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Rich Mazur
2 Nov 2018  #211

From foxnews.com:
A dozen migrants traveling by foot from Honduras to the U.S. to seek asylum filed a class-action lawsuit Thursday against President Trump, the Department of Homeland Security and others, claiming a violation of their due process under the Fifth Amendment.

They did this because the US is an asylum run by the inmates.

Bratwurst Boy
2 Nov 2018  #212

What exactly is in the fifth amendment?

johnny reb
2 Nov 2018  #213

Basically it says that defendants cannot be compelled to become witnesses at their own trials.
My question to the immigrants that have filed these cases is, since you are not a U.S. citizen then why do you think you are covered under the U.S. Constitution ?

You have no rights here in the United States pal, go back home and demand these rights from your own government and see how far you get. lol

Take a hint, Go home, we do not want you !

TheOther
2 Nov 2018  #214

The situation at the southern border is not a full blown war like Vietnam or Iraq for example. It will be much easier to keep the troops (and their attitude towards civilians) under control than in real combat.

these pampered Snowflakes and ex-pats here are clueless of what war is.

So tell us, Mr. Bigmouth, did you serve? Because the handbook I linked to is an official one of the U.S. military. Are you saying that the U.S. military is clueless about what war is?

My predictions if they do.

Your predictions, except for the Pelosi part, are exactly what will happen if the RepubliCons are allowed to continue uncontrolled and unrestricted.

Rich Mazur
2 Nov 2018  #215

Fear nothing. "RepubliCons" are spineless "gentlemen" incapable of governing. Their role is to be a "loyal opposition". They had almost 10 years to come up with a replacement for the Obongocare and did absolutely nothing while controlling everything.

Now, I am going to the bathroom to barf.

TheOther
2 Nov 2018  #216

I am going to the bathroom to barf.

That will be your only option once they strip away your "entitlements" that you've paid for all your life... :)

Rich Mazur
2 Nov 2018  #217

I am aware of this race to my grave. Luckily, that moment is closer and closer...

Rich Mazur
2 Nov 2018  #218

From cnbc.com:
The world's first humanless warehouse is run only by robots and is a model for the future
...and that is why the US so desperately needs the poor, the downtrodden, and the uneducated Latino scum to design, build, and maintain those robots - something the lazy Americans just will not do, no matter the pay and the benefits. Bad Americans.

TheOther
2 Nov 2018  #219

something the lazy Americans just will not do

Forget warehouses. Who will harvest our fruit and veggies?

Rich Mazur
2 Nov 2018  #220

The same kind of people who did it before the Latino sewer flowing into the US became the new normal. And the same kind of people who do it in South Korea, Japan, Poland, Hungary, Bulgaria, Romania, Canada, now and 50 years ago.

Or the machines. Do you know that it took 30% to feed the US way back and now it takes only 3% of the US population to do the same job on the US farms?

Can I stop now?

Rich Mazur
2 Nov 2018  #221

Walking softly back... From dailymail:

'I didn't say shoot!' he insisted, while pledging that migrants throwing rocks at American soldiers will 'be arrested for a long time'
He said ICE and U.S. Border Patrol agents would be doing the apprehending


No, Mr. President, we don't "arrest people for a long time". We arrest them until trial if not out on bond.

Secondly, the Latino garbage is doing everything in their power to be "apprehended", arrested, detained, or whatever. Duh! So, what's that nonsense with the US "army" at the border?

TheOther
2 Nov 2018  #222

The same kind of people who did it before the Latino

These people are now 70+ years old. Too old for the back breaking work in the fields. Their offspring? Unwilling to do hard manual labor for minimum wage anymore. They'd rather sit on their fat asses, pop some oxys and wait for the coal mines to return while living on government handouts.

machines

There are some things that machines will never be able to do. Harvesting certain fruit and vegetables amongst them.

Walking softly back.

As expected.

Rich Mazur
3 Nov 2018  #223

Harvesting certain fruit and vegetables amongst them.

OK, if absolutely necessary, let some foreigners in for a limited time to do specific work and out they go when the work is done. No green cards. No citizenship. No food stamp. No medical care at the taxpayers' expense. Only men, only white, and only after they sign a waver not to change the conditions of their stay, and a promise not to sue the US or state governments under any circumstances resulting from them breaking our laws, including immediate and automatic order of deportation without any hearings and lawyers for the first DUI or a felony.

So, there is my solution to the alleged labor shortage.
BTW, you still didn't comment how they harvest things today in Japan, Korea, and all those countries I listed in my post on the subject.

TheOther
3 Nov 2018  #224

you still didn't comment how they harvest things today in Japan, Korea, and all those countries

I didn't comment because I had no idea how they handle labor shortages in agriculture and other sectors. A quick google brought up this article. Looks like they are using foreign workers just like us as one would expect.

nytimes.com/2017/02/10/business/japan-immigrants-workers-trump.html

Rich Mazur
3 Nov 2018  #225

Looks like they are using foreign workers just like us as one would expect.

Lemme guess: no anchor babies or "path to citizenship".

