Ukraine Crisis... Poland... and the way i see it

Harry are you ever going to provide evidence for your conspiracy theory?

You made the claim that the recording was edited and I have asked for your evidence that it was. Everything else is you squirming to avoid admitting that you have no evidence for your claim, in short you lied.

As usual you are lying Barney: I repeated a statement made by a respected Ukrainian politician. You repeated the lies of a bunch of proven liars, the same proven liars whose lies led you to lie to us all about neo-Nazis being in control of key ministries in the new Ukrainian government.


Prove it Barney, prove it. Prove that me repeating a statement made by a respected Ukrainian politician was me lying. You'll need more than just a tape made by a bunch of proven liars.

In case you need an example of somebody here being demonstrated to be a liar, allow me to assist you:


As you wrote here.


As I wrote here.

You say the recording was edited and provide exactly zero evidence for your conspiracy theory, by your ridiculous standards that is a lie, Harry you lied.

some news
Ukrainian criminal,fascist junta sent tanks against civilians in slowiansk. killing 10 people.now i want Putins intervention,this is sick.scumbags
wonder if this is according to Ukrainian constitution and international law they were talking about alot. true colors of those nazi scum

Tymoshenko says it was. I believe her and am happy to repeat her statement. Feel free to carry on believing the lies the Kremlin mob tell you; clearly you have learned nothing from being exposed as a liar many times over.


Other than the word of a Ukrainian politician who is respected world-wide.


Conspiracy? There doesn't need to be a conspiracy to do what a small child can do with half-century old equipment!
But if we're talking laughable theories about conspiracies (or in this case the lack thereof), how about you tell us whether the tracing and hacking of the phones of Ukrainian politicians was the work of a single man or the result of a conspiracy?


No it is not a lie Barney. Let me give you some examples of lies:
"the [Irish Potato] Famine was made in England";
"the British army planted bombs in packed pubs";
"Mandela was not a terrorist";
"Neo-Nazis are in Control of Armed Forces, National Security, Economy, Justice and Education the right sector and justice parties control these ministries".
Recognise them? We do.


If I had, you would have proved it by now. How sad for you that you can't.


Nobody cares what you want gregy, nobody at all.


Yes, completely in line with it.

BTW, how about we have a UN peace-keeping force in Ukraine? Oh, no, I forgot who would block that.

Any chance of staying on topic? If you wish to discuss Ireland open a thread.

You made a claim that a recording was edited, are you distancing yourself from that claim because you cant support your lie?

You lied and have no evidence for your conspiracy theory.

i would love to tell you,what i think about you and your kind of ppl, but this thread would be closed if i do

your double standards,manipulation obvious lies,you not even sophisticated,its so primitive that am shocked people are wasting time to respond to them.
now,you can post some links..lol

Its absolutely non of Putin's business. Civilians don't don military uniforms, arm themselves with AK 104's and barricade and occupy a town.

According to International and Ukrainian law, action can be take against them..

Assuming this isn't more RT.com propaganda

wonder if you would say same thing if yanukovicz sent tanks against majdan and ordered to open fire...a month ago..

You apparently want to discuss lies: I was giving you examples of lies you might remember telling us.
You clearly want to believe that the lady was lying. I, however, take the word of a globally respected politician over the word of a bunch of thugs who are invading a neighbouring country; that you prefer to take the word of proven liars and criminals speaks volumes about what kind of person you are.


Tell that lie as often as you want. Tell it as many times as your lies about "Neo-Nazis are in Control of Armed Forces, National Security, Economy, Justice and Education the right sector and justice parties control these ministries"; those lies will still be just as true as each other.


I'm more than happy to pay your bus fare to Warsaw.

unless they are bandra thugs,in that case they can..isnt?


its matter of decency
if thats Ukrainian law then Yanukowicz had right to blow majdan with tanks.would you also feel right is he then used legislation as a excuse for murdering people?

I'm asking for proof the recording was doctored you said it was so you either have proof or you are telling an untruth.

Do you have proof?

