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Poland under pressure of EU to accept more asylum seeking refugees



Marsupial
21 Jun 2015  #121

So the eu effectively has agreed to take polands quota. These ppl with no skills, no language and no anything or jobs will mostly flee west. The eu is doing some heavy lifting for poland and some of those ppl seem deluded thats its ready. Poland will definately be doing some of the heavy lifting in 10 to 20 years and the eu will prosper from that but it's too early. One thing that makes me laugh at ppl say from ukip who don't understand they are half way or more through having done some of this work done want to now waste it all and get nothing for it. No vision.

jon357
21 Jun 2015  #122

These ppl with no skills, no language and no anything or jobs will mostly flee west.

A lot of the refugees may well be highly qualified and educated people who haven't been able to legally leave - these people could be an asset to Poland or wherever they end up.

Poland will definately be doing some of the heavy lifting in 10 to 20 years and the eu will prosper from that but it's too early.

This is true. At the moment, Poland has a huge issue with refugees from Eastern Ukraine - and this is growing.

Wulkan
21 Jun 2015  #123

Poland has a huge issue with refugees from Eastern Ukraine

Why do you call refugees from Ukraine an issue and potential refugees from the middle east not?

jon357
21 Jun 2015  #124

@Wulkan, because they've arrived and the others haven't yet.

The numbers are far larger too. I sometimes go to Ukrainski Swiat, one of the refugee projects in Warsaw and there are a lot - really a lot - of people who have come.

Wulkan
21 Jun 2015  #125

I sometimes go to Ukrainski Swiat, one of the refugee projects in Warsaw and there are a lot - really a lot - of people who have come.

Isn't that good? so many young Poles (including myself) left Poland, we need to feel this gap.

Polsyr
21 Jun 2015  #126

Don't worry Wulkan, soon people of different nationalities will also be filling the gap.

Wulkan
21 Jun 2015  #127

Polsyr, will they culturally enrich us?

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Levi
21 Jun 2015  #128

"There is talk back in Brussels that Poland will agree to accept the quota system for asylum seekers against reassurances that other EU countries (especially Germany) will not soften their stand (sanctions) against Russia. Conclusion: the asylum seekers are coming"

Utter Rubbish. Just in your dreams. Or if you still think that PO have any chances at parliamentary elections.

PO will lose the parliament in July. PiS will have full government and not even in your WILDEST dream they will allow Poland be overtook by illegal immigrants from Lybia. (DONT call them Asylum seekers, they are illegal immigrants with dubius past, not asylum seekers).

Also, remember that very SOON Hollande wil be kicked out from Versailed and then the left wing european council will lose one of his strongest man. MARINE LE PEN is coming and i am pretty sure that she will also not let your distorted ideas become reality of give europe and european kids as a gift to illegal immigrants.

By the way, WHAT A AMAZING PAIR!!!

MARINE LE PEN AND DUDA!! + a prime minister from PiS (doesnt matter who, as long as they put Polish interest first, differently than PO)

Makes me have a bit of hope in humankind.

Polsyr
21 Jun 2015  #129

Dude you can present the worst of it or the best of it.

But to answer you with the same token; looks like we are already quite rich:

thenews.pl/1/5/Artykul/46565,Football-hooligans-do-battle-in-Krakow-suburb

Levi
21 Jun 2015  #130

Substitute 20000 football hooligans that just fight during their games for 2 million religious islamic hooligans that try to prozelytize your kids, send them to Syria or beat you just because you have a glass of beer or is buying pork.....

Doesnt sound as a good idea.

Polsyr
21 Jun 2015  #131

Levi the day you find your 2 million fanatics will never come, just like the day you know more Syrians than I do.

Wulkan
21 Jun 2015  #132

looks like we are already quite rich

I believe so but I'm a bit jealous about Sweden being "European capital of rape", I would be very proud if Poland had the honor of having this title. Any chance for this in the near future or not so much?

Gosc123456
21 Jun 2015  #133

@Levi; how can you say so much BS! How can you expect marine le pen (I don't use capitals on purpose) - by the way officially financed by putin) to make 50.01% at a French presidential election? Contrary to you I know France and I know it's impossible. The FN is only a protest party and nothing more. The FN has no program per se (to get out of EU, to return to Franc but HOW???? They NEVER say simply because they don't know) and their "economic program" is a lousy copy of the extreme left wing's party led by Jean-Luc Mélenchon. Please don't talk about what you don't know ;)

Please be aware that Poland as (no.1) EU funds recipient gets money ALSO from Turks in Germany, Pakistanis and Indians in UK, Algerians in France, Maroccans in the Netherlands, etc etc.(although most of them have been naturalized).. as they do pay tax .

Polsyr
21 Jun 2015  #134

European capital of rape

What does that have to do with asylum seekers?

Gosc123456
21 Jun 2015  #135

@Levi: as a "supporter" of marine le pen, I suppose you are in favor of extreme left economics ;). Although no concrete programs, the fn shares the economic view of France's extreme-left wing party, Front de Gauche

"lol"

Wulkan
21 Jun 2015  #136

Please be aware that Poland as (no.1) EU funds recipient gets money ALSO from Turks in Germany, Pakistanis and Indians in UK, Algerians in France, Maroccans in the Netherlands, etc etc.(although most of them have been naturalized).. as they do pay tax .

