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Ukraine Crisis... Poland... and the way i see it



jon357
5 Aug 2014  #1981

technically,it could be even explosives buried deep by rebels and detonated,to make it look as ballistic missile

Technically, it could be the ghost of Rasputin. Or even something from the Lord of the Ring.

The Russian terrorists have been using all sorts of missiles in the cities, especially where the civilians live. I pray they will just leave for Russia in peace. The Ukrainian government has offered them to put down the weapons and leave. Unless, of course, they have been involved in the murder and civilian killings.

Yes. Time for this to stop. Let's hope the sanctions hurt the oligarch and banks enough for them to put pressure on the Putinists to stop this.

gregy741
5 Aug 2014  #1982

icorpus reports 25 Ukrainian kia in phosphorus warehouse explosion...denied media reports of 700 ukra prisoners taken by militia.said its fake

the agony of the units deprived of provisions has begun-The Surrender of the 72nd Brigade:

vineyardsaker.blogspot.ca/2014/08/ukraine-sitrep-by-gleb-bazov.html

Velund
5 Aug 2014  #1983

technically,it could be even explosives buried deep by rebels and detonated

Or some unexploded WW-II-time bomb detonated from explosion of something smaller on surface. There is still a lot of such "gifts" on ukrainian territory.

Nathan
5 Aug 2014  #1984

jon357: Yes. Time for this to stop. Let's hope the sanctions hurt the oligarch and banks enough for them to put pressure on the Putinists to stop this.

Exactly. These war-mongering Putinists know only the language of force. Otherwise, they will turn the whole world in a war zone.

Velund
5 Aug 2014  #1985

Obama downplayed Moscow's role in the world

Interesting reading in Forbes about recent Obama statements...

forbes.com/sites/markadomanis/2014/08/04/3-things-barack-obama-got-wrong-about-russia

jon357
5 Aug 2014  #1986

Interesting reading in Forbes about recent Obama statements...

Were you so naïve as to think that Forbes Magazine make a habit of praising statements from Barraco Barner?

Crow
5 Aug 2014  #1987

Interesting reading in Forbes about recent Obama statements...

my friend. Don`t upset yourself because of that lunatic Obama. Man publicly demonstrate that he has genocide feelings on Russia and Russians. Backar Omaba is one very sick man

i pray to Christ and to Svetovid that they give wisdom to Russia at this time. Wisdom to Ukrainians, too. To all Slavs, after all.

Considering involvement of Anglo-Germanic interests that are in Ukraine presented with hostility, with the nazi banderists, at least minimum what one Slavic government can do is to boycott sanctions against Russia. My country recognizes Ukraine within its international borders (with Crimea) and suggests negotiations between Ukrainians and Russians so that they can peacefully agree on their mutual border. Stance of Serbs should also serve as support to all those Ukrainians who wants to progress as free from west of Europe USA as well as from Russian domination. But, to progress as Slavs, not as Germanized traitors.

My people opposed to Russia whenever Russia wanted to dominate over the Slavdom. No matter its own problems with invading Turks and Germanics, Serbians even fought against Russians, side by side with Poles (just one example- Orsha battle), when Russia was blind to understand reality within Slavia. My people even confronted Russian Empress Cathrine the Great when she threatened to slaughter Ukrainian Cossacks (in Zaphorozie).

BUT, never did my people in its entire history waged war against other Slavs, side by side with non-Slavs. Never and, it would stay that way.

PM: Serbia won't join sanctions against Russia

BELGRADE -- Serbia recognizes Ukraine along with Crimea, but does not intend to introduce sanctions against Russia, Prime Minister Aleksandar Vuèić has reiterated.


Serbia; demonstrate stance of one independent Slavic country; Slava!

That`s how it goes with Serbs.

gregy741
5 Aug 2014  #1988

for those who claim all "russians" fighting in rebelion:
sbu official report,,11 russians out of 300 seps detained,thats 4%:

112.ua/glavnye-novosti/sbu-zaderzhala-300-chelovek-za-separatizm-iz-nih-11-grazhdan-rf-shtab-ato-96333.html

Over the last 20 minutes or so, numbers of residents of Donetsk report grad salvos in more than one district and also several aircraft, unknown type because it's dark, bombing various districts. No single source to link to as this is simply people reporting what they see and hear to VK and blogs. Night bombing runs over Donetsk city.

something new,since Ukra air force doesn't have night operation capabilities,i believe.either they upgraded somehow recently,or they just dropping bombs randomly on 1 million city.

FlaglessPole
5 Aug 2014  #1989

Moscow students (as in academics... their future intelligentsia) celebrating Obama's birthday with this projection on the US embassy facade:

youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=bv641C-Qz8E

primitive much..?

gregy741
5 Aug 2014  #1990

their future intelligentsia

you have no future intelligentsia ,primitive fascist state full of hatred and nazi apes, is your future
see Muppet?people in russia are allowed to express different views,,in nazi Kiev ppl who support Putin this way, would be murdered on sight

FlaglessPole
6 Aug 2014  #1991

you have no future intelligentsia ,primitive fascist state full of hatred and nazi apes, is your future
see Muppet?

to the moderator on duty, any chance of finally stepping up and keeping this thread free of apoplectic ramblings.. and I don't mean only the example above... there is plenty more by the same poster, thank you

gregy741
6 Aug 2014  #1992

ooo...truth hurts you doesnt?
yes people in Moscov are allowed to cheer birthday of leader of hostile state.
in Kiev they are murdered,burn alive,raped,imprisoned,parliamentary deputies beaten and removed.people tortured and battered to death.for havine different opinion...FASCIST STATE!!!!!

compare

sbu claiM is creatind data of civilians who support DPR freedom fighters and those who criticize barbaric criminal behgaviour of Kiev Apes.in order to prosecute them under antiterrorist act.

also demanded to close all website that support freedom fighters of DPR and LPR.
fascist!!!!!!!!!!FASCIST STATE ALL OVER

FlaglessPole
6 Aug 2014  #1993

ooo...truth hurts you doesnt?

