Poland under pressure of EU to accept more asylum seeking refugees

Turks don't rly tend to blow ppl up... They're more of a victim of that by other groups. The Kurds wage an insurgency against them but I can kind of understand why. There's like 40 mil of them without much of an official homeland aside from perhaps northern iraq

Not yet, at any rate! Give this Erdogan bloke time though, and I'm not so sure.

kurds are far from a unified group there are several different languages and at least two literary standards (in different alphabets) and lots of other divisions. One thing of note: Turkish Kurds tend to be more religious than Turks while Iraqi Kurds tend to be significantly less religious than other Iraqis... Turkish Kurds in Europe tend to be overrepresented in crime while other Kurds are much less involved....

The Kurds, like the Azaberjani, speak a language closely related to, yet NOT mutually intelligible with, Turkish.

No. Kurdish languages are Indo-Aryan, therefore Indo-European related to Persian (Farsi), Pashtun, Tajik and others.

Turkish and Azeri/baijani are Altaic, different language family (though not all linguists accept Altaic as a single family)

Apologies then, Maf! I remembered that Farsi and a few others were in fact Indo-European aka "-Aryan" languages as well, but forgot about Kurdish. That would also explain how different the word stock from the Turkic-based Turkish (despite of course the extra-heavy Arabic overlay from centuries of Ottoman rule).

Azeri though I know for a fact is Turkic in origin, since a number of her basic greeting phrases track nearly the same as Turkish!

Merrit Ruhlen from Harvard, I believe, classifies Altaic with "Nostratic", which even includes Basque, Burshaski along with a few other language isolates,
:-)

Not sure if anything still takes that seriously. Nice idea, but....

Hey, we eventually rejected Budenz' fancy theory of the relationship between Hungarian and Turkish, but it sure held sway for a long time. Most theories are supplanted eventually by other ones:-)

Get back in your box Jon.

Other than the term "towelhead" there was nothing nasty about Polonius' comment.

A disproportionate number of Muslim men have groomed white English girls......fact

Wonder how many white Anglos have wanted to gang rape young Muslim women. Violence cuts both ways, friend:-)

Do you seriously believe something like that would be covered up by the press?

On the other hand: lr-online.de/regionen/elbe-elster/herzberg/Es-gab-fuer-mich-keine-Anzeichen;art1056,6087875

"model" Syrian refugee up and slits his female boss's throat (she survived)

buried lede: it seems that it might be a result of him 'gettin' religion' he went from unobservant muslim to talking about Allah a lot to trying to kill his (female) boss in that order. Let that sink in.

Keep wondering.

It is impossible to know what people "want" to do. What we do know is that Muslim men from Pakistani and Bangladeshi origins have abused white English girls.

German youth in years past had been known to abuse Turkish teenage girls, and more than even several times.

But it's that potential that keeps his worldview from crumbling.

To which "he" would you be referring?

Source?

Don't make the mistake and confuse Turks with Kurds, by the way. Many Germans of Turkish (as in 'nationality') descent are actually Kurds. Call them Turks and you are in big trouble.

I'd never make such a mistake either, TheOther. However, it is well known that German anger at Turks has gone back at least thirty-five years or so and counting! In "retaliation" for Turkish men allegedly raping German girls, German men were known to take matters into their own hands.

Why.... you! You seem unable to accept the fact that muslims in Europe sexually (and otherwise) assault native women in far greater numbers than ever happens in the reverse

Maf, as always, it depends on where you get your information. Local sources are known to be, shall we say, on the biased side:-) No different from here in the States, in fact. Perhaps things have changed in the South (though Chaney's mother publically stated that if so, then not by much) for instance, yet if an incidence of white-black rape comes up, guess which side the law's going to be on!

Even the likes of Morris Deeds can't change a leopard's spots.

Do you challenge the newspaper? On what ground?

Find examples of westerners sexually assaulting muslim women (in Europe) and then we'll talk. Otherwise you don't have a leg to stand on.

Rotherham vs ??????

Berlin unfortunately has had her spate of attacks on Turkish women, though not recently, I'm pleased to say, but again, as an act of revenge against alleged rape of German girls by Turkish male teens.