As said above Barney, if you choose to take the word of a bunch of thugs who are invading a neighbouring country, the word of proven liars and criminals, over the the word of a globally respected politician who has spent years in prison for opposing those thugs, that speaks volumes about what kind of person you are. Sadly it doesn't tell us anything about you which we didn't already know.

kyivpost.com/content/ukraine/turchynov-anti-terrorist-operation-has-begun-in-northern-donetsk-343563.html
Russian Invasion

lol..more unbiased links

ooo look i got link as well:

rt.com/news/kiev-military-operation-east-584
want more links?

Well done! Aren't you clever?!
Now, is there any chance that you can give us any links to support your claims about a "fascist junta" sending "tanks against civilians in slowiansk. killing 10 people"? Any sources at all? We'd prefer one that isn't actually bought and paid for by the same government which ordered the recent invasion and occupation of parts of Ukraine, if you could possibly manage that.

And sadly tells us that you lied when you said the recording was edited.

Your links are RT,com, the mouthpiece of a country invading and annexing its neighbour.

RT.com is worthless.

NOTHING Russia says or Ukraine does justifies the Russian invasion. Its illegal.

You are more than welcome to keep telling that lie about Tymoshenko, Barney; all you're doing is eroding whatever tiny shred of credibility you might have been left after getting caught lying here so many times about so many things. Oh, and making sure that nobody is interested in a word you have to say about the topic of Ukraine.


And nothing excuses Russia's apologists, such as gregy and Barney.

This is true.

Russia does not have any tradition of impartial or even respectable media. RT.com is an official outlet for the regime.

of course is propaganda. unlike bandera thugs beating national tv boss..they are beacon of divine truth


muahahaha

guy said is RT is worthless,and at the same time posting link from bandera nazi controlled media..lol..we saw them already in action and how they deal with freedom of speech

this is getting hilarious

You said the recording was edited I asked for proof you dont have any, you told a lie.

Yulia Tymoshenko said that the recording was edited; I repeated and fully support her statement. She spent years locked up for daring to oppose the same scum whose lies you now pollute this forum with. You very clearly prefer to believe the lies told by the same proven liars who are currently invading and occupying Ukraine. I'd like to be able to say that I have no idea why you support such utter scum but I do know why (but I'd really better not say it here).


Keep repeating that Barney, if you repeat it billions of times, you might just make to true (please note at the comment I have just made is not a lie, it is a sarcastic statement).

While you're repeating that statement a few billion times, shall I repeat for the board some of the lies you have told here and which I have pointed to everybody that has made you so desperate to catch me lying that you are prepared to make yourself look like a complete and utter fool?

Harry

You said the recording was edited I asked for proof you don't have any, you told a lie and have conducted a song and dance ever since, that is typical.

Jon357,If you were paying attention to my posts,I never said that I believe that the recording isn't edited.What I said was I would have to hear from an expert,or at least some other tangible proof than just her word for it.So if you can suggest double standards if you like.I notice you taking issue with me on that other thread about a certain word,Now I'm not accusing you of hypocrisy or double standards but it seems that you are doing this here :)As I said before it wouldn't be hard for me to believe either way in regards to Tymoshenko.

That's all I have been asking, some proof for the statement that the tape was edited. What was offered was evasion, avoidance and pathetic word games, off topic posts and some fantasies as well in fact anything except a straight answer.

You have the word of a global respected Ukrainian politician who spent years in prison for daring to oppose the same people who are now invading and occupying her country. But you clearly prefer to take the word of the proven liars, the thugs who are trying to steal half a country, the people who lied about Tymoshenko and had her locked up when they had the power to do that. I'd ask if you have any shame but we all already know the answer to that question.

Harry I'm asking for proof not a dissertation on Tymoshenko.

Do you have proof....no you don't. You told a lie and your pants are on fire.

Yes I do: I have the word of a global respected Ukrainian politician who spent years in prison for daring to oppose the same people who are now invading and occupying her country. What proof do you have to support your laughable claim that Tymoshenko wants to murder Russian? Nothing but the lies of an utterly discredited criminal regime. Let me guess, next you're going to ask me to prove that she didn't commit the murder which the scum you support were trying to pin on her.

Harry

Proof, just proof.