Poland under pressure of EU to accept more asylum seeking refugees

Yes they are, and it is upsetting. Most people on this forum are doing nothing other than slating the migrant situation, and I can understand why with the terrible events that have been happening, but very few people are mentioning the genuine refugees in all this. Are they just supposed to be forgotten about? It's hardly their fault that their country is a war zone is it?


Exactly so. I will try to find the article I read, although I don't think it mentioned how long ago these families left or where they went.

@Chemi: do realize that all these in PF who vomit their hatred towards REFUGEES and muslims more generally most often don't even live in the EU and never will ;).

However the current chaos is scary and not acceptable but what to do?

I was and am still for a small number of genuine refugees but I strongly refuse to take in uncontrolled scum...

I understand you are a very compassionate person but according to international law refugees are only treated as such in the first safe country they reach - and the first safe countries for Syrians are Turkey, Lebanon and Yordania - see the example of Palestinian refugee camps - they were never granted asylum in Europe - most of these people don't flee for their lives on their way to Europe - they want comfortable lives - are we supposed to give them comfortable lives?

" I don't think it mentioned how long ago these families left or where they went"

If they were Muslims they probably left for UK,France or Germany who a geared up to take in people of the Muslim faith, with established communities mosques and Halal food, Poland does not really have this scale of infrastructure in place for them and probably can't afford to.

On the other hand Yazdis and Christian refugees would not see Poland as too alien a country, they would probably be more able, fit in and integrate within the Polish culture.

Just my honest opinion.

@Dolno: even non muslim refugees won't want to live in Poland (climate, language, low salaries, no benefits and closed society) when they can have it so much better in the west ;). Even when refugees, people'd rather go to countries with better perspectives.

Even when refugees, people'd rather go to countries with better perspectives, I agree true very true,

Those people are from everywhere else but Persia.


That is a good thing no?

Yes, I think quite a few Americans get quite excited on the subject of refugees ;), but really it doesn't matter where these people posting bile and hatred come from, like everyone else they are scared of what the future for Europe holds because inevitably it is going to affect many countries, even the US. I don't blame people for being scared.

What I do find strange is that people here are ranting about the refugees coming to Poland when it's damn obvious they are not going to be staying in the country anyway! They will move on to Germany, UK etc.


I don't think anyone knows the answer to that one, certainly not me.


It's all academic now Gumishu, because Merkel has opened the floodgates.


I think they were actually Christian Syrians.

they were Syrian Christians - they were well taken care of including given jobs from the get go - it was a private foundation and the catholic church that organized their coming to Poland - still many thought they will be better off somewhere else (presumably Germany) - I don't blame them actually - Poland is not paradise on earth and the language is difficult

" ranting about the refugees coming to Poland when it's damn obvious they are not going to be staying in the country anyway! " True they do not want to be in Poland, there is nothing for anyone to worry about, they are not going to stay here anytime soon, just get the popcorn and watch the story unfold in the rest of Europe, don't panic.

These are the people I was talking about Gumishu, there are hardly any families left of the original ones who came to Poland.


I'm sure this would have had a major effect on the decision of many of them to leave and it's going to be exactly the same for the next wave of refugees arriving in Poland, many simply won't stay because life will be too hard for them there.

It is about German and their lackeys in the EU trying to force on an independent country some stupid quotas, those people don't want to came to Poland, some would rather go back to their own country. All that quota thingy is just all games and play more then anything else.

Will the pressure to accept migrants subside, once Merkel is admitted to hospital under the mental health laws.

Angela Merkel 'is showing signs of a mental breakdown' and 'narcissism' over her 'stubborn' refusal to reverse her migrant policy, warns celebrated German psychiatrist.

Source Daily Mail (Sorry libs)

> France today

Gunfight in Reugee Camp & Man arrested with two guns, koran and ammunition at Paris, Disneyland. Western Europe is embarrassing

The position of the overwhelming majority of Poles was not to have theses refugees come to Poland, perhaps the people had more common sense than their leaders on this matter. You don't knowingly import problems and if you do not share our values then sorry try elsewhere. The German media along with Swedish media have tried to cover horrible crimes to protect the politicians making these stupid decisions.

Very well said, and EU were criticizing changes in Polish media, Polish media would never hide stuff like this, the previous PO media would for sure.

ctvnews.ca/canada/600-refugees-crammed-into-toronto-hotel-despite-waiting-sponsors-1.2753568

No different here in Canada , despite overcrowded hotels , shelters the liberals keep on bringing refugees in , unbelievable .

