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johnny reb
12 Sep 2021  #1921

I wonder until today how was collaps of WTC 7 possible?....It wasn't.

No it was not as this building was not even hit by a jet.
Building 7 was the third skyscraper to be reduced to rubble on September 11, 2001.
According to the government, fires, primarily, leveled this building, but fires have never before or since destroyed a steel skyscraper.
Even with the WTC towers, jet fuel simply does not burn hot enough to melt steel.
The team that investigated the collapse were kept away from the crime scene.
By the time they published their inconclusive report in May, 2002, the evidence had been destroyed.
Why did the government rapidly recycle the steel from the largest and most mysterious engineering failure in world history, and why has the media remained silent ?

Definitely an inside job.................

Alien
14 Sep 2021  #1922

Yes; WTC7 was the best house demolition ever and surgically accurate like a cancer cutout. Insider job is surely an option as explanation. But who, that's a question?

Novichok
14 Sep 2021  #1923

was the best house demolition ever and surgically accurate like a cancer cutout.

I like your analogy. Now, can you fill in the details of how that demolition was done and to what purpose.

Alien
14 Sep 2021  #1924

I don't know how and a purpose. But if one don't know is always money, power or sex a purpose.

Novichok
14 Sep 2021  #1925

A conspiracy that would go beyond a plane flying into the building would have to involve preloading the building with explosives that would explode at a very specific moment. This never happened.

Another conspiracy would involve the US government knowing about the plan and deliberately not stopping it.

The third - the US government actually organizing the hit.

Alien
14 Sep 2021  #1926

WTC7 wasn't hit by a plane.

johnny reb
14 Sep 2021  #1927

No it was not so now tell us why it collapsed.

I wonder until today how was collaps of WTC 7 possible?....It wasn't.

That's why they hit the middle. The weight of what was above did the rest.

Ask "The Genius", he seems to think it was. lol

johnny reb
14 Sep 2021  #1928

Why was Building 7, that wasn't hit by a plane, demolished in what appeared to be a Las Vegas Hotel demolition type collapse, 8 hours after the second tower collapsed ?

What I have read and believe is that government insiders may have wanted to destroy key files held in the building pertaining to corporate fraud.

Files relating to numerous federal investigations had been housed in 7 World Trade Center.
The Equal Employment Opportunity Commission estimated over 10,000 of its cases were affected.
Investigative files in the Secret Service's largest field office were lost, with one Secret Service agent saying, "All the evidence that we stored at 7 World Trade, in all our cases, went down with the building."

Copies of emails in connection with the WorldCom scandal that were later requested by the SEC from Salomon Brothers, a subsidiary of Citigroup housed in the building, were also destroyed.

Even a better one Alien, what happened to all the gold that was in the underground vaults of the WTC building ?
It was estimated that there was $950 million stored there yet only $200 million was recovered.

Novichok
14 Sep 2021  #1929

WTC7 wasn't hit by a plane.

I know. The question is why the conspirators would need to add this one to the list. It's a question similar to what cat #8 did for you that the first seven did not. If the conspirators needed a pretext, twin towers were more than sufficient.

Alien
14 Sep 2021  #1930

@Novichokt i
Johnny's answer is plausible. WTC7 is a weakest link in a puzzle. If there is another truth than official in this case we will know it in.....50-100 years?

Novichok
14 Sep 2021  #1931

we will know it in.....50-100 years?

That was a good point. The thing is that IMHO, the US government is too stupid for conspiracies. All they are good for is lying and hiding.

Normal and sane countries do "bad" things to rip off their enemies.
Not nice, but still according to Darwin and the instinct of self-preservation. Crimea is a good example. (Vlad, that was brilliant).
The US does bad things to rip off its own taxpayers as long as the number of dead soldiers brought to Dover is tolerable and stays under the radar. That's one thing the scum learned from the Vietnam episode.

johnny reb
14 Sep 2021  #1932

I know.

You didn't until we brought it to your attention in my post #1927 above. genius.
Don't play coy with me.

Johnny's answer is plausible.

And even more plausible are the engineers and architects that built those towers.
The EXPERTS have testified that the fire from jet fuel does not burn hot enough to melt the steel used in those buildings to cause them to collapse.

