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USA News and Poland - Part 1



Rich Mazur
4 Apr 2019  #61

Just as likely as that there will be a companion bill to subtract the trillions we spent on their welfare, fatherless bastards, incarceration, rapes and murders, affirmative action discrimination, and the grants for to the race hustlers.

Bratwurst Boy
4 Apr 2019  #62

...meaning not very likely...

Rich Mazur
4 Apr 2019  #63

As with the global warming idiocy, everybody is full of hot air until it's time to discuss the specifics of how much, who pays and who gets it.

Those "how much" or "how many" questions are my favorites as the best and the surest way to win any argument with the brainless leftists, the species known to be notoriously unable to think past the feel-good step one.

Joker
5 Apr 2019  #64

AOC and the other crazy libtards just don't seem to understand that if China and India refuses to climb onboard and stop polluting, its doesnt matter what the USA does.

Our air quality is good compared to the rest of the world.

waqi.info

I hope the looney leftists run on the new green deal platform in 2020, it will be hilarious watching Trump rip them a new Ahole. lol

The Dems kept digging themselves into a ditch and just watch this subpoena nonsense to obtain the muller report will totally backfire in their faces, of course they will never be satisfied with any outcome, unless its in their favor. They will keep wanting more, like notes, recordings, etc.... Only to try and relitigate the Mueller probe and latch to any possibility, no matter how slim or ridiculous it may be.

TheOther
5 Apr 2019  #65

...if China and India refuses to climb onboard and stop polluting, its doesnt matter what the USA does

What a nonsense argument. You don't care about clean air and water at home? You prefer to live right next to a coal fired power plant?

Rich Mazur
5 Apr 2019  #66

Trump has achieved what no other US president managed so far - alienated his base in just short two years with no prospect of any change in sight.

With Obama in the WH, the anticipation that the next president will turn things around and put the US on the path leading away from the cliff was alive and a source of optimism.

Today, we know that this dream dead, and that, without any doubt, it turned into a depressing nightmare not because things didn't improve fast enough but because everything that matters to the conservatives got dramatically worse. When, by comparison, Obama looks good, we have a problem.

TheOther
6 Apr 2019  #67

Trump has achieved what no other US president managed so far ...

... to divide the country beyond repair. True conservatism is dead, and Trump and McConnell killed it. When he's gone, whether that will be next year or in five doesn't matter, the GOP will be known as the party over country, the land of the crooks and the home of the 1%. No one in his right mind will vote for them ever again. Or maybe they will, knowing that Americans have a very short memory...

Rich Mazur
6 Apr 2019  #68

the GOP will be known as the party over country

That distinction belongs to the leftists with their open borders, treasonous obfuscation in Congress, catch and release policy, visa lottery, and the chain migration.
The RINO's will be forever remembered as a party of gutless, spineless, country club "gentlemen" who, even when they have all three, are unable to govern and gladly eat their own.

My prediction: Trump is the last RINO president. The US, just like the major US cities and Mexico, will soon be a one-party country with the look and feel of Brazil. Only then, with the elections as mere formality, the Democrats will be able to close the borders, deport the Latino scum no longer needed for the votes and, finally, like the Chinese communists, be patriots. The end of the scam we call "democracy" and "voting" will be the beginning of the American revival.

TheOther
6 Apr 2019  #69

It's a clever scheme by Republicans and Democrats to leave American citizens under the impression that they would waste their vote if they'd choose a candidate from a third party in an election. That way they managed to cling to power and take turns in governing the country since forever. No wonder they are all corrupt to the core. A one-party system is certainly not something we should hope for. It would be the end of America.

Rich Mazur
6 Apr 2019  #70

It's a clever scheme by Republicans and Democrats...

Talk about collusion. These two conspired, colluded, schemed, and did everything possible to keep their monopoly of power, while pretending that they are opposition parties. Like during army exercises, they are "blue" and "red" to bs the gullible. When all the "shooting" and shouting stops, they are the best of friends.

I am not afraid of the US becoming one-party. We already have that: a corrupt ruling elite. China is a one-party country and they are doing fine and getting richer and stronger at our expense. The commies in China just told their "voters" to make all the money they can and not even think about political power. I would be fine with that.

A two-party system and voting is a joke and destined to fail. That is why private corporations are basically autocratic organizations. Otherwise, the employees would pass themselves raises that would bankrupt them.

Bratwurst Boy
6 Apr 2019  #71

Interesting!

petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/petition-president-donald-trump-assisting-poland-obtaining-war-reparations-germany-and-russia

A polish petition to ask US Trump for support in the case of german reparations gained only 7019 subscribers, needed had been 100.000.

Was that petition not well enough promoted (even as this topic keeps to be trodded out regularly by PiS politicians) or is the general interest in Poland really that low?

And what does that mean for the "November 11" movement?

ruch11listopada.pl/en/main/nov-11-mov-appeals-usa-assistance-obtaining-war-reparations-from-germany-russia/

Ironside
6 Apr 2019  #72

Was that petition not well enough promoted

Most likely as it is supported by some rather obscure Internet TV. Some people might feel that such a petition of Polish citizens to American President is kinda pointless and pathetic and if anything a proper diplomatic channels should be used.

the "November 11" movement?

