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Ukraine Crisis... Poland... and the way i see it



JollyRomek
18 Feb 2015  #2821

Would you care to share this information with us? I mean perhaps post a link to these articles with the new and revealing information about Maidan?

gregy741
18 Feb 2015  #2822

bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-31359021
spiegel.de/politik/ausland/maidan-jahrestag-in-kiew-das-unaufgeklaerte-massaker-a-1019044.html
kresy.pl/publicystyka,reportaze?zobacz/frankfurter-allgemeine-zeitung-ujawnia-przyczyny-masakry-na-majdanie

JollyRomek
18 Feb 2015  #2823

spiegel.de/politik/ausland/maidan-jahrestag-in-kiew-das-unaufgeklaerte-massaker-a-1019044.html

"Timur Zoj" and his special unit were ordered from Crimea to Kyiv. Today, he serves near the town of Feodossija. The only thing that has changed is that he is now serving the Russian Federation". - I must admit, an incredibly trustworthy source :) :)

Barney
18 Feb 2015  #2824

Gregy, this was reported at the time.

Greg, my point about it being reported before is that no matter how many times its reported the narrative has been written. Without a proper inquiry the truth will never be known.

The BBC reporting this story is a good step but the reporting on the nazi thugs has been dismissed as nonsense by those who should know better even when documented evidence has been produced.

Harry
18 Feb 2015  #2825

Nazi thugs, Barney? Are those the same Nazis you claim control all of those government ministries?

We are, by the way, still waiting for you to name those Nazis. Surely you can do that, can't you?

gregy741
18 Feb 2015  #2826

i can Harry...i can even post you link,here: every single one of those war criminals are nazi:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Yatsenyuk_Government

all take responsibility for atrocities ethnic cleansing and war crimes committed in the name of Ukrainian neonazist ideology...up to 50k of innocent civilians killed,million displaced

what happened to yefermov? ukrainian democracy strikes again?

Harry
18 Feb 2015  #2827

Gregy, seriously, do you know what the word 'Nazi' means? I very much get the feeling that you don't.

JollyRomek
18 Feb 2015  #2828

up to 50k of innocent

Do you still not realize that the number of 50000 who supposedly have lost their lives in this conflict is just an illusion you have?

Barney
18 Feb 2015  #2829

There is no definite number agreed for fatalities, the OSCE say 5 to 6 thousand, the UN say there are more but don't give a figure. Some German reports suggest the figure may be as high as 50,000. Who knows

JollyRomek
18 Feb 2015  #2830

tell this to German Federal Intelligence Service...am sure you are much better informed than them...your info you suck straight from avakov ars.e...can get more reliable than that

A German news paper reported on that figure. Everyone else says that it is between 5000 and 6000. Of course, you jump on the 50000 and cling to it because it suits you.

Even your favourite TV channel Russia Today is talking about 5000 - 6000 people.

gregy741
18 Feb 2015  #2831

A German news paper reported on that figure. Everyone else says that it is between 5000 and 6000. Of course, you jump on the 50000 and cling to it because it suits you.

do you have any ability to understand what word "up to" mean?

Barney
18 Feb 2015  #2832

The UN think the 5 to 6 thousand number is too low, the OSCE figures comes from officially reported fatalities which is almost certainly an underestimation. No one knows the exact figure the 5 to 6 thousand figure is the absolute minimum.

JollyRomek
18 Feb 2015  #2833

do you have any ability to understand what word "up to" mean?

Ah, nice way of playing with words. So, it is 5000 - 6000 but to sound more dramatic you say up to 50k. Yet, you complain about propaganda :) :)

Harry
18 Feb 2015  #2834

Does anybody happen to know how many of those 50,000 were serving French army officers?

gregy741
19 Feb 2015  #2835

check out stopfake.org...am sure they have all them answers.

Crow
19 Feb 2015  #2836

i see peace

Harry
19 Feb 2015  #2837

Do you see any serving French army officers fighting there? gregy does, but he won't give us any information about them.

johnny reb
20 Feb 2015  #2838

Lose some weight on the French army officers Harry, or you'll be send you back to that delinquent boys boarding school.
You've camped on it long enough.

Harry
20 Feb 2015  #2839

I'm still asking for those sources, Johnny, because gregy won't give them to us.

But if you want to talk about something else, how about that laughable claim you made about US special forces operating in Ukraine? I'd love to see a source for that!