Also the live t.v. shots of the identical small explosions that were happening up and down on the sides of those buildings that day that blew outward while the buildings were burning have disappeared to my knowledge.

Maybe they are still out there and if they are, please explain those.

If there is another truth than official in this case we will know it in.....50-100 years?

My guess is that George W. Bush, Dick Cheney and their Saudi friends were behind it.
Osama Bin Laden denied being behind it and the tape they supposedly had of him admitting that he was the master mind was never verified to have been Bin Laden.

And remember, 15 of the 19 hijackers that day were from Saudi Arabia and not Afghanistan.

Miloslaw
14 Sep 2021  #1933

@johnny reb

Such a moronic post that I won't even bother to comment.
Except to say that you should read the official American government reports on the case, before posting such ridiculous and frankly stupid, conspiracy theories.

Crnogorac3
14 Sep 2021  #1934

youtu.be/sAyF8KmXORw

youtu.be/COF0ErhsRDo

I believe George W. Bush allowed these attacks to happen. A number of state agencies sent him warnings for 3 years in a row about potential plane hijackings and attacks, about Mohammad Atta while he was finishing pilot school in Hamburg and he did not improve airport controls at all. Air traffic control and civil protection also failed, I recommend YT recordings of conversations with Flight 11 flight attendant Betty Ong and with Kevin Cosgrove - on whose call it ends in howls at the time of the demolition of the building... not for those who are completely sensitive.

There's still a lot of questions and suspicious entanglements... It doesn't sound weird for Americans to sacrifice their own people that way, they had a false-flag operation like Operation Northwoods planned by John F. Kennedy during the Cold War. And that would be a conspiracy theory today (which is not otherwise much supported but 9/11 is an event that I strongly suspect). Either way, ordinary people are screwed up and always are. I hope it will never happen again.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods

Novichok
14 Sep 2021  #1935

The fact that this pos didn't pay attention is well documented. The critical question is: moron or monster?
The other question is: did the entire fed machine just stand there waiting for one idiot that happens to live in the WH to give them a step-by-step?

They get paid to be on autopilot and act on data without routing it through the prez every time they read another email.

Crnogorac3
14 Sep 2021  #1936

* Meant to say rejected by JFK in previous post regarding Operation Northwoods

youtu.be/EnSdxTetyYQ

Novichok
14 Sep 2021  #1937

"Service industry" is as much an industry as gambling and prostitution. From:

msn.com/en-us/news/us/deaths-of-despair-worsen-among-americans-lacking-college-degrees/ar-AAOoWKl

Deaths of Despair Worsen Among Americans Lacking College Degrees

Case coined the term "deaths of despair" in 2015, when she studied the rise of suicides and drug and alcohol-fueled deaths among working-class Whites in the U.S., following the decline of the manufacturing sector. Since then, Black and Hispanic deaths have also skyrocketed.

This is "America" some idiots enlist and die for. Those who don't, come back home to the minimum wage jobs that pay just enough to buy Walmart garbage - all made in China - and pills to numb the pain.

johnny reb
14 Sep 2021  #1938

I believe George W. Bush allowed these attacks to happen.

Sure he did along with Dick Cheney who was actually telling George what to do at the time.
George's first term was a joke as Cheney was calling the shots, not George.
And here is another one for you Alien.....did you know that the ONLY airplane allowed in U.S. airspace after the attack was Saudi jets carrying George W. Bushes Saudi associates back to Saudi Arabia from G.W.'s hometown in Texas !

George wanted them the hell out of here so the F.B.I. couldn't have a chance to question them.
In fact if my memory serves me right there were TWO plane loads of Saudi's allowed to leave with ALL OTHER planes grounded.

Dirk diggler
14 Sep 2021  #1939

This is "America" some idiots enlist and die for.

And yet you still prefer to call yourself an American over a Pole...

Novichok
14 Sep 2021  #1940

Yes, I do. And so do many other Americans that figured out how the American ruling mob uses some as cannon fodder. When the US is attacked, we all will defend it - for free and with our own guns if necessary. This hasn't happened yet - in this century or the last.