According to Frontex, EU agency for "protecting European borders" ;), based in Warsaw, 60% of migrants are economic and not political refugees (not only from Syria but from other "difficult" countries). Of course everybody has known it since the very beginning but our "elites" have just found it out... Socalled "elites" have just found out that water is wet ....

Just read in Atlantico.fr

Had it been a bible it would have been all over the news, had it been a torah, it would not be reported at all, as it is, with a koran the mainstream media will make special efforts to not publicize it but a few non-mainstream sources will report it.

And.... that's why people are turning away from mainstream media, kind of like asking why no one is reading Trybuna Ludu when there are other options.

Cologne sex attacks: 'Safe zone' for women planned ahead of city's carnival

HAHAH. Why don't they just kick them out?!?

I'm not trying to make light of the situation if that's how it's come across, but if this were " German Forums ", I could perhaps understand the reaction from people a little better. In addition, so many complaining don't live/have never lived in Poland. I live in the UK, and there is far more chance that my country will end up with loads of migrants because once those in Germany have residency, they can move on to UK.

I couldn't find the original article I read about the Christian Syrians, but I found one from early November when half of the people had left Poland. They had gone to Germany.


I am sure this is part of it too but Poland isn't the only country in this situation. Besides, Poland is vetoing plans for migrant quotas now.

@Chemi: PO government has signed in for 7,000 (to start with) and the first 100 of them are due to arrive to Poland in late March 2016 (official). Poland being part of EU and also the no.1 EU's fund receipient of course shall obey..

Que the Western horror stories in the media: "Refugees shocked at the smell of sausage in neighborhoods"

They apparently don't realise how they stink up entrie neighbourhoods with their curry dishes and other foul-smelling slop!

Great post I encountered on a Liberal forum

"For example in case of Germany: they never had Middle East colonies, but they feel like they owe something to Arabs, due to generic "white guilt", but they actually murdered 6 million Poles and today progressive German press is full of open contempt towards Poland and Polish people, up to and including ethnic jokes.

By OECD Poland is actually a very nice country, very low crime, very high women equality, so why so vicious? And why so forgiving towards people who literally rape their women in the middle of the streets? So PC definitely affects political decision-making."

Or Algeria? Algerians chased the French out of their country but France found it could leave Algeria behind much more easily than it could leave behind Algerians who promptly began fleeing Algerian rule and following the French into France while maintaining their hostile entitled attitude vis a vis the French.

The 6 million corpses should constantly be thrown up to the Gerries whenever some lefty libretard starts spouting such nonsense: "You've resumed the Poland-bashing propaganda and derisive jokes, so when is the Heil Merkel Bundeswehr marching in so we can welcome them properly?!"

@Maf or the "exper"t of European and French affairs!!! "lol"! For your info, MOST (over 98%) Algerians in France are respectable citizens. I know that media ONLY talk about trouble makers and what is wrong so it is normal that people who have NO personal experience whatsoever with a place, with someone, do not see and do not know about majorities. There have been Algerians in France since the 19th century and a lot came in the 1950's to work in industries and also after Algeria's independence (I don't blame them not to want to live in their home country ;)) and needless to say, most of them have always behaved well and respected the French laws. How many Algerians have you, Maf, personally met? I suppose ZERO ;). I have met and interacted with probably thousands of them and NO problem (I am not one of them, do not look like them...). PS: my father has lived in Algeria so trust me, I am much more knowledgeable than you ;););

However, what's the Relationship with Middle-Eastern refugees/migrants to Poland???? ;

I point out again. Anti-racism is a religion (first noted, ironically if presciently, by P. D. James as far as I know). Religious beliefs are not amenable to logical analysis.

Cologne seems to have been a game changer, even more so than the Paris attacks, for everyone except Angela Merkel who is doggedly, inhumanly intent on creating as large an unassimilatable muslim underclass as she can manage for reasons of her own.

Political Correctness is a religion. The worst of all,because for political correctness Angela Merkel invited hordes of aggressive young muslim men to rape european woman, and even don't let the few european man that still behave like a man to react.

For political correctness, european woman are being abused, having their clothes ripped, their genitalia touched and their skin blazed with rapist semen in broad daylight at European streets.

And the main leaders of political correctness are Angela Merkel and Francois Hollande.