Ukraine Crisis... Poland... and the way i see it

Off-Topic? The riots Poland vs. Russia happened. That's fact, reality! They hate you and your kind. Deal with it!

There is no need for "Anti-Serbian propaganda" The fact that all your neighbours hate you speaks for itself.


Poles are tolerant and welcoming. They just dont welcome your kind as much as you may hate it.

off topic, off topic Jolly. Read what you wrote above.

Anyway, i repeat, both, Poles and Russians needs to make certain effort to relax things within Slavic civilization. More tolerance is necessary. Let us prevent strangers to ridicule with us Slavs.


nonsense. One just needs to google on Hungarian-Serbian relations, Macedonian-Serbian relations, Bulgarian-Serbian relations, Romanian-Serbian relations, etc, etc and easily note how is that what you speak pure nonsense and insult for reason.

There is no need. The Polish have spoken. They neither like you or the Russians.


Quite rich coming from someone who masturbates over a "Slavia" every day and tries to make us believe that Slavia actually exists.

You are from Serbia. You know very well how hooligans represent certain parts of society. Euro 2012 has shown very clear how much the Poles hate the Russians. Just a pity that you did not play there. Only your better off neighbour Croatia managed to come and they were welcomed by the Polish Ultras. Unlike your kind..........

what i know Poles and Serbs have best possible relations since time immemorial. but, i won`t even try to figure out what you talk Jolly because most is off-topic and nonsense after nonsense anyway.

Proof me wrong Crow. I am happy to discuss but as far as i can see........the Polish people were happy to join the EU. The EU appreciated Poland's developments with Tusk's EU council presidency. What do you have do offer with your Slavia that is not even a thing that exists?

Stop your crying Crow. Nobody in the EU likes you. Not even your neighbours and Poland will do everything to stay away from the likes of you. That;s fact!

an article in connection to the topic

Hungary prepares for worsening situation in Western Ukraine

March 4th, 2015 / Politics. HU
politics.hu/20150304/hungary-prepares-for-worsening-situation-in-western-ukraine/



It is EU and USA which are responsible for situation in Ukraine. Before maiden, before EU and USA interfered, Ukraine was close to joining in Visegrad Group.

EU and USA actions directly harmed Poland`s interests. Have that in mind.

It is EU and USA which are responsible for situation in Ukraine.
No, it's Russian forces that have invaded Ukraine, not forces from the EU or USA. Although of course those Russian forces have help from the same Chetnik scum which collaborated closely with the Nazis a generation back, looks like your Chetnik heroes recognise the modern Hitler when they see him.

EU and USA actions directly harmed Poland`s interests.
Quite the reverse, actually; but one needs to not be utterly ignorant about Poland in order to know about the massive benefits Poland is enjoying as a result of the EU.

"A vile pride has taken over the country. It is the design of a dictator who severely restricts press and internet freedoms, legislates homophobia, and exalts the invasion of much smaller neighbors. Journalists and opposition leaders have been arrested and murdered under Putin's watch. Soviet history is even being rewritten to glorify Joseph Stalin."

forbes.com/sites/realspin/2015/05/07/70th-anniversary-of-world-war-ii-marked-by-facism-in-russia

FlaglessPole?

Even if that could be truth, let`s say, what does it matter if Russian society isn`t democratic by the standards of so called west? What does it matter? Really?

Shall we conclude that we live in world that is ruled by non-democratic Russia, genocidal EU, mafia USA and Chinese slavery? Shall we? Is that what you want to tell us FlaglessPole? i agree then

It is pretty easy. Someone know very well how to totally control so called "western-type democracy" for cheap. And trying to use the same methods on other varieties lead to unpredictable results and huge expenses. So, they now prefer to concentrate on "export" of one particular system to countries all over the world.

If somebody ask me- `would you suggests to Poland to follow example of Russia?`, i would say `no`.

If somebody ask me- `would you suggests to Poland to follow example of USA?`, i would say `no`.

