Poland under pressure of EU to accept more asylum seeking refugees

Well, they're illegals no more so to speak and anyhow they could have been deported anytime. Whereas illegal Africans, Asians, Arabs and what have you would be nothing but burden, trouble and some more trouble. Not to mention THEY are not interested in Poland or moving to Poland, putting them there against their will is pretty much not very progressive and liber isn't it? Well, consistency, brains and logic is not a strong suit of your commie comrades, that totalitarian streak push just to get their way is to be expected.

No difference at all.

Jon, would love to hear your opinion on these developments

- USA is practicing historical revisionism by tearing down monuments/statutes and adding/eliminating people from monetary pieces. Mostly because they were Confederates in the Civil War and/or owned slaves etc etc

What is stopping British-Americans from demanding the tearing down of George Washington? Do you not find it odd that a gigantic nation of Americas size and open acceptance (if not even celebration) of multiculturalism/parallel societies is not accepting of an area having it's own regional heritage I.E. New Orleans in this scenario?

I tried to find examples in Poland but it all involved pieces/buildings created by the Soviets, so different situation even if you want to argue the Confederates were attempting to also be a foreign nation.

Is this current fiasco ongoing in America (and across many American college campuses) not just another example of the pitfalls of multiculturalism and/or how leftist have no boundaries and/or respect for White peoples heritage/space? There is no guarantee such a cultural marxist circus wouldn't find itself in Polish borders eventually too.

Normality, since we like him and have statues of him too.

Your question has little or nothing to do with our issues or culture within Europe - it seems more about your local matters in America.

> Google: "england historical revisionism"

"From September, GCSE History students across the country will be taught that Africans arrived in Britain before the English, in a new course which draws heavily on the politically correct work of a Marxist academic. The course has been slammed as "indoctrination" by concerned historians and academics who warn it is "dangerous"."

Damn, the virus has already made its way across the Atlantic. I guarantee "Europeans" with Middle Eastern descent will also begin to publicly question European heroes that battled Islam for a century. They will be aided by the same wacko leftist that are increasingly trying to brainwash us into thinking the crusade attacks on Islamic land were any where near as prevalent as Islamic invasions on European soil. I recently had to illustrate diagrams to some of my family members to discredit this fallacy.

If you live in Poland then you are aware of Jewish attempts to spin Poland into a nation happily complying with the Nazis. If Warsaw (a media capital) was still heavily Jewish then this propaganda would also gain more steam.

First they will discredit your heritage. Then they will persuade you that you sinned/are in need of diversity. Then they will rejuice as your grandchildren are physically and culturally unrecognizable. By then (and its nearing in some Western nations) your civilization exists by merely name. Who knows eventually it might be edited to Englandstan because the previous name conjured up images of unhappy times for the "new Brits".

Nothing here about the refugee issue. It looks like you're just trying to go off topic to indulge your obsessions.

Right wing on steroids. There is a problem here of redundancy of the right wing. If the refugeees come they wont stay. Everybody knows. The very few that do will enrich poland because the only reason they stayed is because they made it work. It wasn't welfare, that's across the border to the west. That's one reason why poland doesn't even need a right wing, it's pointless. All that coupled with Polish being such an easy language to learn (ha ha) i do not see the need for right wing polish ultranatiolists to give us all a bad name. We don't need to be so racist to the refugees because their invasion of Poland has nil chance already. NIL.

"This absurd supposition of Africans inhabiting Britain before the English only goes to show how our once esteemed centres of learning, Oxford and Cambridge, have been insidiously eroded by a dangerous dogma that, very like Islamic State today, wrought misery and havoc in Russia, China and the Eastern bloc, where for all practical purposes it has failed."

How the mighty fall.

That is absolutely spot on. They just like to hate.

Absolutely spot on, and why I think this thread should be consigned to off-topic. This whole thread is just generating hate. The only new information which could possibly be added is if Poland is forced through sanctions to accept refugees, and as you said, they will not stay. Poland is a far less favourable option than other countries. The Estera Foundation brought Christian Syrian refugee families to Poland in 2015. Half immediately went to Germany, and the last I read about this, hardly any were left in Poland.

What are you babbling about? Fools like you are redundant.


No directly perhaps, but indirectly it is spot on. The same phenomena that caused recent refugee crisis and is driving it now downwards further toward insane, is the neo-Marxist ideology that reign across countries, nations and institutions. Giving way to bigotry, intolerance, hate, stupidity and persecution in any field of human activity it touches.

Rationalism, supported by empiricism and backed by logos is the way to go debating and solving issues.
Talking about refugees is too heavily infused by ideology - dumb commie dogmas.
The fact of the matter is most people falling for that evil crap are just too stupid to comprehend what they do, they're told that by following this trend like a steeply and by hate those who doesn't share their opinions - they are better and virtuous. Lies told by the evil men to dumbasses.

