Poland - Serbia etc. thread

Ridiculous on all counts! Boedica wasn't even English:-)

Tomorrow, I will submit my DNA for testing. I am willing to bet that I am partially a Serb and responsible for WW1.

True. Boedica was Slavic or to say Sarmatian, that is one and same. English are so stupid that even don`t know their own history. Poor nasty lost souls. And Slavic woman are wise. Polish especially sophisticated when choose. Now how could Polish woman choose a moron. Only by some tragic mistake or drank and so, while she have sax with English she dream of decent Slavic jumping.

Bull crap, Crow!!

She was a Celt and you know it. You're on your "The Whole World is Really Slavic" binge once again:-)

This is basically just a comedic or useless propaganda thread. A thread to laugh at, with all the stupid gibberish he spews out. Nobody in there right mind would take his many highly disputable, grandiose and fictitious stories seriously. The funniest was when he admitted to hearing voices in his head....lol Remember, " Son of Sam"? His dog would talk to him before he would go out on his killing sprees. UWAGA!

And who were Celts? Sarmatians, of course. = Slavs.


Only consultations. But conclusions are mine.

Shiftars (Albanians), joined with their Muslim Arab brethren, attacked Nobel praise winner Austrian Peter Handke because of Handke`s firm support to Serbia and Serbs. Handke answered them: «Go to hell, where you already are». On the other side, Serbs are satisfied that somebody who broke informative blockade around Serbs was finally rewarded. To Serbs Handke said: «Today I drink rakija and white vine. Glad to me you aren`t happy only for Novak Djokovic.»

Making up things as always.... .

Handke was not criticized for his support of Serbia or the Serbs. He was criticized for his support of Serbian war criminals and the genocide denial, that is a key difference.

So what is the difference again?

Serbs and Serbia today are not synonymous with Milosevic and Srebenica. You can be supportive of the Serbian people and aid them in their mission to rejoin the European civilized countries, while condemning their past crimes. In fact by his actions he does more harm to the Serbs than good.

You mean Divide and Impera?
I don't know about Handke but I think I will be not far off the mark if I say he point out that Serbia has been cased in the role of a bad guy while there were others in the picture equally bad. Those nameless others came out of that bad war smelling off roses leaving Serbia in manure.

I wouldn't have called such a take - a defence of war criminals. I'm aware it goes against an 'official' narrative in Germany and the world.

Which is exactly the same thing where in the popular view prevalent in the West, Gavrilo Princip is held responsible for the outbreak of the First World War. Then, when you read into the subject only a little bit, it quickly becomes clear that if you were to point out to a single person mostly responsible for it, you would certainly point out to Kaiser Wilhelm II of Germany.

Unfortunately, the broad public and all the intellectuals blaming Gavrilo Princip so readily do not read history books on WW I.

Everybody knows that the assassination did not make the war inevitable, but was seen as a good opportunity to start a war under the right circumstances. Gavrilo was nothing more than a vile murderer who got exploited by others. If he had lived today, he would have blown himself up at a market square.


Then read up what he said and you will see that I am right.


Serbia is clearly the country is mostly to blame. They could have accepted the break-up of Yugoslavia and the war would not have happened. Instead Milosevic decided to fight against it, and the rest is history.


Yet that is precisely what happened. He specifically defended Serbian war criminals and denied that Srebenica happened.

Considering that his "Greater Serbia" plans were a main reason the other republics wanted out....

Not at all.

Are you aware that at the moment Peter Handke represent probably biggest writer and spirit of Germanic speaking area? Are you aware of it?

What Peter Handke defend is not Serbia. Handke defend soul of humankind. The truth. He knows that Serbs didn`t start the war. He knows that foreign powers instrumentalized and manipulated local Croat ustashe movement (aka banderists), local Nazi-Muslims in Bosnia and Shiftar mafia-Muslims on Kosovo. Handke knows that it was deal, payment to them and coordination with them against Serbians who stood defiantly. Handke knows that NATO officially transported worse Arab mujaheedines into region. He knows that Serbia/Milosevic tried diplomatic solution but that Germany and Vatican cut dialogue by prematurely recognition of separatists. He knows that Vatican and western Europe have project of creation of all set of new nations out of ethnic Serbs, just to destroy Serbs and to more easily finish with Slavic South and control segmented region. Handke knows that are Serbs victims of prolonged enormous genocide. Handke knows that are Serbs last to be blamed for Srebrenica and that right now only God knows what happened in Srebrenica considering all active secret services there back in time. He knows, all was a lie and all was propaganda movie designed to demonize Serbs. He see money flow and net of interests.

