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Miloslaw
10 Jun 2020  #1621

I am curious what would Serbia with recreated Tesla`s tower

I don't know what those senseless words mean but you need to face up to this fact Crow.
Serbia does not matter......that is why you spend so much time on here trying, and failing, to raise Slav unity.
Because you know that is true...Serbia is nothing without fellow Slavs supporting you.
All you have is the bastard Russians..... the other Slavs ignore you.....poor old Serbia....Hey!
You could become a part of Russia....enjoy....

Lazarus
10 Jun 2020  #1622

All you have is the bastard Russians

Not true! Serbs have Russians 100% behind them, for every second it is 100% good for Russia to be behind Serbs. In other situations, the Russians are supporting the Serbs like the Dutch were supporting the Bosniaks at Srebrenica.

Crow
11 Jun 2020  #1623

@Miloslaw

You silly one. Thank God Serbs have influence on Russia. We are only Slavs loved in a same time by Russians, Poles and all other Slavs. We are smart, nice, tall and robust and woman of our Slavic kind especialy love us, while our brorhers especialy respect our nerves. But you know this all, dont you dear.

delphiandomine
15 Jun 2020  #1624

Moved from

Let us reset our relationship and finaly coexist as friends.

Absolutely, let's do it. I like Serbs - they're insane in their own way, but I can't say I've ever met an unfriendly Serb.

Crow
15 Jun 2020  #1625

There is no need for hate. We should start think of each others as of people, as of humans, not on the base of some opinions and prejudices. Did we all forgot to be human. Is that weakness to give chance?

Ironside
16 Jun 2020  #1626

Not to say what Vatican

What Vatican? What are you talking about? You have this nonsense idea about Vatican that is simply baffling. You are ignorant that is all there is.

Serbs

Serbs are Serbs but there is Crow.

Crow
16 Jun 2020  #1627

What nonsense idea?

Vatican is behind most bestial genocide on million Orthodox Serbs during WWII, in the Independent state of Croatia. Plus, Vatican betrayed Catholic Serbs and helped in their Croatization, all for the sake of regional Germanization. Just go google topics.

I know, its confusing to you because among the first Nazi victims in Poland was Catholic clergy. Its because in Poland, it was patriotic clergy, bearer of national ethnic unity. In Croatia, the Catholic clergy serve as a tool for Germanization and spreading Vatican`t influence/subjugation on ``heretics``. It was always that way.

The Vatican's Complicity in Genocide in Fascist Croatia: The Suppressed Chapter of Holocaust History
>>> churchandstate.org.uk/2016/08/what-is-the-vatican-hiding/

Croatian Catholic clergy meet secretly in the years prior to 1941 with Italian fascist agents to help prepare for the final destruction of Yugoslavia, ...

Urged on by the Catholic clergy, .... deserted to the Nazi-Ustasha.... U.S. intelligence report ...., 1943 ......... " bloody hands of the Catholic clergy

The Role of the Roman Catholic Church in the Genocide of Serbs ...
>>> orthochristian.com/114594.html

Even in our time Vatican never apologized for crimes, never repented, never kneeled, never stooped. Still helping in denial. There are signs of positive changes but, still nothing obvious. It means the Vatican is in war with Serbs. We would see how that ends. We know how ended every Empire that wared with Serbs.

delphiandomine
16 Jun 2020  #1628

Just go google topics

Yes, it was absolutely awful. Some of the stories of Croatian brutality towards Serbian civilians are beyond belief, including what happened at Stara Gradiška. I feel sick to the bottom of my stomach when I think about how the Vatican turned a blind eye to the horrors that were going on there.

dolnoslask
16 Jun 2020  #1629

Even in our time Vatican never apologized for crimes, never repented, never kneeled, never stooped.

I am glad you are here to put light on some of the horrors which as a norm are hidden and covered up .

Well done brat Crow.

Miloslaw
16 Jun 2020  #1630

Crow is a troll....... and you don't see it,..... more poor judgment on your part......

Lazarus
16 Jun 2020  #1631

Croatian brutality towards Serbian civilians

An eye for an eye until the world is blind?

Ironside
17 Jun 2020  #1632

the Vatican turned a blind eye

Son you too? What the f; is wrong with you all? What the hell is Vatican you talk about? Some overall-ruler? WTF?

Vatican is behind most bestial genocide

You're a cretin.

Crow
17 Jun 2020  #1633

Business

Vorwerk & Sohn Group invest in Serbia

Vucic: Porsche made in Cacak PHOTO / VIDEO
b92/eng/news/business.php?yyyy=2020&mm=06&dd=16&nav_id=108702

The factory, which covers 40.000 square meters, will produce parts for the auto industry, and about 1.000 workers

Auto parts for Audi, Daimler-Chrysler, Volkswagen, Bentley, Ford and BMW made of plastic, rubber and metal will be exported from this factory

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seenews.com/news/germanys-vorwerk-to-open-serbian-factory-on-march-25-report-686272

Crow
17 Jun 2020  #1634

You're a cretin.