The only thing that hurts is the level of your cretinism. Being half-polish I'm quite fond of Poland and it is somewhat agonizing to see such a dense tool like yourself giving credence to Polack jokes.

Nathan
6 Aug 2014  #1994

Moscow students

Bunch of cavemen.

gregy741
6 Aug 2014  #1995

youtube.com/watch?v=bv641C-Qz8E

Thank you show us this video..maybe nazi apes learn how it is civilized world life looks like.ppl are allowed to express their view.

FlaglessPole
6 Aug 2014  #1996

nazi apes

any time mods.....

gregy741
6 Aug 2014  #1997

oooo...so now calling nazi -an primitive ape is banned here?i tho it should be rewarded rather

Nathan
6 Aug 2014  #1998

maybe nazi apes learn how it is civilized world life looks like.ppl are allowed to express their view.

This is not a view. This shows absence of brain cells.
You mean like these people were "allowed" in Moscow when they expressed their view?
youtube.com/watch?v=7fhW95xKx-8

gregy741
6 Aug 2014  #1999

your cretinism

tool like yourself

its 3-rd day in row you post barrage of personal insults here.
i insult fascist criminal government in Ukraine,rightfully
anytime Mod

Barney
6 Aug 2014  #2000

An interesting read:
academia.edu/2481420/_The_Return_of_the_Ukrainian_Far_Right_The_Case_of_VO_Svoboda_in_Ruth_Wodak_and_John_E._Richardson_eds._Analyzing_Fascist_Discourse_European_Fascism_in_Talk_and_Text_London_and_New_York_Routledge_2013_228-255

gregy741
6 Aug 2014  #2001

as we speak now Donetsk is bombarded with dumb bombs and seem not to have been targeted at any specific military target, then I can only think that it was a raid designed to un-nerve the population and destroy moral. ...If so, the pilots and those who command them, all the way up the chain of command, should stand trial in Hague

FlaglessPole
6 Aug 2014  #2002

i insult fascist criminal government in Ukraine

No, the only thing you insult is people's intelligence. You bring the debate to gutter level, luckily for you the moderators don't seem to care that much.. this forum used to be somewhat good, now it's a crumpled up tabloid tossed into sewage. But hey let's only react to personal insults... because otherwise everything is hunky-dory... right mods?

gregy741
6 Aug 2014  #2003

your contribution to this thread apart from primitive insults,is repeating same cliches propaganda and lies over and over.is beyond pathetic-in pair with Nathans derogatory use of language towards other ethnic people.

its far to obvious to me,you get mad anytime i bring facts of criminal actions committed by fascist regime of Kiev.
you never respond to videos and images and facts regarding those atrocities,instead start provoking with insults as a response.

example?
where are all those Russian terrorist messin in east ukraine,since even by SBU raport-there is less than 4% of them among captured rebels?
You the one claiming russians are keeping hostages east Ukrainians
YOU ARE LIER.

emergency Security council of UN right now called by Russia to provide humanitarian help to donetsk just finished

NOTHING will be done. No humanitarian aid.

Ukraine denied needing any help.

time to Russia to do something ffs

FlaglessPole
6 Aug 2014  #2004

where are all those Russian terrorist messin

ok deluded child.... the fact that the key figures in DPR government are Russian citizens, most of them from Moscow has according to you no significance, not to mention the DPR recruiting office in Moscow.. but yeah go on then, keep yelling...

gregy741
6 Aug 2014  #2005

ok...so now you jump on leaders when YOUR LIES were exposed even by Kiev fascist security services
96.2% rebels are local people

where are those Russian armies occupying Donetsk and lughansk lair?
3.8% is that's the "Russian invasion"you been talking about?
no -nazi kiev waging war against own citizens!!!!!!!!-fact
miners,teachers ect, whose families were murdered and homes destroyed by junta

shocking stupidity on UN council:
all blah blah blah about Crimea and seps and MH-17.,Russia speaking second time now:
"Russia: This evening I asked the members to set aside politics and discuss the humanitarian needs. The members set aside humanitarian needs and made statements on the politics."

Nathan
6 Aug 2014  #2006

Aggressor Russia offers to send "peace-keeping" troops from Russia. Cynicism of grande proportions.

Crow
6 Aug 2014  #2007

Bunch of cavemen.

what would you suggests as `final solution` for those cavemen as you label them?

gregy741
6 Aug 2014  #2008

my pick ,he would like bayonets for children and axes for adults.

Crow
6 Aug 2014  #2009

No, he won`t go that far. But, exactly that`s what Serbian children got from ustashe in Croatia, in Krajina (what is now Croatia). Are those banderists same as ustashe?

gregy741
6 Aug 2014  #2010

No, he won`t go that far.

you sure they will not? did u see images from Odessa?those people jumping from windows only to be butchered by crowd.


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