #1332

And imagine insulting John McCain by calling him a "loser" merely because the latter has the guts to defend a free press!!
Trump's projecting again, that's all:-)

johnny reb
21 Feb 2017  #1333

LOL - John McCain was called a loser because he attacked the United States President while on foreign soil.
He should be hung as he sure the hell is no war hero.
He is washed up and should have been put out to pasture a long time ago because his expiration date is long over due.
Glad he has no influence in our government.
He still thinks the Republican Party is running our country as the Dems think they are.
Catch on people, Trump is not being influenced by either, Trump is doing what is right to make America Great Again.
And he is being very successful in keeping those campaign promises.
What a breath of fresh air.
And I'm lovin' it !

Ziemowit
21 Feb 2017  #1334

Anyway, I asked the quesiton in Google what are Poland's most objective newspapers and mags

I will surely include RZECZPOSPOLITA daily into the most objective ones. Definitely, the paper gives the most balanced view on Polish internal affairs. I also remember their fair reporting of the US Presidental election 2016.

Lyzko
21 Feb 2017  #1335

Apparently, Johnny, among the myriad things you don't comprehend (too many to enumerate, really) is the meaning of a "war hero"!
McCain endured torture which would have surely beaten both you and me, insisted on staying with his men in the Hanoi jail rather than bargain for early release. And he NEVER COMPLAINED OR BEGGED FOR SPECIAL MERCY!!!

Was it his fault that both his father and grandfather were both high-ranking generals in two wars, much less that the North Vietnamese held him in higher regard than your pleb prisoner???! By the time it was too late, the war was already over (1973) and the US LOST!!!

Come one, man! Have a heart, what am I talking about, have a brain!
lol

delphiandomine
21 Feb 2017  #1336

And he NEVER COMPLAINED OR BEGGED FOR SPECIAL MERCY!!!

It's the exact reason that I can respect Senator McCain, even if I don't agree with his politics. We know how the Vietnamese did torture, and for him to endure that for more than 5 years is just incredible.

Mind you, watching the village rednecks abuse McCain is just hilarious, especially as most of them are only tough when they're shooting defenceless animals.

Lyzko
21 Feb 2017  #1337

Right on, Delph! Trump's a scumbag and we all know it:-)

johnny reb
22 Feb 2017  #1338

Trump's a scumbag

and a bigot and a racist and a homophobe and a xenophobe and a white supremacist, and a misogynist and a .......where does all your hate come from Lyzbo!

Trump is such a breath of fresh air to be the first president in my lifetime that is keeping his campaign promises.
Didn't you say you and your family would be moving to Canada if Trump got elected Lyzko ?
What happened with that ?
Build the Wall, Drain the Swamp, Lock Her Up,
Make America Great again !
Trump 2020 !

Lyzko
22 Feb 2017  #1339

You're as usual confusing fresh air with pollution:-) Shows where the toxic waste from PF comes from, doesn't it!

You know I never said we'd move to Canada, 'cuz we're still here, aren't we? No, we'll just have to practice more Black Market ways, that's all. What works and worked in the Old Soviet Union and in Russia today, is alive and well and practiced right here in the good ol' USA.

johnny reb
22 Feb 2017  #1340

Russia's economy is failing miserably.
Keep right on practicing living in a failed economy as that is what the Liberals are protesting for.
I choose to help make America Great Again.
I guess you could say that I am an All American and you are not.
You would make a great Canadian citizen Lyzko, please reconsider.

TheOther
22 Feb 2017  #1341

You're as usual confusing fresh air with pollution

He also believes that coal mining is the future, what do you expect? :)

Marsupial
22 Feb 2017  #1342

Haha its true the Trumpster is a throwback to 40 years ago when it comes to tech. That's something he can't win in the long run. Besides, every leftie will stop burning shops for 5 minutes and actually vote next election. My prediction is....next usa election biggest voter turn out EVER.

Lyzko
22 Feb 2017  #1343

Exactly, TheOther. Anybody who's anybody knows it's plastics:-)
lol

delphiandomine
22 Feb 2017  #1344

He also believes that coal mining is the future, what do you expect? :)

Of course, just so long as those mines are nowhere near any properties of his.

Lyzko
22 Feb 2017  #1345

Reagan once stated (in all seriousness, apparently) that trees cause air pollution. Trump merely comes from a long line of ignoroses:-)
Or is it "ignoramuses", I never could remember!

Marsupial
22 Feb 2017  #1346

I am use to it here. We have uneducated idiots on telly telling us their version of science, laughable babble. Just be sure to show your kids the actual science from actual scientists and demonstrate how dumb and/ or corrupt the conman on telly is. That is what i do. My 9 year old has come to the conclusion that these people are the equivalent of the times the catholic church talked about science. Little bugga is right.

Lyzko
22 Feb 2017  #1347

There's a fair bit of anti-Semitism too over there, isn't there?

Marsupial
22 Feb 2017  #1348

None of those other things matter now lyzko. Now that the anti science war has started none of our kids or us who at least finished high school will listen to anything he says or buy anything made that way. It's a done deal. That is the end of trumpet for us. Just a snake oil salesman now.

Lyzko
22 Feb 2017  #1349

Well I'm relieved about that, marsupial, since they DO seem to matter here thanks to President Trump and his half-ass support staff:-)

Marsupial
22 Feb 2017  #1350

You can have debates about all sorts of things and have many point of views. As soon as you deny scientific fact you are dumb. He probably will fix lots of things in the states but the method won't sustain it. I am not in the USA so would hate to tell you how to live. Based on your voter turn out i think a large number of Americans don't care one bit for their country. Anyway, i am done with this thread.


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