Ukraine Crisis... Poland... and the way i see it

So, Gregor Gysi is lying in Bundestag? ;)

The Pentagon said there is no truth in the story, because there is no truth in the story. The Russians have shut up about it because they have been caught lying.


Or they could just put the base within range of Crimea. That might be smarter.
And isn't it funny how the VoR report makes no mention of landing and refueling? Looks like they forgot to check their lies.


What an interesting way of admitting that there is no proof at all of what the Russian side claim, that the supposed source of the report has issued an official denial about the story and that VoR has been caught lying.


No it is not. The Rostec Avtobaza system is a "ground electronic intelligence system" rostec.ru/en/news/2698. It is "designed to detect airborne side-looking radars, air-toground fire-control radars and low-altitude flight control radars" ausairpower.net/APA-Warpac-Rus-PLA-ESM.html. It is a "passive radio engineering surveillance system" aviasalon.com/en/mc/index.php?t=3&query=193&page=7. It can no more take control of a drone than my car radio can.

Face it: you told us a lie. You now have zero credibility (which is pretty much what you had before).

report from Crimea are saying people are happy to be joining Russian federation. Putin is stopping western aggression a welcome move by many.

Thank you. I'm glad to be promoted in such a high rank... ;)


So, it can do 95% of work in interrupting of unknown comms channel (detect it and determine basic parameters). The rest can be done by some relatively dumb high power transmitter, not necessarily based in same vehicle, or even in nearest vicinity.


And who said about "taking control"? There was "control channel interruption" in the news, it is much easier task. Pretty easy to heavily overload receiver LNA and make receiver completely "deaf".

You said


Then claimed you said no such thing.

I don't care what the Kremlin says, people who name a think tank after Goebbels and pose with Nazi paraphernalia are neo Nazis and that is why I describe them as neo Nazis. They broke into the offices of that TV guy and beat him up because they didn't like what he broadcast. One was the deputy head of Ukraine's committee on freedom of speech. He is in a position of power, I don't remember describing him as a genius just a neo Nazi thug.

I have been very clear I am as opposed to the partition of Ukraine as I am to Neo Nazis.

There are 'reports' from Crimea about US drones being shot down: do you believe everything you read?
The last opinion polls done before the people of Crimea had tens of thousands of Russian troops pointing guns at them showed 59% of people wanted to stay in Ukraine. The party which has been put in power there by Putin never scored more than 4% in elections.


Here in Poland people are rather more concerned about Russian aggression (with good reason). Here in Poland people want to welcome the people of Ukraine into the community of Europe.

that actually makes sense, Harry. I can't imagine, anyone who would want to be a part of Russia (a long tradition of being overly, neighborly takes its toll). Besides who with an IQ of 70 and up, would want to even consider it after experiencing Holodomor?

and after mass deportation of Tatars, who were packed into the cattle trains in one night in 1944, over 800,000 people and weeks were carried to the remote regions of Russia and Kazakhstan. Majority died along the way from hunger and suffocation.

If we're talking about genocide which Russians committed against the people of Ukraine, don't overlook the Sürgünlik: the genocide committed against the Tatars, who are now again being targeted by the Kremlin's men.

Look at the 5th and 16th pictures.These people are not under duress.Like I said with a statue of Lenin the size of the one in that particular square....is it really that hard to believe that the Crimeans wanted this referendum?

Putin speech slams American exceptionalism being carried through out of the world by the gun, how refreshing someone is talking truth.

Look at photos of some people in the Sudetenland in 1938, how well did that work out?


Given that before they had lots of Russians pointing guns at them most of them wanted to stay in Ukaine and given how the party that Putin has now appointed as the local government never got more than 4% of the vote in elections, is it so hard to understand that the 'referendum' was rigged?

p3, you don't know the Soviets, man. Something like that, could be easily staged by them. What would it take for them to 'ship' ten thousand people from 'mother' Russia to this region and make it all look like they love Russia and want to be a part of it? Putin is an old KGB expert, he knows how make it all look legit (I mean, it could obviously happen anywhere else too).

We simply can't exclude this possibility just like we're open to all kinds of crap that is going on in this country too.

and Obama is a company man, I think Obama does not know his history as where he was born or who payed for his collage or why he is a president.

Kaganovitch was also a Jew.

all of them ware jews of different nationality.

now lets talk about Wolyn
difference is,russians dont glorify those crimes,there 5 svoboda banderist party people in your junta goverment.
and again.why u blaming ethnic Russians for the crime committed by 2 Georgians and Ukrainian?

"Dmitry Orlov is a Russian blogger who writes about the parallel between the U.S and the USSR. "
and his take on Ukraine
usawatchdog.com/collapse-and-systemic-failure-at-all-levels-coming-to-us-dmitry-orlov/

4 eigner,even AP and Reuters are reporting that the Crimeans have overwhelmingly supported the referendum as a forgone conclusion.I know that Russia is as capable as the US when it comes to staging things,of this I have no doubt.I personally do not believe that this is the case.The area is mostly ethnic Russians,and it makes sense that they wanted to join with Russia.That is what my gut is telling me.but ofc this was a blatant power grab by Putin,and I don't condone it,but I do say that it was a predictable as well as logical move on Putin's part.

I saw a Kerry speech last night where he said it should not have happened with the Russian soldiers locally afoot and the international community must stand up to Russia so they realize this is serious and this sort of nationalism is not to be tolerated. He said Russia must be sanctioned.

This is an interesting development

news.yahoo.com/russia-says-u-decision-shut-syrian-embassy-disappointing-115039105.html;_ylt=AwrBJR_1ASpT_EAApwDQtDMD
Surely a response to Ukraine.Is this indicative of some sort of subtle threat?Perhaps a tit for tat?

typical american cowboy.i bet he doesn't even know where Crimea is,probably in Africa.killing million Iraqis in illegal war was OK for him i guess.now they talk alot about international law

so Kerry walks to bar and bartender said why so long face. who cares what the Kerry scull and bones said Putin does not.

p3, since when we believe media, my friend? I know, I don't and I know, you don't either. Hey, whatever suits your boat, man. I'm not saying, it isn't so, all I'm saying is, there's a possibility Putin has his sticky fingers in it, that's all.

I don't trust Obama, why would I trust Putin? To me, they're both screwheads and deserve the same kind of criticism.

4 eigner,I don't always believe the media,but one side is right and one side is wrong.I say that the Crimeans with their huge Lenin statue...decided that they wanted to Join Russia.The fact that those news outlets don't keep pushing this under duress angle,and they are western press...if you believe that the Crimeans were under duress,I can respect that.I just don't buy it.

To me, it's more lack of interest than support. There are some statues but they're not important enough to be removed, that's all. Then again, I'd would have to be there to determine what's going on. Right now, it's all about speculations and expressing my own opinion about it, that's all.

So, you are admitting that coup in Kiev was as you put it "against Ukrainian Constitution".

4 eigner,I think they would have pulled it down myself.after being taking taken out from under the yoke of Soviet oppression.Now do I think that Putin would have forced this annexation with out their blessing?....Oh absolutely,I personally don't think that it was necessary though.But that's my own take on it .

amount of lies manipulations and pure garbage,but the worst thing you wishing world war to protect your assets.you murdered hudred thousands people in west and demand land in the east that never belonged to you.

talking about constitution...lol
your junta got to power breaching constitution and there is no doubt about it..here ,bandera democracy with accords with constitution:
militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?236005-Situation-in-the-Ukraine-Crimea-*Photos-Videos*-ONLY/page96

You cannot answer my question, Less777? If this is the case, say so, but don't put words into my mouth.