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Ukraine Crisis... Poland... and the way i see it



Marsupial
28 Feb 2015  #2911

I agree he was done right there at the centre. That's pretty weird. It may come to pass yet that it was something other aside from politics.

Velund
28 Feb 2015  #2912

but here in Australia we definitely blame him and his stupid invasion for downing that plane over uki soil and killing innocent people.

Does anyone seen any official investigation reports? It is very convenient to "appoint" someone as guilty in press around the world, and then "investigate" the case forever.

By the way, some families of victims seek for international investigation led by UN .
japantimes.co.jp/news/2014/12/07/world/mh17-crash-victims-families-say-dutch-probe-failed-seek-u-n-investigation/#.VPF2K-HPr6p

Marsupial
28 Feb 2015  #2913

It doesn't matter what they find he will still be blamed. Simple reason....he invaded a country and.created a war zone which previously did not exist. He is still there occupying the same country. It doesn't matter who fired they would never fire anything had it not been for his pathetic war.

gregy741
28 Feb 2015  #2914

not a word in western media about Mikhail Chechetov death today...deputy of party of regions found dead.opposition leader in Ukraine:
pravda.com.ua/rus/news/2015/02/28/7060029

jon357
28 Feb 2015  #2915

Perhaps they're all too busy reporting yet another murder of a Putin critic:
mashable.com/2015/02/27/boris-nemtsov-dead

By the way gregy, your statement

not a word in western media about Michael Chechetov

is another of your lies. His suicide was reported.

gregy741
28 Feb 2015  #2916

. His suicide was reported

point me where is reported??not a word in all polish media,cant find anything in all major media...can you stop parroting harry?

Marsupial
28 Feb 2015  #2917

They just showed the murdered guy giving speeches and one of the things he said that he feared he may be murdered by Putin for opposing war. They than said that Putin will personally be in charge of the investigation. The whole thing went for 90 seconds.

gregy741
28 Feb 2015  #2918

is another of your lies. His suicide was reported.

jon? where was his death reported?still waiting.you wanted to be like your hero harry,and didnt work?

Jon357 i

His suicide was reported.

MVD Kravchenko, minister of transport Kirpi. previous mayor of Melitopol Sergei Valter , A. Bordgyuk, the second in command of the MVD, head of the State Property Valentina Semeniuk-Samsonenko...who are those people and what happened to them?

Harry
28 Feb 2015  #2919

Who reported his death? AFP for a start
zeenews.india.com/news/world/ally-of-ousted-ukraine-leader-found-dead-in-apparent-suicide_1554161.html

Poor gregy, yet again his fantasies are shown to be nothing but fantasies.

gregy741
28 Feb 2015  #2920

Poor gregy, yet again his fantasies are shown to be nothing but fantasies.[/quote]
zeenews.india.com
hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha nice harry,but you tried,give you that
local indian news...hahahahahahaha

Harry
28 Feb 2015  #2921

Oh dear, can it really be that gregy is too stupid to understand that AFP stands for Agence France-Presse, the oldest news agency in the world and one of the most respected too? Can even he be that stupid? Or is he simply trying to lie his way out of being caught lying by claiming that AFP is "local Indian news"?

gregy741
28 Feb 2015  #2922

what a farce them kiev stronkias are...good lord...
any more Harry...maybe some more from ivory coast?

Oh dear, can it really be that gregy is too stupid to understand that AFP stands for Agence France-Presse

but you linked to indian.com didnt you?or you are too stupid to even realize that?

Harry
28 Feb 2015  #2923

The text comes from AFP, gregy, that's why we can see the letters AFP at the end of the article. Is it possible for a person to be so moronic that they can't understand that?

