USA News and Poland - Part 5

Hey, Sheriff-Moderator, you should be the first one to observe the forum rules. Since I am "mentally ill", I don't have to.

LOL!!!!!
This idiot just doesn't understand.... You are wasted on him....


A sane man talking.


An insane man talking.

From AP:

Bilmes calculates the U.S. will spend more than $2 trillion just caring for and supporting Afghanistan and Iraq veterans as they age, with costs peaking 30 years to 40 years from now.

That's on top of $1 trillion in Pentagon and State Department costs in Afghanistan since 2001. Because the U.S. borrowed rather than raised taxes to pay for the Afghanistan and Iraq wars, interest payments are estimated to cost succeeding generations of Americans trillions of dollars more still.

So, one more time, anyone who enlists to "serve" under the scum that gave the US Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan is a moron - or at least a useful idiot.

Did you catch that, Sheriff?

Job security.


Not as much as student debt though is it.
You have to look at the bright side of life.
Did you catch that, Captain Happy ?

Afghanistan is a dress rehearsal for the US. Quoting from Axios.com:

By the numbers: White, non-Hispanic Americans are about 58% of the U.S. population, according to data from the 2020 census released on Thursday. That's lower than the estimates of 60%, and it compares with about 64% in 2010.

Soon, there will be a mad rush to ...Oh, there is no place to run to, you stupid wall-hating, Bolshevik-loving Americans,... Sorry, get used to it.

Now I feel sorry for the American military swamp...How to convince Biden or Congress to find the next sh*ithole deep enough to swallow another trillion and 3000 men.

What a drag...No place to go killing, no place to do some good American dying for my freedom, no place to bring "democracy" to...Booooooring...and what about the DoD contractors? They have families and mortgages to pay. Come on...We got to do something...How about Crimea...Or gay rights in Russia...

I hate to do it to you, Poles, but you buddy and protector, the US, just got its ass kicked by the guys with no artillery, no tanks, not even a single Wright Brothers-grade aircraft - only with old AK's and not much more.

Oops, sorry, they now have what the US left for them as a parting gift - the gift the US was hoping the "democratic" forces would use to accomplish what the world's biggest and the bestest superpower could not.

Not that the USSR managed to do any better...

This comment is so good I have to share it with this forum. From dailymail.com

Just remember this one fact how crazy the US has become the Taliban have a Twitter account and Donald Trump is banned from Twitter

That's where we are now in these Insane States of America today. You can't make this sh*it up, as they say...

Well, a large majority of Afghanis have no problems with Taliban rule (a simple fact which outsiders cannot... deal with). One reason their sweep through the country was so rapid was that most Afghan people.... were okay with it and so no point in resisting people who were in line with their values...

Also, probably China was helping them (why haven't media reported the China-Taliban... alliance for lack of a better word?).

It will be interesting to see how China deals with Afghanistan.... the alchemy of countries, everybody thinks they have the secret magic to succeed (and turn it into a civilized country) where others have failed...

I doubt that! Especially not the women who had a taste how life could be with education and the right to work and just have a life to speak of generally.

The problem is in the rest of the country there is no real leadership. The Taliban have a cause, a religious vision, behind their dream of an islamist society all the different clans and tribes can gather.

But beyond that it is still a tribal society...where tribe leader and clans negotiate things between them...the gov in Kabul is far away, paid and bought by the West, and now it's leader just flew...like the biggest coward. Why should the common Afghani stay and fight? Who will lead them? Who will unify them? There is just nobody! Its every tribe, every family clan for itself...and fractured like that they are easy pie even for a small, but determined and unified force!

I'm sure with a real leader, who could unify the tribes, who could get all tribes leader behind him, they would fight and they would win, they have the numbers and the equipment. But these structures just aren't there. Afghanistan isn't a real country with our measures.

In that regard the US and the West didn't get "its ass kicked"....it was never a war to be won by us....it was a naive error wanting to believe Afghanistan, the people there work like us...the only way we would have changed the outcome would have been to colonize that territory, to incorporate them into another functioning real state with working institutions, to do the work nobody else there can.

Maybe China has the will to go that far...

I have to agree with BB and tell you this is not true,maybe in rural areas but not in the towns and cities.


I think they will.

"the Taliban have a cause, a religious vision"

like choosing to go into ****?

What percentage of Aghanistan is urban? IINM it's about 75% rural... so.....

@mafketis

Point taken.

But if you have seen the news today there seems to be an awful lot of Afghans who are literally dying to get out of the country.

Maybe Britain will fly in and save them in a relief effort.