Those who invent wars are war criminals. See Bush 1 and 2. If I hear "We have to fight them there so will not have to fight them here" while the borders are open wide and every Muslim scum can come here as a student or through a lottery, I will throw up.

johnny reb
15 Sep 2021  #1941

Is this typical woman speak or WHAT ! ​LMFAO !

I won't even bother to comment. Except to say

How Fem is that ? HOOT !

Novichok
15 Sep 2021  #1942

This is almost funny...From:

cnbc.com/2021/09/15/us-uk-australia-unveil-new-security-partnership-as-china-expands-military.html

U.S., Australia, and UK unveil new security partnership as China expands its military and influence

...the military and influence purchased with the boatloads of money from "America" - via Walmart and Amazon.

All Xi will have to do to win is to parachute a couple of guys with covid and Australia will lockdown the same day. The UK is too far and too smart to fall for another "fighting for your freedom" crap and the US will continue funding China as it has been since Nixon kissed Mao.

That leaves only one reason for that 95-4-1 "partnership" - to rip off the US taxpayers even more...

Bratwurst Boy
16 Sep 2021  #1943

At least they plan not immediately to show their belly to Peking....

The last big speech by the EU (in the person of Von der Leyen) also made clear where the future adversary and even enemy of the EU stands.

It's all about China

From a ban on goods produced by forced labor to an Indo-Pacific strategy, the EU is signaling concerns about China.

politico.eu/article/european-commission-ursula-von-der-leyen-state-union-2021-china-xi-jinping/

That all are hopeful signs that more and more govs no longer underestimate or even support China! A world wide alliance is in the making...

mafketis
16 Sep 2021  #1944

This is almost funny...From:

Raise and trump...

twitter.com/MichaelPSenger/status/1438394212190339075

A US general babbling about economics and not even bothering to pretend to have any loyalty to the country he's supposed to serve.... the nation state.... she is dead.

All those who looked forward to the event will.... not be happy about the new state form (neoliberal biopolitical state is an accurate if not melodious name).

johnny reb
16 Sep 2021  #1945

At least they plan not immediately to show their belly to Peking....

It's Beijing.
China has been rattling the swords louder and louder as of late.
NATO is quietly responding.
Did you know the British Royal Navy just deployed a warship to the disputed water in the South China Sea for a five year tour ?

Plus for the first time since the Falklands War of 1982, the United Kingdom is sending its largest contingent of warships to waters thousands of miles away from its own. According to the U.K. government, the massive strike group composed of carriers, destroyers, submarines, cruisers, and a number of aircraft from the Royal Navy and Royal Air Force will be "a truly global deployment, from the North Atlantic to the Indo-Pacific."

Did you know that China denied a friendly German warship entry into one of China's harbors as a courtesy ?
I found that interesting being China is Germany's biggest trade partner.
Just today Japan stakes claim to disputed islands and threatens China with force.
And Australia just acquired some nuclear submarines that upset China.
And we all know how the U.S. feels about China.
Connect the dots.
I have a feeling a population reduction is very close to becoming a reality.

Bratwurst Boy
16 Sep 2021  #1946

It's Beijing.

Call it spite... I stay with PEKING! :)

I found that interesting being China is Germany's biggest trade partner.

Hopefully that ends now....Merkels KoTau's stop now....this Pandemia drove the point home that the dependence on China has reached an unhealthy point!

PS: Did you know that Germany still pays every year development aid to China??? Mind boggling!!!

Nearly 10 Billion since 1979....we fed the monster!

Ironside
17 Sep 2021  #1947

we fed the monster!

Probably you pay for the privilege to sell some stuff to them.

Bratwurst Boy
17 Sep 2021  #1948

Crazy!

Novichok
17 Sep 2021  #1949

Not at all, BB.

Money to China comes from 99%.

Money from China goes to 1%. It's really so simple.

Dirk diggler
17 Sep 2021  #1950

And yet Germany says all claims with Poland are closed.... but paying billions every year to China, Israel, EU and of course the millions of Merkel's "doctors and engineers" who want to permanently live off the state that's a-okay

Germany spends more money on coddling third world migrants than on education. And that's just in direct benefits - that doesn't count all the medical care, education, law enforcement, prisons, etc. Otherwise the figure would be 4 times higher...


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