After all, he surely knows that Serbians also committed some crimes but how could he blame Serbs when he knows truth. It would be same as to say that Poland`s resistance movement committed crimes against Nazi Germany.

So, Peter Handke washing his hands and telling to Serbs - ``I Peter Handke, I am true son of my civilization. They aren`t. They, those who harmed you didn`t speak in my name. They harmed me, too, same as they harmed you. Me and my children, we don`t want to profit on misery they done to you in our names. What I can, I alone, I will correct. I will stand with you.``

Well, good writers are not necessarily good political commentators, and certainly no historians. I loved reading Günter Grass, but he used to say a lot of nonsense in his later life.


Yeah, Hitler also tried a diplomatic solution with Poland before attacking them too.

Na ja...Da scheiden sich die Geister (Translation???:)

Poltergeister?

Serbegeister?
Crowbegeister?

Heh:)

So you have more trustworthy sources then Peter Handke? Handke is naive and weak minded man, in your opinion? You know better? You got info from CNN, BBC and Deutsche Welle?

Then what about Canadian General Lewis MacKenzie, a decent Scottish? He was there, on terrain. He sow





General Lewis MacKenzie >>> "They expected me to agree, I didn't: FRY bombing and recognizing Kosovo - a mistake"

Spot this. Look how Saxons speak when no totalitarian regime in Germany. Not that Germany is free now but regime don`t work openly against populace.

German MPs proud of 13 withdrawn recognitions of Kosovo's independence




Hold ground brate. Europe would be one Empire one day. No unity in a lie.

Only in Sarmatia we shall unite as free!

"Da scheiden sich die Geister" Context please, B.B.?

Roughly, "And this is where the spirits go their separate ways."
Cf. "Da trennen sich die Wege" = This is where we part company. [Said perhaps when two people walking and chatting together let the other
know they are going off, ne're to see one another again, or simply leaving until the next encounter...if there is one.]

Yes that sounds about right...

Handtkes nobel prize win has been criticized by many pundits.

Just look where those who speak bad against Serbs, against Handke, leads EU and complete Europe. Only that you need to look. When think like that, you would more then understand Serbian and Handke`s defiance to them.

Handtke was the first "serious" German-language writer I ever read in second-semester college German!
Didn't he write "Die Angst des Torwarts beim Elfmeter" (The Goalie's Anxiety at the penalty box)?

He plays with language a lot, though not nearly as much as Ernst Jandl:-)

You studied language of Germans? Why that servitude attitude in Jews on Germans? Its like when barfly fly on candle.

I practically grew up with the language.

"Why this servile attitude of Jews towards Germans? They're like a fly in the ointment." (My "re-translation" into EnglishLOL)
To answer your most astute question, Jews wanted desperately, post-Enlightenment of course, to assimilate into German society! After all, it was mostly in Germany that the Jews felt themselves basically at home, both culturally as well as linguistically.

They felt themselves as German as any of their Christian neighbors.

Yet, the lingering anti-Semitism, especially during the mid-19th century, particularly from the likes of Stoecker, Alhwarth, Houston Stewart Chamberlain, Meister Eckhart and others, began to fuel what would later become Hitler's bête noir, the Achilles' Heel of the Germans; their intense distrust, even hostility bordering on irrational hatred, of all non-European foreigners. The advent of Christianity, the Enlightenment failed the Germans, and when the chips were down, the Nazis ever so skillfully played on that weakness....and the rest is history.

Learning another language has nothing to do with "servitude"!

You learned english...which is essentially a germanic language...;)


Germany is an even less christian country now and yet another holocaust or WWIII is absolutely unthinkable...

"You (barely) learned English...which is essentially a Germanic language."

Right on, B.B. English according to Crow, the World according to Garp etc.. Correction. He never really learned it, he's still struggling.

The difference though between former times in the distant past and the present FRG, is only that today's
Germans are a far savvier bunch with regard to international law than was the case eighty-
odd years ago:-) Germany is looking for her place in the WORLD rather than merely her "place in the sun"!