Love to see those leftards Marsupial, jon and Chemikiem crying rivers of tears. So helpless. So meaningless. So desperate to become alikes of those Islamists in France or UK that try to change those countries into crap that suits them. You'll never achieve that loonies. Poland is for Poles. Poles are patriotic and 90% don't want terrorists here. It will never happen EVEN if PO miraculously comes to power simply because Poles are smart and learn on mistakes of others regardless of what party they support.

ROFL

Sorry, the 1 million+ Ukrainians in Poland beg to differ.

Combined with the huge influx of "students" from India and other third world countries, it'll soon be Poland for the foreigners.

LOL. 1st class naivety. Poland is tolerant to foreigners but if Poland's sovereignity or any Pole will be at danger because of foreigners you'll be one of the very first to run for your life.

Hehe

No 'neo' about it. His assessment of the march of history remains spot on.


The world's getting smaller. That can't be changed.

Remind us how successful you were last time round, eh? Poland doesn't have a great track record when it comes to dealing with foreigners.

I'll be more than happy if it's enough to just get rid of the leftists.

Indeed. It's a paradox that those who obsess most on English language fora about refugees and migration into Poland rarely live here themselves and threaten those who do from a distance that's safe for them. Here in Warsaw you just don't see that level of hatred, and when it occurs (e.g. the vandalism to Kafe Brunet) the local people rally around the migrant rather than the aggressor.

You don't see the hate because u r always among your homo friends (Polish and foreigner) whom are feeling the same liberal way. Only blacks call temselves *******.

Same in Poznań. I find it quite interesting to watch how these people try and portray Poland as something that it isn't.

Locals in Poland are supportive of migrants, and in small towns, you'll often find that people are very welcoming.

Now you and I both know that the above is not true.

I am curious how would look like Polexit. I mean, would EU try to cripple and segment Poland, when Polexit occur

Poland outside the EU would look something like Serbia - a shaky democracy, no infrastructure, impossible to do business, corrupt and dominated by family cliques. Probably quite good nightlife though

ha, ha, ha. Good joke. But you are wrong. Honestly.

In the meanwhile, EU continuing to punishing Poland >>>

youtube.com/watch?v=Vt2WwZtNx7M

At the very least whoever visits Belgrade can feel safe & rest assured he cannot expect to be mowed down by a Muslim terrorist fanatic driving a truck into scores of people as happened in Nice, Berlin, London...

i.imgur.com/bXNd8SJ.jpg

wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Nice_attack

wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Berlin_attack

wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Westminster_attack

Where there have been incidents by racist nutters, the rest of the local people always rally round and help the person who the nutcase tried to harm. Thee have been a couple of cases like that recently. Generally people here in Warsaw are quite open to people from different parts of the world who settle here. It's just a few crazies who don't get out much that make the problems.


Providing they aren't taken to a camp and raped or murdered, as the 'brave' Serbian army scum have done to so many people. And it took people from other countries to bring them to justice and jail them.

What "humanitarian refugee issue" would you be referring to Jon357 ?

What is your definition of a "refugee" as compared to a "migrant" ?

The world and his dog know that the majority of people entering Europe from the Africa are not refugees-they are people escaping the poverty of their country for the hope of a better life


I think that applies to most countries to be fair. I like to think that people are intrinsically good. However, it's a different ball game when one foreigner gets attacked by a Polish thug as opposed to Poles having to adapt to sections of Polish towns and cities being "taken over" by foreign communities that do not share the same culture as Poles.

Migrants from where? It's rather obvious that those migrants in Poland who spend most of their time each and every day posting drivel on internet message boards have been effectively shunned by the locals.


Is the KLA still abducting, torturing and murdering Serbs for their organs to sell on the black market? I thought they disbanded. But since the EU and UN have no interest in pursuing genuinely savage crimes against humanity when committed by your Muslim brethren they obviously would have no incentive to stop now would they?

This is pure anti-Serbian propaganda, made up lies and deceptions that were prevalent during the 1990's in Western media used to dehumanize a whole nation in order to cover up and justify their crimes in murdering innocent civilians during criminal NATO aggression against a sovereign state. Serbs were portrayed as the new Nazi's and President Milosevic as the new Hitler.

Even drugged out walking corpses such as Angelina Jolie were used for this purpose in a relentless Hollywood war propaganda.

youtube.com/watch?v=yf2YPn5pajQ
youtube.com/watch?v=RG_h36rrc0k

The Serbs responded to Angelina with an insulting graffiti in Banja Luka:



"Nisu Srbi krivi što je u Breda Pita mala kita!"
"It's not the Serbs fault Brad Pitt has a small one!" ;-)

LOL