TheOther
3 Nov 2018  #226

Don't know about their immigration laws, but they are not on the list of "jus soli" countries.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jus_soli

johnny reb
3 Nov 2018  #227

Are you saying that the U.S. military is clueless about what war is?

No you are............ as I said.

these pampered Snowflakes and ex-pats here are clueless of what war is.

Why are you trying to confuse the dead weight here with the U.S. military ?
Did I hit a nerve with you again.

Your predictions are exactly what will happen if the RepubliCons are allowed to continue uncontrolled and unrestricted.

Not true, the RepubliCons are the ones that got the economy going again after eight years of failures by the Dumbocrats.
My gosh son just look at the stock market, the employment rate, the tax cuts, more Blacks then any time in history employed, more people with home ownership, 13 million less people on food stamps, on and on the great success Trump has been.

(Remember obozo. "ah, ah, ah where is he going to get all these jobs, wave a wand".)
Trump did what Hussain couldn't.

If the House goes back to the Dumbocrats then expect the same failures again.
Trump has jump started the economy which has made the Dumbocrats and their policies look bad, very bad and that is why they are so desperate to get rid of him.

Trump has made tax cuts where the Dumbs will raise taxes AGAIN and put people back on welfare and more people out on the streets while the stock market tanks.

That is why it is so important that the Mob not win the House.

Rich Mazur
3 Nov 2018  #228

1. Stock market does not create wealth. It's only an indicator that the stock companies are or will be doing well.

2. Unemployment figures do not tell how many full-time plus benefits jobs capable of supporting a family of four have been added. A 10 per hour job is not a job.

3. Tax cuts are a temporary relief. The federal deficit and the debt is greater than under Obongo. One day, that debt will have to be paid back. In that sense, it's a bucket down the road kicking exercise.

4. The US military is not capable of winning and concluding wars. They are just militarized form of police with the rules of engagement that border on insanity and in search of a mission to justify the mind blowing cost to the US taxpayers. Hence, ISIS, Taliban, and now a base in Poland.

TheOther
3 Nov 2018  #229

RepubliCons are the ones that got the economy going again

Facepalm. No, double facepalm!

Stock market does not create wealth. A 10 per hour job is not a job. Tax cuts are a temporary relief

Too many facts for our Trump followers to compute.

No you are

So you didn't serve. That's what I thought, Donald. What was your excuse? Bonespurs? LOL!

johnny reb
4 Nov 2018  #230

If I were you I would be hiding my face too if I were you.
The obama recovery of his last seven years remains the worst in postwar American history.
Average gross domestic product (GDP) growth since the bottom of the recession in 2009 was barely above 2.1% per year.
This result is not just bad, it is catastrophic.
I believe this is due to obama's huge tax increases.
When obama was elected in 2008, the DOW stood at 9,600.
Immediately the DOW began to tank and by 2009, the DOW could go down no further as it hit 6,500 for a decrease of more than 30%.
The same thing will happen if the Dems win the House back, mark my words, just watch.
Trump's first year in office (2017) saw the most all time stock market closing highs (71) as well as the largest increase in DOW history.
obama never came close to that in his eight years.
So do all the palm plants you want as they do not change the fact Trump is making the Dems look bad, very bad with his tremendous successful policies.

Trump had tax cuts while obama had tax increases.
obama doubled the National Debt to boot and incurred as much debt as all previous Presidents combined.
President Trump is slowing that trend but you won't see the drive by bias Liberal media reporting that will you. lol
You are brain dead by severe brainwashing by the Left son.
No wonder you do face plants.
As far as my military service, I already explained that to Harry once and I wish I would not have shared my personal life and won't do it again here.

You are the last person I have to defend myself to. lol
How about you, so your skin is brown.

Rich Mazur
4 Nov 2018  #231

The Trump tax cut went into effect at the end of 2017. In the first 9 months of 2018, the national debt went up 1 trillion. Extrapolating to the full year, the national debt will increase by 1.3 trillion. There are 150 million employed Americans. Dividing 1.3 trillion by 150 million produces $8600 per person of debt for the year 2018. That is the amount that should have been paid in the ADDITIONAL federal income tax but wasn't.

Enjoy your tax cut and prosperity, Americans. Just don't tell your kids how you got it.

tradingeconomics.com/united-states/government-debt

johnny reb
4 Nov 2018  #232

In the first 9 months of 2018, the national debt went up 1 trillion.

Not bad compared to the previous eight years.
In his first 600 days obama increased the amount of US debt by $2.8 trillion.
In his first 600 days, in spite of increasing interest rates and the massive debt that he inherited, Trump's debt increase is around half that of obama's ($1.5 trillion).

As a result, the debt to GDP ratio is going down.
obama increased the US debt to GDP ratio by 40% from around 60% in 2009 to over 100% in 2016.
With his increasing GDP and slowing of debt increases, Trump has managed to decrease the debt to GDP ratio in his first 600 days in office.

This is a very good result that is rarely mentioned by the drive by bias Liberal media.

Enjoy your tax cut and prosperity, Americans.

Oh we are Ruskie Rich.......well until Tuesday anyways when the Dems take the House back and then everything will come to a stand still again like we had in obama's eight stagnant years.

