Poland under pressure of EU to accept more asylum seeking refugees

@Polonius, I was merely posting an addendum to cms' observation regarding Polish-speaking communities throughout the United States, to which I happened to remark that in my experience, the Poles (like the Russians, Ukrainians along with many other Europeans) are skilled in a certain type of under the table dealing which allows a large number to typically get jobs such as building super, handyman, bank teller etc.. having often poor English skills. As they know how to "smooth the way", as with our President, they can get by quite nicely without knowing too much about their chosen career:-)

That's all I'm saying, nothing to do with comparing anybody with ISIS-terrorists or some such rot! You're a native English speaker and I see you didn't understand my post eitherLOL

@NoToForeigners,

I cannot send you my translation until you unblock me from your list of "banned members".

Having a US passport is tantamount to holding US citizenship. You did mention civil service, and it's highly doubtly if someone speaking little or no English can aspire to such a post. I reckon I only cursorily breezed through your post and jumped to the conclusion that you were comparing today's benefit-seeking Muslim migrants to our proud and industrious Polonia. I'm just too fed up with those asking why Polona opposes migration when they themselves were once immigrants.

After Poland and Hungary UK becomes de 3rd European country 2 finally see dat EU Elites are dictators and dun care about and try to manipulate sovereign countries.

independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/theresa-may-general-election-brexit-eu-countries-influence-uk-with-leaks-a7715851.html

Yes, Juncker will probably have a leaflet drop over the UK soon, he will have learnt some good tactical propaganda from his dear father in law.

Heil Juncker !!

Hopefully. It would work here in Poland too, though here the EU has extremely strong support.

Haste amkes waste. That'll teach me not to cafrdefully read a psot beforeanswering it. You may be right abotut oday's Polish immurgants. I was mainly describing the general Polonian experience in America up till the late 20th century. That's where I've got hands-on experience and years of study and observation.

Crucially, from both people in the city and in the country. Farmers in particular are never going to agree to the loss of the generous CAP funds.

Very much so, the EU has to make up the cash shortfall post Brexit and keep the money flowing into Poland.

Indeed. Brexit might just be a hammer blow to Poland's hopes for the next budget round.

It's quite easy to see that if the UK simply refuses to pay, the next budget negotiations are doomed to be a miserable failure for PiS.

Germany then must make up any shortfall, after all they were let off lightly after the war and benefited from the marshal plan, a bargain compared to the war reparations that they should have paid to Poland after their last atempt at ruling Europe

Attempt at ruling Europe !! They do rule Europe !!
Disgraceful and ironic.

A dangerous game, because if Germany starts auditing the spending of the funding, Poland might have severe problems with scandal after scandal emerging.

The UK was nice to work with because they didn't ask too many questions (as long as people didn't ask questions about the City). Germany is unlikely to be so tolerant of such abuses.

What you mean they might invaid Again!, but after instigating two world wars I guess it won't be much of a surprise.

But nothing much will happen to Poland regarding funds or asylum seekers until the Brexit battle is over, after all it is stupid to open up wars on two fronts, ahh erm but come to think of it they have made that mistake in the past.

@dolnoslask

Not sure they were let off lightly - every town was obliterated, industry wiped out, mass rapes by Russians and 40 years of occupation plus restrictions on the military that still apply.

They did pay reparations - but the Polish govt let them off in the 50s.

What would have been gained by making them pay punitive reparations ?

No need to invade. A simple audit is much more effective, and the resulting scandals will chop down any government.

Serves them right, save your sympathy for the six million Jews who mere tortured raped and murdered in purpose built extemination camps, think of the hundreds of thousands from nations across the globe who losts their lives until Germanys pursuit of Empire was finaly extinguished.

"What would have been gained by making them pay punitive reparations ?"

Rebuilding and replacing what they destroyed in Poland while in pusuit of wealth and fortune at any cost.

But it won't chop down a nation of patriots, their frustration will continue regardless of the political party in charge in Poland, just wait and see.

For which the surviving leaders were put on trial and in many cases executed.

Poland's backwardness after the war was all down to the Soviets - other devastated countries that were allowed democracy prospered and rebuilt their industrial capacity themselves - Korea, Japan, Austria being perfect examples.

I would beg to differ it was all down to Germanys invasion and their pact with Russia to divide the spoils between them, beware Germany will choose the bed fellows that suits her goals and ambitions, woe betide those who disagree, let us sit back break out the popcorn and watch Brexit unfold , there maybe some lessons for Poland and other EU nations who dare to kick back or disagree with the EU reich.

@dolnoslask
To be fair, the Soviet Union carried whole factories back and reassembled them in Russia. They also tightly controlled the type of industries that could or couldn't operate in Poland.

Not sure how this fits in with people seeking reduge and asylum here in Poland, except very tangentially. The collapse of heavy industry in Russia and the consequent destruction of the mining industry there has led to mass unemployment in Ukraine and consequent migration to Poland.

A very bad thing

" mass unemployment in Ukraine and consequent migration to Poland."

Very good that they have chosen Poland to migrate to.

EU is so crazy that I wouldn`t be surprised if EU ask and offer incentives to Ukraine to accept Muslim migrants. I can imagine banderists fights side by side with mujaheedines. It would be Nazi-Islam on highest scale.

It's the nearest place - most are quite desperate.

EU don`t like Poland, but God compensate with lavish blessings on Poland. Poles are just so lucky.

Poland's not crazy about [THE] EU either, Crow, so the feeling's mutual, I'm sure:-)

But they are. The latest results show 71% in favour.

You seemingly don't understand what that means. Although in case of PF's usual troupe you're right. Siding with soviets against Poland's best interest, values and traditions.

If France and Germany are trying to bluff their way to subjugate Poland they might be for a surprise and Poland out of the EU. If they trying to get rid of eastern European EU countries they are doing a good job pushing them out.

As I said Poland will be better without EU.


The younger generation is mostly against it. 71% is too high a number, I would say maybe 60% and dropping. That'll drop even further after EU will try to influence Poland and force government of the their choosing or some such.

Stats can change, and do, with dramatic regularity, as we can see here on a daily basis! Maybe the reason Szydlo and PM May looked so chummy last week or so for a photo op on the occasion of a state meeting with the British press is that they see eye to eye a damned sight more clearly than with Ms. Merkel!!!

These stats have so far been consistent. People here like the EU.


They have to. They're politicians of similar outlook in friendly countries.

Merkel and Trump then were the living exception to that rule:-) OK, I'll have to re-examine Poland's stance towards, Bruxelles.
Thanks for straightening me out, jon!