Poland - Serbia etc. thread

The answer is simple. No, it won`t.

Poland just solved her problems with energy.

Hungary: Gas interconnection with Serbia will deliver gas at the end of next year
serbia-energy.eu/hungary-gas-interconnection-with-serbia-will-deliver-gas-at-the-end-of-next-year/


And Serbia have a deal with Russia, that can on its own, without limit, sell gas to any third side.

Serbia ready to sacrifice EU membership over Kosovo deal
euractiv.com/section/enlargement/news/serbia-ready-to-sacrifice-eu-membership-over-kosovo-deal/

Interesting, so he has basically said that Serbia is ready to recognize Kosovo, as long as it gets something in return. Serbia is no longer refusing on principle, this is a big step for them on their road to redemption.

@Crow

Serbia is already in Europe, Serbs are Europeans. We don't need to become a part of the anti-European organization in Brussels. Educate yourself with this excellent essay about the dangers of EU membership from prof. dr. Milan Petrovic. He says an even worse fate awaits us if we were to join the EU than what is happening in comparison to Poland where already over 10% of Polish people are living abroad.

nacionalnasvest.rs/SRBIJA%20I%20EVROPSKA%20UNIJA%20M%20PETROVIC%202008%20lat.htm

So called "path towards EU integration" is a dead end, a blind road.

Brate I know that. We are givers of the West. West is born here in Serbia. It's even insulting how the EU official says they are `Europeans`. I know all about that.


God loves us Serbs very much and I do believe we avoid that lunacy that is EU. Our economy grows more than the economies of EU countries that are all robbed by Germany and France. I have friends in Hungary. They suffer because of the EU. They seriously suffer.

Intermezzo

While we wait for results, one suitable song dedicated to the day of Svetovid. BDW, at exactly this day, also happened Kosovo battle back in 1389, Serbs vs. Turks, in fact, Europe vs. Asia, where both rulers died in battle and battle in itself had no winner (disastrous casualties on both sides). Result of battle bought 75 years to Europe to organize against Turks because of prolonged turmoils on the Turkish throne that occurred.

Voivode Milos Obilic that penetrated Turkish lines and killed Turkish Sultan Murad II - Note that Obilic had Sarmatian dragon on his helmet

song Vidovdan (day of Svetovid) - archaic singing

>>> youtube.com/watch?v=6cH6XfUnh9c

>>> youtube.com/watch?v=-NzlnPNWEOM

Serbs celebrate Vidovdan, Svetovid`s say on the streets of Capital Belgrade

>>> youtube.com/watch?v=UxZBOrmxyFY

People, just to raport you from one pub. I washing germs with slivovica. I clearly hear them scream. Am I drank already

I wouldn`t say that. Brat Duda gave middle finger to western Europe. He understand that things changed. Poland isn`t on menu anymore.

You do know that Duda stated in the past that Serbia has to acknowledge Kosovo?

....and Poland was one of the first countries to recognize the new Kosovo!

Kosovo, a region where Albanians formed majority, declared its independence from Serbia on 17 February 2008 and Poland recognized it on 26 February 2008.[5]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albania%E2%80%93Poland_relations

...Poland was the first Slavic country to do so.

Only 9 days afterwards!

I wonder about that though:

Poland is a strong supporter of Albania's accession to the EU.[9] In a bilateral meeting, Jacek Czaputowicz stated that "Poland strongly supports Albania's membership of the EU...

We really don't need another failed state in the EU...why are they so set on Albania???

Very good too, however All this Kosovo stuff doesn't fit with a thread of life after death.

Although Kosovans as largely (though not especially devout) Muslims certainly believe in life after physical death. They also believe that people have their good deeds weighed against their bad ones; something that can inform religious piety, since extra prayers, pilgrimages, alms etc count as good deeds.

First the Serbian men need to stand up against the Serbian scum. Its tragic how an excellent nation have been drug thru the mud like the Serbs have been by their own kind

Yeah....well...and that might become a problem. We need less religion, not more....more enlightement and science...not beliefs.

How did it work for yous in the Soviet Germany? Like a charm innit?

Ideology is not much different to religion, Iron....it's the enlightement that's missing in both!

In Kosovo, they aren't particularly religious, despite everything the Serbians tried to do to them being almost a recipe to provoke radical religious conservatusm, something far from absent in Serbia.

Hmmm....I'll have to take your word on that! :)

Duda is full of trickery. But, his helping in arming Serbia, clearly shows that he and Poland, Hungary and entire Visegrad after all, detected the main problem on Balkan. The problem that constantly hijacks Poland and cuts every attempt of Poland to raise its head. That is Germany and the Vatican's pro-Germanic Franciscan order. That is what Dudas doing shows.