Me cretin? Why? Because I entered in your zone of comfort, in your delusions and fictions?

Look around you, man. Don`t you see how former colonial and slave powers facing truth. And what you think where originate power of Rome? Power of state of Vatican? In it. In evil done to others. You think Vatican won`t pay? It will. What I doing here by speaking truth is to tell and underline that Poland isn`t part of it. Separate Catholicism from Vatican. I look things that way and I founded my peace. And it is truth. Catholicism, same as Orthodoxy is victim of Rome and Vatican. And of Constantinople, when we are at it. They all manipulate.

BDW, first slaves in Europe were Slavs, Whites, not Blacks. Your, YOUR and MINE Slavic (ie Sarmatian) ancestors. Greeks and Romans made them slaves.

And what was sin of OUR ancestors when Romans come? Nothing. They were innocent in the eyes of every God in the universe. But they had to learn to whom they must pay for protection. For ``protection``. Do you understand now?

Crow is a troll....... and you don't see it,..... more poor judgment on your part......

Patriarch of Constantinople and Pope of Rome are trolls. Every one of them in long leeching line. Literately.

What the hell is Vatican you talk about? Some overall-ruler? WTF?

It was ruler. Global mastermind and profit maker. Global power. But not anymore.

And that is good news for Poland. Non ever harmed Poland as Vatican did it.

Ironside
19 Jun 2020  #1635

Why?

Because you are spewing nonsense. Mixing stuff up randomly so it fits your biased narrative otherwise called a total BS.

Crow
19 Jun 2020  #1636

Elaborate please. Give example of a total BS.

Crow
20 Jun 2020  #1637

Did you people notice that Germans makes mistakes that unite USA and Russia against them. I didn't think they are that stupid.

Bratwurst Boy
20 Jun 2020  #1638

@Crow

What do you mean?

AntV
20 Jun 2020  #1639

@Crow

Yeah, what do you mean? It's beyond a stretch to say the US and Russia are united for or against anything.

Crow
20 Jun 2020  #1640

Germany is in conflict on Balkan strategy with both, USA and Russia.

Bratwurst Boy
20 Jun 2020  #1641

How so?

Crow
20 Jun 2020  #1642

You can google that and a lot of is heard on TV. But let me shorten story to you, especially because I am your only chance to get complete insight, considering functioning of mass media where you live.

Russia won`t turn back to Serbia on province of Kosovo and Metohija (Albanians call it Kosova). In the meanwhile Trump`s USA administration gave up from politics of pressure on Serbia and seek solution in compromise on province. Now, London agreement after WWI is mentioned by which Serbia had option to get access to Adriatic sea via what is now Northern Albania. London agr. is mentioned because Albania wants to merge with Kosovo (and vice versa) and form Greater Albania (they already removed border between them). Idea of compromise to Serbs is to keep part of Northern Kosovo (minimum) where live ethnic Serbs and to preserve entire Metohija (original throne region of Serbian Patriarch, holly land) region what is basically property of Serbian Orthodox Church for 800 years already. Then, via Metohija Serbia preserve connection to Northern Albania (where is Alabanized Serbian populace) and gets access to the Adriatic sea. Russian Patriarch himself already said how is impassible for any non-Serbs to hold the region. So, Russia declared it will support that what is compromise to Serbs.

But Germany is against it. Firmly. Complete idea of destroying Yugoslavia (and exterminate as much as possible Serbs during WWII and in this last Civil War) for Germany was to weaken Serbs and push them from warm waters, so Germany can form line of loyal satellite states (Slovenia, Greater Croatia, Greater Albania, Bosnia-Herzegovina, Montenegro, Macedonia, Bulgaria) all to the Turkey as Bismarck ``Father of German nation`` himself suggested (no matter that as a Serbian himself mourned on Serbia; how pathetic and treacherous from him).

All in all, as you see, Trump`s (USA) idea to push for honest and long term solution for the region, to normalize volatile Balkan with compromise, entirely endanger German strategic, greedy and selfish plans for the region. Then, Russian Lavrov visited Serbia yesterday and reiterated Russian support once more while in talk to Serbian President mentioned hostile German politics and pressure.

Furthermore, Germany is in conflict with USA and Russia over Serbian question also in Bosnia-Herzegovina, Montenegro and Croatia. By London agreement, half of what is not Croatia`s Adriatic coast belong to Serbia. Considering Croatia is unstable rogue state, where rule apartheid, Nazism and most extreme clerical Catholicism, USA and Russia agreed to finally compensate Serbia for losses due to Vatican`s-German genocide on Orthodox Serbs and assimilation/Croatization of Catholic Serbs in what is now Croatia. By all signals Pope Francis tend to support London agr. on behalf of Serbs.