If somebody ask me- `would you suggests to Poland to follow example of France?`, i would say `no`.

If somebody ask me- `would you suggests to Poland to follow example of Britain?`, i would say `no`.

If somebody ask me- `would you suggests to Poland to follow example of Germany?`, i would say `no`.

If somebody ask me- `would you suggests to Poland to follow example of China?`, i would say `no`.

If somebody ask me- `would you suggests to Poland to follow example of Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth?`, i would say `yes`.

eurozine.com/articles/2015-05-08-snyder-en.html

cropped - violation of the 100 words copy/paste rule

If Poles wants to prosper and profit they needs to do exactly opposite then Anglos. As Chinese president said- ``England has become insignificant country``

Crisis in Ukraine would finally put England in oblivion where England belong.

No, not because Russians say so. Because Serbs exposed England. Because England disturbed eternal forces that flow among civilizations, bringing dis-balance.

If England is insignificant, what is Serbia?

Would you say Serbia is quite possibly the victim of a rather cunning false-flag operation by a team of Albanian cyber-operatives who want to discredit the good name of Serbs by posting delusional rubbish and denying well-known basic facts about recent history?

Note to mods: I seem to remember being told that any posts in the off topic (or the bin) can be replied to, in a civil manner and without abuse.

significant, of course. Look what Chinese speak of Serbia and what about England

How exactly is England insignificant? Because a communist said so? So a communist said they won the great patriotic war, it was patriotic alright after their plan of taking the other half of Europe didn't work because they got stabbed in the rear it became patriotic. The things these people peddle as fact we enjoy as stand up comedy every night on the so called news.

New Putin Invasion Coming This Summer.

Moscow says it's sticking to a ceasefire agreement. Meanwhile, it's piling up troops and weapons for something that doesn't look so peaceful.

The war in Ukraine may have faded largely from international headlines, but Vladimir Putin's drip-drip invasion continues. In the last two weeks, forensic evidence, some of which has been reported by monitor organizations and senior Western diplomats, the rest corroborated by eyewitness photography and video, only confirm what the U.S. fears most: a summer offensive is inevitable.

read on
thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/05/17/new-putin-invasion-coming-this-summer.html?source=DailyBeast&utm_campaign=trueAnthem%3A+Trending+Content&utm_content=55583b4704d3017fdd000001&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=facebook&via=FB_Page

Let`s not fall in trap that west of Europe and USA creates.

Ukrainian nation have right to have its own independent state but, just after negotiations with Russians and Poles about borders. Plus, Ruthenisns deserve their own state by the same principle as Ukrainians. We all very well know what by historical justice belong to whom. If things aren`t settled in a way to satisfy historical justice, antagonisms would grow among Poles-Ukrainian and Russians-Ukrainians, while would on the other side, west of Europe and USA secure their influence on the region playing role of the mediator in crisis that they themselves created when acted one-sided and decided to support extreme Ukrainians.


Russia should solve this problem on its own, without allowing west of Europe and USA to meddling. If Poles (Polish politicians) decided to give up from their historical lands in Ukraine, why would Russians (Russian politicians) follow that logic?

After all, if Russia now act quickly it would reduce number of victims on all sides and plus with time reduce antagonism. In other words, if Russians wait, situation would in future force them on more lethal actions what would increase number of victims and stimulate growth of antagonism among Slavs of the region.


whatever Russia do, Russia is to be blamed. Reason plus for Russia to act quickly on its own.


morality of today`s China is on higher level then morality of England. No need to speak of `communists`. What communists they are? And what is England? Fights side by side with Arab mujaheedines, invades sovereign countries, committing genocide, organize and support terrorists and mafia, using forbidden weapons of mass destruction, violates UN charters endangering world peace, support dictators and Nazi regimes, etc, etc.

Polish non-governmental organizations, including the Crimea Foundation, Open Dialogue and the Generation Association are organizing a march in support of Ukraine that will take place tomorrow in Warsaw,

that's today folks!

http://uatoday.tv/society/warsaw-hosts-march-for-ukraine-on-may-17-in-warsaw-427621.html

Flagless

Polish non-governmental organizations?