What good? Lech Kaczinsky made a unique scandal in UN GA when criticized his own government because of Kosovo recognition. In turn, Poland's PM Tusk admitted that Poland recognizes Kosovo on the pressure of powerful EU and NATO partners.

Not to say that the public in Poland was against Kosovo recognition.

So, Lech and Tusk, every one of them in their own ways, gave the middle finger to NATO and the EU. Even to the Vatican. They sow that EU, Vatican, and NATO doing in Central and Eastern Europe, in the first place harming Poland. Nothing harmed Poland's vital startegic interests as the Vatican organized genocide on Orthodox Serbs and translation of Catholic Serbs onto pro-German Croats.

Oh, Duda has a head. Duda is just in a specific situation with limited maneuverable space. But he solving certain problems of Poland. What he can't solve, he makes sure Serbs do. That is why he helping in arming Serbs and turning them in regional military power.

Hey Crow,Serbia citizens can travel to The EU for non essential visits,while Americans cannot still.

Americans are lucky. Less you have with the EU, more you are happy. Its not even authentic Europe.

But you are wellcome in Serbia.

PiS has been in full control of the government for more than 5 years, and have been discussing a lot of foreign political nonsense (e.g. reparations) yet they never entertained to my knowledge the idea of withdrawing the recognition of Kosovo. Perhaps the Polish posters have more information on that? There seems to be a consensus among the Polish lite and population that acknowleding Kosovo waa the right thing to do.

And honestly, at this point where would be the motiv for Poland to reverse the decision? To give a Serbian government who relies on Russia a foreign political victory and thus by proxy Russia?Kaczinsky believes that Russia assassinated his brother. He will opppse that on principle.

Please understand. If Polish Kings didn`t listen Popes, they will themselves become targets. Popes would exterminate every single man, woman, and child in Poland. The Vatican is a lethal foe. It is the Vatican that lured Poland to do things that harm Poland. The Vatican is cradle of sin. But Constantinople Patriarchs aren`t far from Popes. They covering the Greek genocide on Serbs, the same way Vatican covering genocide on Serbs during WWII in Croatia.

hmm ....nope, it due t fact that those countries exists on an opposite end of t he Continent. You know geography //

On the surface.. as for enlighten people the worst form of geocide, tyranny and oppression had been committed by those enlighten people.
U Need to check your facts BB.


Is not a topic of a debate in Poland. Why would any political party in Poland worry about Kosovo. Regardless of the fact it was a mistake to recognize it for free. There is nothing to be gained by backtracking now.

Crow there is basic rule in political reality IF you want help your should help yourself. Serbia is not able to do anything for Poland or pay for it. End of story,.

13 posts that hi-jacked this thread, should be moved to the Serbia thread, beat it!

@Joker

Agreed.
Crow needs to be sorted out by the mods...... this is ridiculous.

You are drank brate, if you exclude Czechs and include Croatia. Croatia isn't a serious state and already crumbling. Plus, Croatia is an inter-Serbian question. The very complicated thing in which you don't wish to enter before antagonisms are settled.

Besides, the Vatican and Germany destroyed Yugoslavia and committed genocide on Serbs exactly via Croatia. It's a historic lesson. Commonwealth isn't possible if the Vatican has a serious influence on it.

PiS? PiS is behind Polish Poczta when keeping Kosovo within Serbia? See? But it is obvious. Logical

Why then you brate spit on PiS and Poczta Polska? They deal with strategic things, why press them to be perfect on everyday level? Are you perfect to your woman?

It was not for free. Brat Tusk nicely told to Polish students that NATO and EU partners pressing Poland. By admitting that, brat Tusk, in fact, diplomatically said - `if we don't recognize Kosovo, we would be punished by our very good friends from western Europe, Clinton`s America and the Vatican`.

Be honest Irone to the very end. If not to me, to yourself at least.


Agreed.


Not truth. Just one example- Poland can buy Russian gas from Serbia and transit that via Hungary. Serbia is extremely important in Polnad`s energy security.

Former USA President Bill Clinton may finish in jail over NATO atrocities on Serbs and because he cooperated with Muslim terrorist Albanian UCK >>>

Frech article >

Bill Clinton's Serbian War Atrocities Exposed in New Indictment
by James Bovard
counterpunch.org/2020/06/30/bill-clintons-serbian-war-atrocities-exposed-in-new-indictment/

Croatia has a gorgeous nature and sea coasts also shipbuilding facilities.