Thank you for bringing this to our attention I opened my eyes and my political views have changed by 180 degree right now :-)

Gosc123456
21 Jun 2015  #137

@Levi; 1. fn is not pro-Church and 2. top fn leaders (Florian Philippot, Steeve Briois, Sébastien Chenu ...are openly .... gay) so are you sure you like them???? ;)

Jerky Levi! :)

Wulkan
21 Jun 2015  #138

What does that have to do with asylum seekers?

Well, the refugees from the Asia and Africa worked very hard for a last several years for Sweden to get this title, I'm afraid that a couple of thousand refugees from Syria won't be enough to get even close to Sweden, not to mention that Poland is much bigger country.

Gosc123456
21 Jun 2015  #139

@Wulkan; whether you like it or not, it does not change reality. All those immigrants or rather of foreign origin living and working in western European countries do pay tax. Tax is what makes the EU's budget is therefore not hard to understand that those people also have contributed to Poland financing.

So please don't bite the hand feeding you!

Polsyr
21 Jun 2015  #140

the refugees from the Asia and Africa worked very hard for a last several years for Sweden to get this title

Unless you have a reliable source don't say things like this.

Gosc123456
21 Jun 2015  #141

@Wulkan: where do you think EU money given to Poland comes from? From Santa Claus?

Wulkan
21 Jun 2015  #142

So please don't bite the hand feeding you

Does average (including those on benefits) immigrant pay more tax than me? Not even close, so who is feeding whom? but let's not digress from the the subject of "Poland the capital of rape" in 2025 maybe? If our government works hard on it, it is achievable in my opinion. It would be awesome.

Unless you have a reliable source don't say things like this.

There are hundreds of them but looking at your attitude you will just say they are made up. You clearly do not support the idea of "Poland the new capital of rape". To achieve the goal we need a lot of immigration and we will get it no matter you want it or not.

From Santa Claus?

From tax payers?

Gosc123456
21 Jun 2015  #143

@Wulkan; most of what you guys in Poland call "immigrants" were born in Europe (their parents or even grand parents came) and believe me a lot of them are doctors, lawyers, university professors, even ... politicians and yes they pay a lot of tax (as based upon their earnings ;).

As to socalled immigrants, even when they work at minimum salary, they sure do pay more tax than the average Pole in Poland.

Wulkan
21 Jun 2015  #144

a lot of them are doctors, lawyers, university professors, even ... politicians

and even more native Europeans are "doctors, lawyers, university professors, even ... politicians" so what?

they sure do pay more tax than the average Pole in Poland.

But you don't get that I'm not an average Pole in Poland.

waste of time but no matter you like or not I'm sure we will get a lot of immigration to Poland soon, left wing is getting stronger and we will achieve my goal.

Gosc123456
21 Jun 2015  #145

@Wulkan: of course there are more doctors, university professors, lawyers, politicians of "European origin" since they make up around 98% of the population ;)

But since people who are immigrants or sons/grandsons of immigrants pay tax in Western Europe, they contribute to EU's funds paid to Poland...

You cannot change reality ;)

Wulkan
21 Jun 2015  #146

@Wulkan: of course there are more doctors, university professors, lawyers, politicians of "European origin" since they make up around 98% of the population ;)

I was talking about statistical proportion honey :-)

But since people who are immigrants or sons/grandsons of immigrants pay tax in Western Europe, they contribute to EU's funds paid to Poland...

Yes, you have already said that, everybody who pays tax contributes to that

You cannot change reality ;)

What's the point changing reality? :-)

Levi
21 Jun 2015  #147

"Please be aware that Poland as (no.1) EU funds recipient gets money ALSO from Turks in Germany, Pakistanis and Indians in UK,"

How Poland would get money from Pakistanis in UK if many of them dont produce nothing and live using government welfare?

dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2037998/UK-immigration-Polygamy-welfare-benefits-insidious-silence.html

Anyway, i am pretty sure that you will not even click at the link, and instead will just rant that the source is not reliable and BLABLABLA as you do everytime that numbers contradict your delusions.

Polsyr
21 Jun 2015  #148

Levi you didn't explain your paranoia about 2 million fanatics coming to Poland, together with you knowing more Syrians than I.

Marsupial
21 Jun 2015  #149

Well how many are going to usa after all its meddling there caused a lot of this trouble?

Levi
21 Jun 2015  #150

"Levi you didn't explain your paranoia about 2 million fanatics coming to Poland"

And you didnt explained the numbers that i posted that prove my points:

In General, illegal immigrants suck much more government welfare funded by native tax payers than they generate for society. (Not even talking about the spike on criminality caused by illegals)

By the way, you dont need to be a genious to realize where my number came from: 160 000 illegals came to europe in just 5 months this year. 32 thousand per month. In 5 years we have 2 million. According to PEW Research, 92% of the Pakistanis/Yemenis/etc are favourable to Sharia Law imposed even over christians. What means, for example, public beheadings or stonings. So yeah, those people are entering Europe.

Now that i see that you have extremist views against Christians, i actually start to believe that you probably know more syrians that i know. Also they were saying that some guys from Nusra Front escaped to Europe via Bulgaria. I just hope you are not one of them.


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