Ukraine Crisis... Poland... and the way i see it

The problem is that up until now you and gregy have not produced anything. If i remember correctly, my dear johnny_reb, the last time you tried to produce something that meant to give your argument some foundation, you posted links to two articles which contradicted each other.

You may not be aware of this, and how would you living in your little fantasy world, but so far it has been Harry and myself who have given you concrete facts to which we invited you to discuss them with us. However, everything single fact that we have given you has been completely ignored by you and instead, you chose to start name calling, pouting or behaving like 8 year old's. And don't even try to deny it because it is all in the history of this thread, for every single member of this forum visible.

The quote are reproduced here gregy, complete with links to the posts in which you said them
polishforums.com/off-topic-47/ukraine-crisis-poland-way-see-70150/99/#msg1467529

I'm sorry that reality is so often not the way you'd like it to be, but retreating into a fantasy world is not the answer.

point it...where i said they are currently on service...told you ..quote or shut up..got fed up as everyone else with your lies...you just pathologically unable to communicate with people,every topic you go ,its same story ,same accusations and then end up with insults but with different members......get some pills for that


so where is it? on the very page you provided i stated twice they are not on service...its exactly prove the opposite...you are LAIR Harry

".they are there as a volunteers..maybe already out of service of France forces"
"cant be serving soldier,since hes there not in France"

get pills

You can't argue wirh the criminally insane puppets of putin. Just read their paper you will see that almost all of it is made up garbage. A kid could easily make more believable stories. It is the most ridiculously brainwashed country on the planet. I would not even wipe my backside with it as I wouldn't want my bum to become deluded.

Please gregy, make an effort to tell the truth.
I asked you here "Any chance of a link to sources evidencing that serving Swedish soldiers and French soldiers are fighting in Ukraine? Or could that perhaps be yet another of your fantasies?"

You replied here


You then crowed about 'proving' serving French army were fighting in Ukraine here


Sadly for you the truth is that none of those four have ever been French officers, none of them are serving French officers, half of them have never served at all in French forces, and of those who did serve half got kicked out for having unsavoury neo-nazi tendencies.

Better luck next time.

you are one sick lair


and now whole sentence:
hey are not only soldiers but officers,one highly decorated...they are there as a volunteers..maybe already out of service of France forces but still.

and of course you omitted later part in which i said they are not in service...you are sick

Gregy, is there any chance you can manage to write a whole post without throwing in insults? You were asked if there was any chance you could give a link to sources evidencing that serving French soldiers are fighting in Ukraine. You replied:


But none of the men in that clip are serving French soldiers, half of them never have been!

I guess you didn't like the pictures in that link of U.S. special forces in Ukraine. (sigh)


You mean like when I ask you if the Ukraine conflict was now nolonger about the Ukraine and it was now between Russia and the U.S. ? You repeatedly ignored my question and then finally answered with "I am not interested in your question."

Well Skippy the road runs both ways. (sigh)
Kids..........

There are no photos in your link of US special forces in Ukraine.

I'd encourage everybody to click Johnny's link and see for themselves.

That was not a question about facts. That was a question to run along with your conspiracy theories. I have told you before that I am only interested in discussions that contain facts which is why your repeatedly asked question did not interest me. If you are unable to talk about facts, then simply say so.

Bojan Pancevski Correspondent for The Sunday Times of London:
Surviving #Ukraine troops wondering shellshocked around #Artemovsk; drunken shootings, reports of violence, pubs close at 6pm amid tension

Johnny, you really beyond all hope. The sites you quote from are for tinfoil hat-wearing nutjobs. "...gnostic illuminati sources"? Are you seriously throwing that nonsense into a discussion on Ukraine? As for Alex Jones, that guy is completely off his rocker.

Still, I suppose you can't expect much more from a Texan protestant fundamentalist. How old is the Earth, Johnny? Do you believe in angels? Did man really land on the moon (six times)? Aren't there any conspiracy theory sites you like? You contribute absolutely nothing of value here.

Sorry that my sources are not as good as your's in this thread on the Ukraine Rog........WAIT.......
you don't have any sources as this is your first post in this thread !
You are the one that contributed nothing of value here.
All you contributed was a personal character attack (as most of your posts are)
Do you really squat to pee ?
Aunt Roggie, you really are beyond all pitiful hope. lmao

Johnny, instead of just trying to insult Roger, why don't you to try to support your claim that US special forces are operating in Ukraine?