Just don't tell your kids how you got it.

I am sure the Liberals will leave it out of the history books in our schools to dumb down our kids like they have with so much other American history that has been deleted from our children's history books.

I was looking through one of the kids history books and there was one page on Abraham Lincoln and a whole chapter on Bill (Slick Willie) Clinton.

Our kids will never know the truth about "Slick Willie" or the truth how they inherited such a debt.
It will be "Trumps" fault" as usual. lol

Rich Mazur
4 Nov 2018  #233

None of this changes the facts that the American prosperity is a balloon filled with funny gas and that the states' pension funds are in the red to the tune of trillions. Illinois is short of 130 billion in their pension fund. Add to this the fact that the average Americans retires with about 30 grand net worth excluding the house and you get the picture.

Bratwurst Boy
4 Nov 2018  #234

I never heard of that...

Next time Dirk waxes on about muslimic Germany I may point him to "Shariaville" near Detroit! ;)

...The sound of church bells has given way to the chant of a Muslim holy man giving the call to prayer in Arabic.

Many of the storefronts have been converted to mosques......

wnd.com/2015/11/u-s-cities-surrendering-to-shariah

There is nothing comparable in Germany!

Rich Mazur
4 Nov 2018  #235

To compare, one would have to live in both. I-net alone is not good enough.
The political correctness in the US when Muslims are the subject is beyond the barf point. I just started watching Designated Survivor. I lasted till Episode 4 feeling worse by the minute. When they told me that Muslims are nice and whites are evil, I was done. F*** you, liberals.

Marek_Cz
4 Nov 2018  #236

They'd rather sit on their fat asses, pop some oxys and wait for the coal mines to return while living on government handouts.

Yes, these welfare Democrats are about one election away from losing their food stamps, especially the illegal scum that has infiltrated the border and is HUGE burden on our economy.

I love how the Dems only talking point is healthcare now, its because they don't have squat to run on, only 2 years of ridiciolus obstruction and lies. Only if they opened their eyes and realized if we didn't have millions of illegals abusing the healthcare system and using the emergency room as their own personal physicians, we all would have decent, affordable Insurance.

I was looking through one of the kids history books and there was one page on Abraham Lincoln and a whole chapter on Bill (Slick Willie) Clinton.

Its a total disgrace how the liberals took over the schools and brainwashed the kids to be sheeple.

Hopefully, this coming Tuesday the will lose another election and of course Trump is going to win in 2020, after him, think Rep or Independent , down with Dems

Rich Mazur
4 Nov 2018  #237

I hope for the same. But look at the results so far: federal debt growing at the same rate as Obongo's last two years. Wall? No wall. Illegal crossings - all time high. Afghanistan - still there. NATO - expanding. Trade deficit - no change or worse. Obongocare - no change and none is coming. Interest rates - going up. Inflation - going up. Stock market - higher, but it does not change the standard of living. In fact, it may cause people to save less and spend more because they feel 401(k) rich.

My prediction: Dems will win big because of the above and because Americans are morons.
I hope I am wrong on the former.

johnny reb
5 Nov 2018  #238

: federal debt growing at the same rate as Obongo's last two years. Wall? No wall. Illegal crossings - all time high.

Federal debt is what it is because Trump had to rebuild the military back up that obongo ran into the ground with cuts from it, Wall, who is throwing the monkey wrench into that ? not Trump by any means, Illegal crossings are down last I heard, Afganistan, why are the poppy fields that produce opium off limits to our military ?$$$$$$$

NATO, again huge military contracts $$$$$,

Trade deficit - no change or worse.

No but it sure put China's economy into a tail spin didn't it, obongo care, again, who's fault is that ?
Interest rates going up....FIANALLY I can start making some interest on my cash in my banks, inflation is going to really go up once the stock market tanks if the Dems take the House back,

Stock market - higher, but it does not change the standard of living.

The hell it doesn't, I have made enough in the stock market to buy a new Toyota Highlander Platinum and pay cash for it in just the last nine months.

People in no way feel 401k rich as they are just getting back to even after they lost so much in the 2008 crash when obongo took office.

Your words certainly confirm a Russian propaganda troll Rich.

Rich Mazur
5 Nov 2018  #239

Federal debt is what it is because Trump had to rebuild the military back up that obongo ran into the ground with cuts from it

I don't mind a joke or two thrown into a debate, but to call the US military budget in 2016 as "ran into the ground" is not funny. This insanity, the DoD budget, was then about 40% of ALL the world's military budgets COMBINED. What would you want it to be? 80%?

Who is that enemy of the US that would justify even more money (which we don't have, btw) spent on an army playing world cops everywhere except where it's needed - here?

Can you name it? Neither can I.

Joker
5 Nov 2018  #240

I don't mind a joke or two thrown into a debate

Then get ready for the return of Barbara Striesand, and her new anti-Trump album.

hollywoodreporter.com/news/barbara-streisand-discusses-anti-trump-political-album-walls-1156515

And her song" "Trump is making me gain weight"

youtu.be/rYhhyenzATU

Its just unbelievable the amount of rubbish that hollywood spews out.

She should do a duet with Hanoi Jane! LOL


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