Ukraine Crisis... Poland... and the way i see it

You didn't make any such request: you stated "not a word in western media about Mikhail Chechetov death today" and asked "where was his death reported?"


Are you ever going to learn not to try to lie your way out of being caught lying? My posts linking to zeenews and thepeninsulaqatar.com and focus-fen.net (funny how you don't mention that one) are here and here. I'd encourage all posters to click those links so they can see that I make no comment at all about those sources being either major media or western media.


I have made no such claim, as is shown by your inability to quote from posts in which I said it.
However, I am perfectly able to link to posts in which you claimed a report from Agence France-Presse is a report from an Indian website: those posts are here ("the report itself is from some indian site") and here ("cus you rapport,you posted here was from indian site").

But one thing does still baffle me, gregy, why do you keep claiming that Agence France-Presse is an Indian website? Can even you be so stupid that you think you can get away with claiming that Agence France-Presse is an Indian website?

again this is what you claim
can you back up your idiotic claim that AFP is indian website?


again...your post..
why did you claim that AFP is some indian website Harry...its obvious stupidity...can you explain us? and how zee indian.com become major western media?


here is entire page of this conversation...everyone can see what a lier you are..
polishforums.com/off-topic-47/ukraine-crisis-poland-way-see-70150/107/

i help you Harry: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/India

here is map of india...not in western europe as you claim:
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/India/@21.1289956,82.7792201,5z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m2!3m1!1s0x30635ff06b92b791:0xd78c4fa1854213a6

I do like the way that you follow the example of your hero in the Kremlin: lie about what one is doing and claim that somebody else has done exactly what one has actually done oneself. But it is a pity that you are unable to learn the lesson that, despite what your German hero said, repeating a lie countless times does not make it any more true.

At no time have I said that AFP is indian website (as is shown by the fact you can't link to any such statement). I linked to Indian, Qatari, Bulgarian and American news sites which all ran the same AFP article about the death of Chechetov. You, however, have repeatedly insisted that "the report itself is from some indian site" (as is shown by the fact I can link to your repeated statements about that).

Really gregy, now is a good time to stop with your lies: you aren't going to lie your way out, all you are doing is digging the hole you're in deeper and deeper.

why all those lies Harry?

can you provide any proof that India is located in west Europe,idiocy you insist on claiming?
just playing your games...how do you like it?


no no no Harry....running AFP article(if even exist) does not make zeeindia quatar.com or bulgaria .com a major western media.no matter how much you try

you can repeat your lies 100 times like your german hero still zee.india is not western media

Have you actually bothered reading that article, gregy? I'd like to draw your attention to two quotes from it:



Zeenews are not reporting on the death of Chechetov: they are carrying a report from Agence France-Presse. That is why the police spokeswoman spoke to Agence France-Presse and not to Zeenews. It is also why the article has an AFP byline rather than the name of any Zeenews journalist. That fact also explains why the same text, which you have repeated claimed to be from an Indian website, can be found on Indian, American, Bulgarian, and Qatari websites. In all places it is attributed to AFP, which does very much make one wonder just how moronic a person would need to be in order to claim that the report is from "some Indian site".


I'd have to tell that lie once before I could repeat it. But I haven't told it once, which is why you can't link to it or quote it. You, on the other hand, have repeatedly insisted that a report from AFP is from "some Indian site". Would you like me to yet again link to the posts in which you make that laughable claim?

afp.com/en/search/site/Mikhail%20Chechetov
which one?where is it?


hahahahaha does that make them major western media?
i asked which major western media reported his dead.i mean informed wider public about this event.
no zeeindia is not western media...and even if AFP had information about his dead,no major western media published info about it.NOT EVEN AFP ITSELF:

afp.com/en/search/site/Mikhail%20Chechetov
HARRY ,NOW CAN YOU BACK UP YOUR IDIOTIC CLAIM THAT ZEEINDIA.COM IS MAJOR WESTERN MEDIA ?

Jolly

I'm simply pointing out that what you call facts are nothing more than your interpretation of events. Anyway its good that you now think Ukraine should abide with the norms of democracy.

DOES THAT MAKES ZEEINDIA.COM AFP? Something that you insist on claiming?