Biden is by far the worst President this country has ever seen. He is a total disaster to put it mildly.

They're going to give the Taliban leadership a bunch of money for mining rights and access to other raw materials. Afghanistan is sitting on trillions worth of emeralds, copper, gold, iron, lithium - all sorts of ****. Right now they're using the most primitive mining methods literally blasting mountains with dynamite and sifting through the remains by hand. Or they'll do the same thing they did with a bunch of African countries and even a handful in Europe - offer to build infrastructure on credit and if they can't pay up they'll take over ports, airports, swathes of land, etc.


I'm sure the United Kaliphate will be more than happy to take them in like they do with every other third worlder that knocks on their doors. They'll give them an apartment, food, benefits/job seekers allowance that amounts to more money in a month than they'd make in 5 years back in Afghanistan.

I'm sure that the people who think it's a good idea to hang onto landing gear as an airplane is about to take off will really be a major contribution to their new home.

The Biden backlash starts here.......... condemnation from the right as well as the left.

What should he have done? Stay for another 20 years?

Its rather brave to make a clear cut now, accepting the critic from all these smart-asses...instead bumbling on further, risking even more soldiers lives, knowing full well that there still will be nothing good come out of it in the end....like Obama...and Trump....and Merkel....

The American drama is the Americans themselves, not corporate greed. All corporations are "greedy" because that's why exist - to be greedy.

The US has a unique problem with individual people who combine the messiah complex and their generosity, on one hand, with a lack of historical perspective as all things in their lives are local and are based on High Noon and The Magnificent Seven kind of movies where the unselfish brave come to the rescue of the oppressed.

They risk their lives but never get paid.

This is how the average schmuck was sold the idea of going to Afghanistan - to help little girls to go to school, build roads and hospitals, and "democracy". All that without any payback. That would be immoral. To pacify the less trusting, the swamp spread the lies about "our freedoms" as an answer to "what's in it for me" and an ender to any further questions like that.

In Iraq, they expected to be greeted with flowers - like in Paris. Music. The End.

....sometimes I think the "nation building" the allies did in Germany after WWII is still some kind of ideal....as if people everwhere are the same underneath all....

I remember Germany being used as an example by the proponents of the Iraq invasion!

But that naivete should end now....after the mess of Iraq....and Libya...and now Afghanistan...it just doesn't work that way.

That's going to be tough. I mean like telling Americans that the Magnificent Seven were idiots or that Mary was no virgin. That would be cruel.

...the people are ready.....in Germany at least they are. As the political comments are all screaming and judging the overwhelming majority of the comments by the readers see it like it is...

"It's enough!"

"Never again!"

"About time we get out!"

And the most important question:

"If they don't want to fight for their own country why should we?"

Another American insanity...The Taliban leader spent 8 years in Gitmo and somehow didn't kill himself or succumbed to an undisclosed illness.

I wonder how many Americans he or his buddied killed since release and how much money we have spent to keep him in good spirits and health.

Another one lost his leg killing Americans, got caught so we promptly gave him a new leg for 75 grand. Then, being nice guys that we are, we let him go - with that leg, of course - to go back home and continue killing Americans.

That is why enlisting and dying for this country is beyond moronic.


Feel free to post my comment:

Next time, let's sell guns and ammo to both sides and let them kill each other all they want.

What Afghanistan needs right now is a 10 trillion dollar Marshall Plan to make it at least as modern as Pakistan.
Are you listening, Joe?
While the construction is underway, we should bring them all here - just for now, of course. That dust and noise...

That won't go through so easily....but that thought is in many heads right now for sure! ;)

So I am not the only genius? If it is ever implemented, let's get paid upfront.

The only thing that would make me feel better would be a Nuremberg-type trial and the executions of the American and the British criminals who ignored Vietnam and gave us Afghanistan.

And Pope? Patriarch of Constantinople?

Are they innocent?

@Novichok

The Taliban taking over is one thing. In fact, I applaud them. Hopefully one day we can overthrow our zionist oppressors and return to a state where whites are thriving again.

Thing that worries me though is that now there's going to be another deluge of migrants. Of course the Germany, France, etc. is going to take in masses. And once they see that the Afghanis are coming in and being given food, shelter, and money then every Ahmen and Mohammed along with their 10 kids is going to want to come. It'll be like 2015 all over again.

At least the one country that hasn't totally lost their mind, Hungary, has already stated that they're not going to take in any of these Afghanis. Naturally, the leftists and the wahmen who love brown d!ck got their panties in a twist.

Look to Belgrade, the Whitetown. No racism, no hate on others, just our rights. Our rights.