Add to it that London agr. opening space for Italy and Hungary to compete for rest of what is now Croatia`s Adriatic coast and you would finally understand why Hungary and Italy hurry to have as best as possible ties with Serbia (and to close open questions with Serbs). But, its only option for Italy and Hungary because how things develop, populace of Dalmatia (Adriatic coast in Croatia) incline to Serbia, while only some regions of Northern parts of Croatia seek to merge with Hungary and others with Serbia. Not to speak that Romania entertaining both, Hungary and Serbia, so these two countries already signed especial military agreements. Orban also pushing for Serbia in Visegrad and Serbia also tend to it, while Russia accepting it. Understand now why Orban already publish map of Greater Hungary.

Historically, Russia always respected any Serbian deal with Central Europe (with Poland and Czeska) and never interfered. Serbia was always (!) point where Poland`s and Russia`s ego-strategy coexisted in perfect balance (Russia satisfied to influence region enough to prevent hostility on Russia and Poland satisfied to influence main transport routes in the region). There is the reasons why Poland, Hungary and rest of Visegrad allowing Serbian import of most heavy (S-400 included) Russia`s armament via Visegrad air space.

This all strengthening Serbs and Germany facing complete disaster of its plans for the region. USA and Russia see in it as a way to contain Germany. It is also all in absolute interest of Poland because if Serbs don`t control region, Germany controls it. If Serbs are strong, Poland gets warm waters. Russia gets our neutrality (and with it neutrality of Visegrad) and also economical bonus from our warm waters (already using regions for its energy transport lines).

Territorial expansion of Serbia after WWI, as proposed by Entente powers to Serbia - Serbia gets Adriatic via Crna Gora, parts of what is now Croatia and parts of what is now Albania - now when Yugoslavia don`t exist idea is renewed - expansion is solely on Serbian ethnic areas

New Serbia is pre-text to united Central Europe. Its about to be decided on Serbian question.

Bratwurst Boy
20 Jun 2020  #1643

You can google that and a lot of is heard on TV

No, I actually can't...that's why I have been asking you.

Nobody in Germany or the US is talking/discussing/fighting over Serbia right now, with so many other, more pressing problems....dunno about Russia though...

The only "plan" for Serbia I know of is the EU membership accession plan since 2011 (with a possible full membership in 2025), including 2,9 Billion developmental help aid and a solution to all still lingering territorial conflicts at the end of it.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accession_of_Serbia_to_the_European_Union

If you mean that with a "german Balkan strategy" then that is it....I don't know if the US are dead against it, but Russia would surely hate to lose a loyal vasall to the EU...

Crow
21 Jun 2020  #1644

No, I actually can't...that's why I have been asking you.

Here you can see where the land exchange was mentioned on Twitter.

nova.rs/politika/jadni-grenel-kramon-napala-americkog-izaslanika/

Also, here >

US and EU Policy on Kosovo Is in Disarray
exit.al/en/2020/06/19/us-and-eu-policy-on-kosovo-is-in-disarray/

rift between the US and the EU is bad news for Kosovo itself.

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Nobody in Germany or the US is talking/discussing/fighting over Serbia right now

US and Germany have different approach. It will lead in conflict.

Crow
21 Jun 2020  #1645

I just voted on parliamentarian and local elections in Serbia, on poling place no.100, Novi Sad.

Don't ask, I won't tell you what were my choices.

mafketis
21 Jun 2020  #1646

Don't ask

Stop playing hard to get.... who'd you vote for?

(My guess would be Partia Demokratike e Kosovës)

Crow
21 Jun 2020  #1647

But of course, I will tell you. Just ask. I voted for SNS, Srpska Napredna Stranka. I am not a member, not even a supporter but, they have clear economic results and I have this one life, so the choice was easy.

Crow
23 Jun 2020  #1648

At this moment Serbian President Vucic travel in Russia to meet with Putin. Then at 27th June he travel to USA to talk to Trump. Then soon after he talk to Chinese Xi.

Serbia mediate between global powers and try to profit itself. Very risky game.

Crow
24 Jun 2020  #1649

Serbian guard unit `Blue Guard of Slavia` march on Victory day parade in Moscow 2020 > MUST SEE > Serbs march in Prussian parade march step >>>

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Gardisti Vojske Srbije na Paradi pobede u Moskvi

youtu.be/qVJlcuJ9AZ0

Vučić i srpski gardisti u Moskvi

youtu.be/ZxB-Y6pTSVo

NOTE: Serbian royal army adopted Prussian army step back in 1912 year, on a suggestion of General Paulus Sturm (Pavle Jurisic Sturm) Lusatian Serb who was commander of Serbian Royal 3rd army in Balkan wars against Turks and later in WWI against A-H Empire.

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General Paulus Sturm (Pavle Jurisic Sturm) Lusatian Serb who was commander of Serbian Royal 3rd army

>>> en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pavle_Juri%C5%A1i%C4%87_%C5%A0turm

Crow
26 Jun 2020  #1650

After talks to Putin, first EU politician mention by Serbian President is Tusk. He said, he needs to talk to Tusk. Today we heard that before trip to USA, Serbian President talks to German Ursula of EK. Talks and who knows what are ongoing.

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Ursula love Serbs


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