You don't seem to have much luck when it comes to things French, do you? First you get caught claiming that Frenchmen who have never served a minute in the French army are serving French army officers, now you get caught claiming that Agence France-Presse is "local Indian news". Not your day, is it!

gregy741
28 Feb 2015  #2924

The text comes from AFP, gregy, that's why we can see the letters AFP at the end of the article. Is it possible for a person to be so moronic that they can't understand that?

but the report itself is from some indian site,or you are so stupid that not realize what you post here?,...i asked you about western media reporting death of major opposition leader,didnt i?

now you get caught claiming that Agence France-Presse is "local Indian news

when did i say that afp IS INDIAN? i said your link is...are you that stupid?

Harry
28 Feb 2015  #2925

No, gregy, the report does not come from "some Indian site". The report comes from AFP, Agence France-Presse, the oldest news agency in the world. Here is the same text this time reproduced by an Arabian Gulf newspaper's website

m.thepeninsulaqatar.com/news/latest-news/324295/ally-of-ousted-ukraine-leader-found-dead-in-apparent-suicide

And here it is from a Bulgarian website. Notice the bit about "AFP reports"?
focus-fen.net/news/2015/02/28/364610/ally-of-ousted-ukraine-leader-found-dead-in-apparent-suicide.html

gregy741
28 Feb 2015  #2926

No, gregy, the report does not come from "some Indian site".

YOU ARE REALLY THAT STUPID? I HELP YOU...even if afp noticed his dead,no major western media chosen to follow it and report death of so important politician..

i asked specifically about western media coverage...you giving me zeezee india.zee zee bulgaria,and quatar.;.
are you are intellectually disable?
are zeezee india ,focusten.bulgaria and penisulaquatar.com major western media chains?or you playing idiot?
even afp doesnt mention anything on their site:
afp.com/en/search/site/Mikhail%20Chechetov

Harry
28 Feb 2015  #2927

You didn't ask about it, you specifically claimed that there is "not a word in western media". And now you're reduced to trying to claim that Agence France-Presse is "local Indian news" and "some Indian site". Are you ever going to learn to not try to lie your way out when you get caught lying?

gregy741
28 Feb 2015  #2928

ou didn't ask about it, you specifically claimed that there is "not a word in western media".

you are lair Harry...pathetic lair post number #3,184 :

not a word in western media about Mikhail Chechetov death today...deputy of party of regions found dead.opposition leader in ukraine

you are one twisted liar,why dont you go and hide like your fanboy jon did?

And now you're reduced to trying to claim that Agence France-Presse is "local Indian news" and "some Indian site".

so where is AFP reporting his death?huh? on zee zee indian .com?

jon357
28 Feb 2015  #2929

If "hide" means not sitting online waiting for someone, then you've truly discovered a new meaning of the word. As for where the guy's suicide is reported, why not just google it; I did and found in seconds.

If you can't use the Internet, why are you posting so much on fora?

Harry
28 Feb 2015  #2930

Agence France-Presse will be reporting his death on their news-wire; that is where websites round the globe are taking the report from, as we can see from the fact that they all use the same words. But you want to claim that "the report itself is from some indian site": that is laughably pathetic, gregy, even by your very low standards.

johnny reb
28 Feb 2015  #2931

I have seen nothing on t.v. news about it yet today, on the local channels.
Maybe it's on CNN which I refuse to watch.

They just showed the murdered guy giving speeches and one of the things he said that he feared he may be murdered by putin for opposing war. They than said that putin will personally be in charge of the investigation. The whole thing went for 90 seconds.

Yup, that is exactly what we are seeing in the U.S. about Boris Nemtsov also.
A 90 second clip and that was it.
They are focusing in Jihad Jon who they want BAD.
Lots of news on him by the BBC.
That poor f-head is walking dead.
I hope they make a video of when he gets his head blown off by a 50 cal. so they can play it in slow motion, (like a watermelon exploding) on U-tube so his jihad nuts case allies sees what it looks like the second before Allah gives them

their 72 virgins.
The most news however is about Kim prepping for war..........AGAIN !

Unless something changes drastically russias future is with iran and north korea and other backward cretins.