Crow
20 Feb 2015  #2840

If French presence in Ukraine prove to be fact, that would be great blasphemy. It is so because French in the region stays remembered as the goat loving people. Its because when Napoleon invaded Russian Empire, they didn`t take girls to be fun for soldiers. They took goats for that purpose. Napoleon was very sick man.

johnny reb
20 Feb 2015  #2841

Sure Harry, when I get some time I will be happy to find that info for you.
Until then let's make it clear that the U.S. backed government of Ukraine is losing this war.
That is really the issue here.

prisonplanet.com/the-u-s-backed-government-in-ukraine-is-starting-to-lose-the-civil-war.html

Roger5
20 Feb 2015  #2842

Harry, you should consider defeat. How can you counter experts like crow, gregy, johnny, Alex 'The truth will set you free" Jones and the Russian news media? Just face it, French officers are there, and so are American special forces, who are no doubt kidnapping those Ukranian children for organ harvesting in the US. Oh, yes, I forgot the Polish snipers picking off refugees.

johnny reb
20 Feb 2015  #2843

quote by Harry

how about that laughable claim you made about US special forces operating in Ukraine? I'd love to see a source for that!

Harry your defense attorney is right, you should accept defeat on this one.
Here, take your pick of sources of United States special forces in the Uraine.
The one with images of U.S. special forces in Ukraine might be the one that curbs that laughable claim.

bing.com/search?q=U.S.+Special+Forces+In+Ukraine&src=IE-SearchBox&FORM=IE8SRC

My suggestion is to fire your comedic attorney so he quits following you around like a calf sucking hind tit.

Harry
20 Feb 2015  #2844

Johnny, here's a quote from the first link on that list you link to:

But EUCOM said no U.S. forces were deployed in Ukraine as a matter of policy and Ukrainian troops have not so far been involved in the special forces training in Eastern Europe.

m.huffpost.com/us/entry/5482279
So a fairly reliable source says your claim is 100% wrong, but you think it supports your claim. Nice logic.

And here's a quote from the second site on your list:

About three hours ago Russian special forces engaged US ground troops in the Ukraine, according to Russian government and gnostic illuminati sources. This move was in response to the imminent bankruptcy of the Federal Reserve Board.

deusnexus.wordpress.com/2014/03/01/fulford-special-ukraine-alert

Even by your special standards, that's pure comedy gold, Johnny.

So, any chance of a reliable source to support your laughable claim?

gregy741
20 Feb 2015  #2845

So, any chance of a reliable source to support your laughable claim?

stop fake perhaps? don't they have all answers you need?

good channel about news from front with English subtitles :
youtube.com/channel/UCG2L5r9T5iYCH0Mmgq85jNQ

Harry
20 Feb 2015  #2846

Gregy, any chance you could link directly to the video(s) which show serving French army officers fighting in Ukraine? Or perhaps the ones which show US special forces in Ukraine? I'd rather not waste my time looking for videos which we all know don't exist. Thanks in advance.

gregy741
20 Feb 2015  #2847

life in Donetsk:
zyalt.livejournal.com/1279745.html
zyalt.livejournal.com/1279197.html?utm_source=ljpost&utm_medium=teaser&utm_campaign=teaser

in Lughansk:
zyalt.livejournal.com/1202697.html?utm_source=ljpost&utm_medium=teaser&utm_campaign=teaser

Gregy, any chance you could link directly to the video(s) which show serving French army officers fighting in Ukraine?

i have already..
got one interesting one..about lady from liberated Dobalceve,telling story about ukrainian soldiers throwing grenades into basements where civilians live and hide from bombing.let me know if you interested..its not from stopfake so i dont know if you interested to watch it

johnny reb
20 Feb 2015  #2848

Give up Gregory.
Even when we produce what Harry ask for he won't concede hell or high water that he is wrong.
I learned a long time ago that you can't win an arguement in a bar.
Your right Harry, everyone else is wrong.
You win.

Harry
20 Feb 2015  #2849

You have already? No, gregy, you most certainly have not provided any proof of serving French army officers fighting in Ukraine. You have offered us four Frenchmen: two are former enlisted men (one of who was thrown out of the French army for being a neo-Nazi) and the other two have never served a single day in French forces. So, I ask again, any chance you can give us some sources to support your laughable claim that there are serving French army officers fighting in Ukraine?

Cool story there about basements, we'll file it along with your tales about crucified children.

And Johnny, no you haven't provided any sources supporting your claim, quite the reverse, unless one takes the word of the illuminati.

gregy741
20 Feb 2015  #2850

your laughable claim that there are serving French army officers fighting in Ukraine?

can you quote me saying this or shut up

"they are not only soldiers but officers,one highly decorated...they are there as a volunteers..maybe already out of service of France forces but still.

same with Russian forces in Ukraine..point was,its not Russian state sending army,but Russian military service man volunteering."this is what i wrote.

are you some psycho sociopath? why you allowed to spam and provoke people with same bs over and over...is beyond me.and am the one receiving warnings

Harry ♂

where are quotes Harry?huh?told you check your head...you putting stuff into your head and then repeating lies over and over...its sick


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