No, Barney, you can repeat and repeat the same sentence but it does not change anything. Real events that happened are not just interpretation, they are facts. What kind of investigation do you think is needed into the signing of the draconian laws by Yanukovich? They laws were drawn up, signed by him and published. End of story. It is a fact, it happened. What do you want to investigate about it?

Harry? how "carrying a report" from western agency makes zee. indian .com one of major western media? idiocy you keep claiming all along

It is the report being carried at the following websites:
newsmax.com/world/europe/ukraine-crisis-politics-yanukovych/2015/02/28/id/627447
thepeninsulaqatar.com/news/international/324295/ally-of-ousted-ukraine-leader-found-dead-in-apparent-suicide
focus-fen.net/news/2015/02/28/364610/ally-of-ousted-ukraine-leader-found-dead-in-apparent-suicide.html
gulfnews.com/news/world/other-world/ally-of-ousted-ukraine-leader-found-dead-in-apparent-suicide-1.1464252
zeenews.india.com/news/world/ally-of-ousted-ukraine-leader-found-dead-in-apparent-suicide_1554161.html


No you did not, as shown above, you asked here "jon? where was his death reported?still waiting.you wanted to be like your hero harry,and didnt work?"


Really? So how do you explain these quotes?


news.yahoo.com/isolated-skirmishes-hamper-ukraine-truce-002458298.html


telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/russia/11442446/Boris-Nemtsov-murder-Kremlin-accused-of-whitewash-over-probe-into-leading-opposition-figures-killing.html
Oh dear, poor gregy, you have been caught lying yet again!

Is that supposed to be a question, gregy? That is not a question, that is a statement.
Oh, and there is no mention at all there of the word 'major' either.
So, if that's supposed to be your proof that "i asked which major western media reported his dead.", you fail due to your statement not being a question and neither saying nor asking anything about major media.

I wonder why you have nothing to say about your claim that "even if AFP had information about his dead,no major western media published info about it." being shown to be a lie. Perhaps you'd like to claim that both Yahoo and The Daily Telegraph are Indian websites, just as you repeated claimed that Agence France-Presse is an Indian website.

nope...thats what you claim...
well done telegraph..thats one ,and information was published at their website at 8:12 pm.several hours after you stupid claims that zeeindia is one of western media.


its not a lie..Harry,you have pathological obsession with this accusation..i didnt see this info on telegraph and asked if there is anything in western media..you did not provide any western media links until now..

get some medical help with your obsessions...your mental state is worrying me..you need help
and talk with doctor,while you there , about India being "western world"...see what he says

And with Yahoo News, it's two.
The Telegraph published their article at 8:12PM GMT on 28 Feb 2015 and Yahoo News posted that AFP report at 10:20 PM on 28 February 2015: both of those are days before your claim that "no major western media published info about it." and thus show your claim to be yet another of the lies which you litter this forum with.


Why do you bother? Even if we agree with your laughable claim that AFP is "some Indian website", at 03:48pm on 28 Feb 2015 I posted here a link to an American news site which was running the AFP report, I even specifically stated "here's some conservative US media running the AFP report". Oops, caught in another blatant lie, aren't you gregy?


Good to see that you're now just falling back to insults, are you finally beginning to understand that you can't lie your way out of being caught lying?

you are boring Harry..i can play your silly games,but it bores me already..its bad that potentially good ,aiming in informing and sharing opinions thread has turned into this,only thanks to 1 poster with some mental issues.


can you point me an insult in quote you posted,or is it another of your lies?
you are the one who constantly bite and insult everyone here on this forum..we all know that already

No gregy, you don't have mental issues, you just need to grow up a bit (no surprise there, given your age). Perhaps when you're a little older, you'll learn not to try to lie your way out of trouble.

Now, could you perhaps explain why you have repeatedly insisted that no western media covered the death of Chechetov when the links above clearly demonstrate that they have? And can you explain why you have claimed that until now I have not provided any links to western western media covered the death of Chechetov when the links above clearly demonstrate that I have? And we are still waiting for you to explain why you repeatedly claimed that a report from Agence France-Presse was from "some Indian site", are you going to explain that?