Very well said. Stay tuned.

Harry
28 Feb 2015  #2932

Here you go Johnny, here's some conservative US media running the AFP report that gregy claims "is from some Indian site"
newsmax.com/world/europe/ukraine-crisis-politics-yanukovych/2015/02/28/id/627447

No comment needed here:
mobile.twitter.com/Novorossiya_PR/status/571676600841990144/photo/1

gregy741
28 Feb 2015  #2933

yup...even major western media like zee zee india dint comment it.not a word

Crow
28 Feb 2015  #2934

i have impression that west of Europe and USA humiliate Russia and Russians on the example of Ukraine. Putin is in danger to be seen as weakling, same as Yeltsin before him.

Roger5
28 Feb 2015  #2935

yup...even major western media like zee zee india dint comment it.not a word

What planet are you on? This story is everywhere.

johnny reb
28 Feb 2015  #2936

See, the Polish Forum now can go get information first hand instead of "I use to live there so I'm THE authority."

We now can quit calling each other liars.
This is the greatest thing since sliced bread was invented.

35,000 INDIVIDUALS HAVE REPORTEDLY SIGNED UP TO JOIN UKRAINE'S 'INFORMATION ARMY'
Russia's vast state media sector has been embroiled in what has been referred to as an "information war" with Kiev and Western outlets since the beginning of the Ukrainian conflict, offering differing interpretations of the Ukrainian revolution and subsequent war in the east of the country.

The new initiative, which seeks to mobilise Ukrainian bloggers to post their accounts of the war online, was made live earlier this month in a bid to counter Russian propaganda coverage of the conflict.

They may have got the idea from reading the Polish Forum's accurate reporting. :-)

JollyRomek
28 Feb 2015  #2937

See, the Polish Forum now can go get information first hand instead of "I use to live there so I'm THE authority."

You see Johnny, your interpretation of what I have said, when I mentioned that I used to live in Donetsk, and reality are two different things. Just like anything else appears to be different in reality compared to what you believe it actually is or means.

I do not by any means feel as if I was "the authority" on this topic but giving the fact that I have spent 3 years in Donetsk, have gotten to know the Ukrainian people, both in east and west, very well over that period of time and still keep a very close / daily contact to most of my friends there, I do feel to have at least a slight advantage over you regarding this topic. Not because I simply assume to be "the authority" but because of my own personal experience in the subject country. While you however probably never set foot into Ukraine and probably never will, taking your information from blogs which contradict each other and then post them here as facts.

point me where is reported??not a word in all polish media,cant find anything in all major media.

Either you are incapable of reading Polish news or you are a liar. There are several Polish media outlets which have reported on the suicide. One of which is TVN

tvn24.pl/samobojstwo-polityka-z-partii-janukowycza,519739,s.html

gregy741
1 Mar 2015  #2938

Either you are incapable of reading Polish news or you are a liar. There are several Polish media outlets which have reported on the suicide. One of which is TVN

report appeared yesterday at 3pm,,5 hours after i wrote,,looks like you are lair...i bet his suicide was similar to those mass suicides in odessa trade center

What planet are you on? This story is everywhere.

lol,at ppl who dont understand sarcasm ...you funny..careful you might get stomach ulcers from that barking

MediaWatch
1 Mar 2015  #2939

Merged: It appears that Pro-Putin Moscow thugs killed opposition leader Boris Nemtsov

Poroshenko: Boris Nemtsov Killed Over Evidence Linking Russia To Ukraine Conflict

huffingtonpost.com/2015/02/28/poroshenko-boris-nemtsov_n_6774976.html?cps=gravity_2684_-7401792228569978309

polishamericanreview.com/par2_017.htm

Roger5
1 Mar 2015  #2940

If that's why he died, it was even more of a waste. If Russia hasn't been sending armaments and men to the separatists for the last year, keeping the fighters fully equipped with materiel, who the hell has? Only the seriously hard of thinking need more evidence.


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