Well, it means that they have no much support. It is movement that takes its inspiration in American Evangelists, has direct ties to them and promote it in Poland. They have their church and a pastor and are kind of copy planted on the Polish ground.

the ,11 November' is a political emanation of that movement. They are a political party.

The only good thing I can say about them, they are all pro-guns.

Bratwurst Boy
6 Apr 2019  #73

Why "November 11"? What happened on that date?

Ironside
6 Apr 2019  #74

a national day in Poland celebrated on 11 November to commemorate the anniversary of the restoration of Poland's sovereignty as the Second Polish Republic in 1918


delphiandomine
6 Apr 2019  #75

is the general interest in Poland really that low?

No-one cares about it, with the exception of deluded right wingers who PiS are trying to keep within their big tent so that they don't start their own loony right wing grouping as they did many times in the past.

And what does that mean for the "November 11" movement?

They're just laughable and not worth paying attention to.

Rich Mazur
7 Apr 2019  #76

right wingers

What are is "right wingers" other than "deluded" and "loony"?

jon357
7 Apr 2019  #77

Paranoid and perpetually fearful.

Rich Mazur
7 Apr 2019  #78

right wingers

What are "right wingers"? What does it mean?

Lyzko
7 Apr 2019  #79

Don't play psychology, Rich! You know damn well what he means, so kindly dispense with the dumb-dumb act.
We all know that it is nearly always the far-right who chose violence, whereas the lefties will almost only counter such aggression with similar methods when it becomes absolutely necessary.

Look at the Trump-supporter rallies prior to his becoming president and how many egged on those few liberals in the crowd. Even the meekest and nicest among us will eventually put up his dukes if pushed to the wall, pal! Everybody has a breaking point:-)

Rich Mazur
7 Apr 2019  #80

Look at the Trump-supporter rallies prior to his becoming president

BS. He did not mean the US, Trump or his followers.

We all know that it is nearly always the far-right who chose violence,

"Nearly" is a nice escape word. So Europe has violent "far-right"? Any examples? If so, please, skip the individual sickos. When you wrote "far-write" you meant a large number of people, not a couple of bad dudes.

If you want to make me laugh, tell me a joke, not this nonsense.

pawian
7 Apr 2019  #81

But why is it that all individual sickos admitted they had been influenced by rightist ideology?

Rich Mazur
7 Apr 2019  #82

For the same reason why ANTIFA is influenced by their hate of the US and their love of Soros money and Marxist manifestos. To prevent uninterrupted fact-based debates, on cue, they scream, heckle, violently attack conservative speakers, riot, break windows, set cars on fire, and shot cops.

The less violent, harass you while with your kids having dinner. I guess that's the new normal for the leftists so why bother.

BTW, what is "rightist ideology"? One paragraph will do fine.

delphiandomine
7 Apr 2019  #83

But why is it that all individual sickos admitted they had been influenced by rightist ideology?

Largely because the ideology lends itself to hatred, isolation, despair and the need for revenge.

Rich Mazur
7 Apr 2019  #84

I agree. Class envy, socialism, and communism do it even to reasonable people. Teachers included.

jon357
7 Apr 2019  #85

hatred, isolation, despair and the need for revenge.

It lends itself to that and it originates from it; a vicious circle. Look at some of the working-class 'maga hat' wearers who actually vote republican! Like turkeys voting for Christmas.

delphiandomine
7 Apr 2019  #86

It's one of the strangest things about US politics - those who have little actively vote for those who want to take even that little away from them, while those who want to help them are branded "communist".

Rich Mazur
7 Apr 2019  #87

No, geniuses. The blue collar "unwashed" voted for Trump because they saw their standard of living collapse for two reasons: (1) their jobs leaving and (2) the cheap and twice illegal labor coming. I wrote "twice" because they break a federal law coming and another federal law working. In between those two, these bastards steal our identities and get fake Social Security cards - both federal felonies.

To add injury to the insult, the unemployed see their little Latino bastards educated and treated at our expense while they are going broke and under.

jon357
7 Apr 2019  #88

because they saw their standard of living collapse

So capitalism impoverishes them and they vote for more of irt!

All the better for the rest of us...

pawian
7 Apr 2019  #89

BTW, what is "rightist ideology"? One paragraph will do fine.

You are as forgetful as me, it seems. :) https://polishforums.com/life/decent-poles-think-true-rightists-84619/

Rich Mazur
7 Apr 2019  #90

Capitalism works. It's the socialism that makes everybody poorer. Except, of course, those on top who are more special. I know. I lived there.

They were impoverished because of the collusion between the capitalists and their corrupt who*res in the DC that allowed the former to pack up and go to Mexico and China. It's called crony capitalism.

Do you know why Mexico loved NAFTA from day one and the US capitalists running their factories there? If you don't...

Never mind.


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