Gregy clearly has an excuse for his behaviour, and we're all hoping he will grow out of it; but you're a fully grown man, you don't get to have childish behaviour excused on the grounds that a child will be childish. So stop with the insults and start with the sourced information that needs to accompany adult discussion.

Thank you Harry for the constructive criticism.
Will chew on your words. :-)

Marsupial, I recon you are Ukrainian. Talking about Putin as a criminally insane is not constructive approach.


I don't know about U.S special force in Ukraine but a drop in prices of oil are a part of economical warfare aimed at Russia I presume.

Criminally insane may well be close to the mark. His behaviour and contempt for democracy and human rights is certainly verging on megalomaniac and being criminally insane is the norm for Russian rulers. As for the oil price being economic warfare, any effect on Russia is largely a windfall effect - the economic warfare is KSA v. Iran

I don't know about insane (the Soviets like Putin used that excuse to oppress people more than enough times), but criminal. I was in Petersburgh when Putin was in the ascendent (96-99), and place was like 1930s Chicago. One day, long in the future, it'll all come out.

Some academic analysis and thoughts regarding "Maidan Massacre" by Ivan Katchanowsky from University of Ottava.very interesting reading,long tho.tons of videos,evidences,ect :

academia.edu/8776021/The_Snipers_Massacre_on_the_Maidan_in_Ukraine

Criminally insane is what I said in order not to use expletives. I consider him and his brainwashed dills far worse than that. The poster above who said I am ukrainian....no I am not. Also how dare you use the phrase 'constructive criticism' in the same sentance as Putin. As if you are trying to say only ukis hate that reigime. The whole world thinks its garbage...everyone hates putin and views him as a derranged muppet. Hope he dies of aids.

Its always questionable what whole world thinks. Let`s not generalize. Take Obama, Bill Clinton, Sarcozy, Merkel or Tony Blair as examples. One can easily say how are they imbeciles or close to it. Some are maybe even total lunatics or maniacs. Still, those are just opinions and, it is fact that world must count on them, communicate with them.

Hm... Didn't you remember Vilnius'91 when reading this?

I like this one:

In the glaring illustration of the Ukraine, it is quite obvious what the Western Powers had planned all along. The Ukraine President even made a very unusual and heartfelt apology to his people for having not responded with decisiveness and strength to the unfolding government takeover.[1] This twitter-driven revolution happened so quickly during the Sochi Olympics that both he and Putin were seemingly blindsided.

Nevertheless, the world watched in horror as the CIA & Company pulled off yet another coup d'état in broad daylight. And now the initiated and informed among us reel in disbelief as Obama et al. predictably blame the innocent, and issue their predictable threats of retaliation

storyleak.com/ukraine-deception-useu-directed-coup-detat-exposes/#ixzz3SrvtzRkj

Yeah... There was something during Beijing Olympics as well... New tradition? Should Russia prepare their armed forces to act immediately during next Olytmpics?

Is that the interview he gave in Kharkiv after he fled Kyiv?


Well, he wasn't in Sochi when he signed the draconian laws which brought the people back to the streets in the middle of January. Therefore it is quite amusing how anyone could even think that the west waited with taking any action until Yanukovich went to Sochi. However, the more striking part of this sentence is that "he and Putin were blindsided". That would suggest that it is ok for Putin to have an influence on inner-Ukrainian issues, however, the west should stay out? Very interesting.


You will find that, if you would finally bother to educate yourself on the timelines and events of Euromaidan, no outside influence was needed in order to bring the Ukrainian people to the point at which they would accept nothing but Yanukovich's resignation.

Yes Jolly, you are totally right and everyone else is wrong.

Well, you could humor me with some facts and interesting opinions to discuss about but instead you follow up with "Yes Jolly, you are totally right and everyone else is wrong." . Now that really is impressive, i must admit :)

The only person I have to impress is myself.
Your questions don't interest me anymore so I have chose to ignore them.
How old are you ?

Old Polish joke (I do find it spot on):

A Brit meets a Pole and asks him:

-If You could shoot a German and a Russian without any consequences, which of them would You shoot first?

Pole answers without hesititation:

-A German!

Brit asks:

-Why so?

Pole replies:

-Duty comes first. Pleasure after.

This is Mustafa Nayem, the man who started the revolution.

readersupportednews.org/opinion2/277-75/22758-meet-the-americans-who-put-together-the-coup-in-kiev