Ya can't make this stuff up, pal. We all wish this kind of thing weren't so,....but it is. The facts don't lie even when the news media may:-))

> Town of 7,000 in Pennsylvania, USA abruptly received 40 Roma/gypsy refugees

"The residents cited trash in yards, disruptions in town markets, children and men defecating in public streets, and immigrants cutting off the heads of chickens in public areas, according to a report by WTAE-TV. None of the immigrants, who are undocumented, have been charged with any other serious criminal offenses."

theblaze.com/news/2017/07/16/community-outraged-after-feds-move-in-romanian-gypsies-defecating-in-streets-trash-in-yards

Italy too has had her share of problems with the Sinti-Roma, people defecating on local property etc. Awful, but nothing entirely new.

Then it should be easy to find a citation, I no longer accept assertions at face value.

We can both make claims.

Americans have been known to abuse Polish girls in the past.

This redirect on the thread was because Jon claimed someone had made nasty comments by saying that muslims have abused young white girls which is indeed fact and a well known news story here in the UK

But none of the pro-diversity-for-its-own-sake want to realize that. The plain fact is that different cultures have very different value sets and not all cultural combinations work well (or can be made to work). The cultures of North Africa and the Middle East might have their virtues and many people there might be wonderful individuals but in large numbers they are incompatiable with.... just about everybody else. Large scale muslim immigration to Europe might be able to work with the attitudes in the 1950s and 60s but since then the Muslim world has been evolving away from the rest of the planet. Fine. That's their choice but it makes them (en masse) not very successful immigrants as they divert too much attention away from integration and into maintaining separation and trying to force local populations to respect their cultural norms - which ain't gonna happen.

Western society ****** out White women. They are showcased laying with any & every. Why would Men from different cultures (especially a more conservative one) respect them?

It's already happening. Whether out of sincere respect (probably a small minority), fear or obsessive clinging to the tenets of the PC religion, it is Western elites, less so ordinary people, that have been bending over backwards to accommodate, indulge and do everything not to offend the misbehaving house guests. One PF poster not long ago ranted and swore up nad down that there were no no-go zones in Europe. Now the Muslim intruders themselves are waving placards calling for Shariah areas in their foreign countries of residence. Already, thank God, there are signs of change. Even many poltical elites are saying enough is enough. Italy is clearly fed up by the migrant onslaught and even Germany has started to crack down. The bottom line is that only 14,000 of the 160,000 refugees from Italy and Greece the EU wants to relocate have been relocated so far. Even Germany which sttted the whole mess has not met its quota. Brussels should first go after the ex-colonial countries that have a moral obligation to make amends.

Mafketis always speaks a lot of sense no this topic but I agree.....it is already happening.

I have seen first hand how it works. Muslims tend to ghetto-ise certain sections of a town or city. Then, when they have enough numbers, they either vote for a political party in the local election who is sympathetic to their culture i.e. a left wing party or a muslim candidate (who generally represents the left wing anyway).

Muslim roots become deeper as the years go by. The Left Wing party loves them as they are a guaranteed vote. The muslims don't split their vote like the rest of us-they typically will only vote for one party which is a powerful voting strategy in elections.

People seem to think that social change happens from a national, government level......it doesn't. It happens unnoticed at a small local level and then spreads. By the time it becomes an issue the government and public authorities are already having to switch into "reaction mode".

People are missing what I've written. I said they want non-Muslims to _respect_ Muslim norms. And that doesn't happen, even when liberals give in on lots of muslim special demands for special treatment there's no respect (it's humoring their silly beliefs) and that just exacerbates demands for more. It's a vicious circle.

Modern Eruopeans are not likely to respect muslim ideas about the strict segregation of men and women (for example), even if they play along at times they're liable to think it's silly and has nothing to do with true morality. The muslims pick up on that and so they demand more concessions.

Mainstream muslim and modern European cultures just do not go together anymore than marshmallows and gravel do. A few secularly oriented highly educated muslims can and do very well in Europe but that's not most of who's coming (also remember that immigration tends to strengthen religious observance in the immigrating community - and a constant stream of new arrivals maintains these heightened levels).