Here's a fun experiment for you: next time you're in the playground, say to one of the big children "get some medical help with your obsessions...your mental state is worrying me" and see how they react; although I should probably warn you that it's going to lead to them pummeling you mercilessly.

try to talk to people in real life, the way you talk here.and see how long you will be able to keep your teeth unharmed

Unlike you, I take care to talk here to people in exactly the same way I talk to people in real life.

Now, could you perhaps explain why you have repeatedly insisted that no western media covered the death of Chechetov when the links above clearly demonstrate that they have? And can you explain why you have claimed that until now I have not provided any links to western western media covered the death of Chechetov when the links above clearly demonstrate that I have? And we are still waiting for you to explain why you repeatedly claimed that a report from Agence France-Presse was from "some Indian site", are you going to explain that?

ohh...i guess that's explain why you have so much time to spent posting here.grow up and get some life

Thank you for that, gregy.

Now, could you perhaps explain why you have repeatedly insisted that no western media covered the death of Chechetov when the links above clearly demonstrate that they have? And can you explain why you have claimed that until now I have not provided any links to western western media covered the death of Chechetov when the links above clearly demonstrate that I have? And we are still waiting for you to explain why you repeatedly claimed that a report from Agence France-Presse was from "some Indian site", are you going to explain that?

@Barney
quote by Jolly


Looks like I have FINALLY instilled that in him Barney.
For weeks he kept repeating himself that the Ukraine crisis all started November 30, 2014.
After mega failed attempts to show that Euromaiden was a result of the coup that started way before 2014 I was ready to give up on him.

Then after him telling me that he had lived in Ukraine for three years it hit me.
He must have lived in Chernobyl down wind from the nuke accident when it happened !
He is a result of nuclear radiation exposure in high doses.
quote by Johnny Reb


I quoted this to him a week ago and somehow it didn't sink in.
Then understanding that 30 years ago Jolly wasn't even born yet...... no wonder he thinks it is just a conspiracy theory.
Now you know the rest of the story.............
Conclusion...........
I can explain it to him but I can't understand it for him.

np..anytime bro.
its better you spent your time behind PC
am glad to hear that even tho you are neglecting your mental problems at least you are looking after your teeth.well done

Gregy, instead of just posting off-topic insults, why not try to address your laughable claims in this thread? Perhaps you could explain why you have repeatedly insisted that no western media covered the death of Chechetov when the links above clearly demonstrate that they have? Or can you explain why you have claimed that until now I have not provided any links to western western media covered the death of Chechetov when the links above clearly demonstrate that I have? And we are still waiting for you to explain why you repeatedly claimed that a report from Agence France-Presse was from "some Indian site", are you going to explain that? And then there's still that vastly amusing claim of yours about serving French army officers, perhaps you'd like to address that?

Or is it that all you can do is try to insult people because your delusional fantasies have been exposed to the extent that even you can now see that they are delusional fantasies?

yes ,you did...daily telegraph is indeed part of "western media"
thanks to me ,you have been enriched with knowledge of geography from map of world i posted and learned fact,that India and quatar is not part of western Europe,you finally linked us to British media...excellent!!!.

Poor gregy, your fantasy world again doesn't reflect reality: I linked to a western media source reporting the death of Checketov and did so last month, right here. Just look at the timestamp on that post: Feb 28, 2015, 03:48pm

Please try to understand that when you stop posting your fantasies here I will stop pointing out that they are fantasies.

Well, dear Johnny, then how do you explain that, if this was all planned out long ago, why the west did not use the opportunity during and after the Orange Revolution? Why did they let another rather pro-Russian president gain power 5 years later only to then topple him?

Can you see how ridiculous all of this sounds? The west had the opportunity to stear Ukraine into the direction they wanted already by having rather pro-western leaders after the Orange Revolution. They didn't use that opportunity. Why? Because they "planned it out so long" that they thought it would be more fun to have two "revolutions" in Ukraine before acting?

Your arguementive questions nolonger interest me.
At least you are now on the right track by looking deeper into what the Ukraine crisis is all about.
Keep researching Buddy and you will be able to answer your own questions. ;-)

Because you do not know any better. Keep trolling here as you have shown when you stated on an internet forum that you do not have internet access :)

Jolly
Why should Ukraine be excused democratic norms?