Don`t tell me that are you that blind. Now west of Europe and USA pushing Polish politics in direct confrontation with Russia, in open Poland`s territorial pretensions on Russia. What you think how would that finish? Do you really believe that would USA and west of Europe risk nuclear war with Russia when Russia once in future move. No my dear, they would offer Russia deal how to split Poland once again. Plus, all that in situation when is Poland isolated from all other Slavs (except Croatia; finally on the same side, with Germany, Hitler would say)? By the God, Poland is isolated even from the Hungary. Not to say how is Poland from inside (political scene) totally divided. Think about it.

Poland have problems

Poles, i telling this to you as a brother to brother. It is west of Europe and USA who make problems right now.

So yeah today Polish non-governmental organizations are staging a march in support of Ukraine downtown Warsaw. I repeat this message so as not to have it drowned in yet another gag-inducing drivel by Crow, who previously had been 'PERMANENTLY' banned from this forum.

Incidentally are any mods willing to explain to me why the English word 'permanence' enjoys such a loose interpretation here?

Both stick to the topic

Looks like some Poles totally lost (or sold) their historical memory. Supporting regime that proclaim as national heroes the ones who is responsible for a Volynia massacre... It is beyond the area where good and evil is defined, at least.

Some people like flaglesspole are so deep into hating Russia, that for them hating Russia is more important than caring what is good for Poland.

Only traitors would go to such a proUkrainian march considering the Ukrainians honor Bandera murderer.

love for Poland by other Slavs would this time warn Poles and save Poland. We who love Poland won`t give up from Poles. Let west of Europe and USA seek for the new victim somewhere else.

war criminal poroshenko is visiting Poland...President Duda refused to meet him....good
don't shake those bloodied hands
stop war crimes!!!!!!!!!!
today i was eating english breakfast in cafe and reading the sun..it was whole 2 pages of stories from destroyed Donetsk....british are changing their position,no more "terrorists" bs,all article about kids and victims of bombardment...the sun is cons goverment supporter

i think it was the sun


thing are going to change Velund..Poroshenko is now hated by poles..i was reading posts on forum on WP.PL thousands posts insulting this UPA thug.and war criminal....

where are those who were supporting here this UPA thugs???!!!!! after latest upa glorification events,Poroshenko dared to come to Warsaw now,probably begging for more money..this cnut has nerve

look at those insults on Poroshenko and see how many thousands poles "like" them..and thats pro PO site:
wiadomosci.wp.pl/kat,1342,title,Prezydent-Ukrainy-spotka-sie-w-Warszawie-z-Komorowskim-i-Duda,wid,17573089,wiadomosc.html

Don`t worry Poles. If Poland don`t dare to protect ethnic Poles in Ukraine from Nazi extremists, Serbian Chetniks will. All Slavs would be protected by Serbian Chetniks, including ethnic Ukrainians and Russians, too. Ukraine would be purified from Nazis that fell in heresy of germanization

How are you dare to extrapolate behaviour of part of Ukrainians for all Ukrainians???

most ukrainians are decent people,and country is in trouble....but violent ultra nationalist way is not solution...ukrainians stop electing and supporting war criminals who glorify genocides,stop clapping hands when donbass child is killed....we are neighbors, calling genocide on poles as act of heroism is madness.killing Russian child in Donetsk is war crime.

UPA, IRA, AK and other guerilla, partisan or grass-roots resistance formations have been called terrorists by some and freedom-fighters by others. It all depends on one's perspective. Usually a group serving the interests of one nation may come into conflict and run counter to the ambitions and goals of another. That is inevitable. But are we to dwell of yesterday's conflicts and feuds? The Jews at one stage refused to drive VW beetles and former Israeli ambassador Szewach Weiss said as a youngster he and his friends used to smash the windows and otherwise to vandalize VWs. Are we to continue such attitudes and actions.