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Novichok
2 Jul 2024  #571

If you want to see another a woman-moron in action this video will do the trick


TheOther
2 Jul 2024  #572

Poor Lyzko and TheOther, they must be in meltdown mode.

Why? Biden will get Trump arrested and sentence him to death for treason. Presidential duties, right? LOL!

The strange thing is that its Republicans who allowed this to happen.

MAGAts have undermined the GOP to the point of no return. The party is not conservative anymore; their leading faces are fascists in disguise and religious nutters.

AntV
2 Jul 2024  #573

Here's a pretty sober analysis from a guy who is a good legal mind and isn't a fan of Trump:

"He has the authority to direct the justice system against criminals at home. He doesn't have authority to go and assassinate people," he added. "So, whether he uses the SEAL team or a private hit man, it doesn't matter; it doesn't make it a carrying out of his authority. So, all these horror stories really are false."

Read the article to get a little more analysis of how this works. Notice how he mentions that lawyers who know this stuff aren't surprised by the ruling, because it makes sense. The sky hasn't fallen, but the histrionics coming from the left is almost as exhilarating as the Portugal-Slovenia match.

thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/4750625-bill-barr-supreme-court-immunity-ruling/mlite/?nxs-test=mlite

Biden saying that this ruling allows a President to do whatever he wants is yet another example of his incompetence, fear-mongering, and recklessness-he says it only with the hopes of drumming up support.

Barney
2 Jul 2024  #574

@AntV
Thats an opinion piece by a Trump appointed (former) Attorney general that contains very little analysis. The penny may be beginning to drop that this nonsense does indeed create an elected king. The usual crowd only see a win for Trump handed to him by his placemen. They don't understand the implications.

Joker
2 Jul 2024  #575

Biden saying that this ruling allows a President to do whatever he wants is yet another example of his incompetence, fear-mongering, and recklessness

It's total fear mongering from the disgruntled leftards that lost, yet another case in the highest court in the land. BooHoo!😆

The sky hasn't fallen, but the histrionics coming from the left is almost as exhilarating as the Portugal-Slovenia match.

The Demorats cant run on their failed policies and their candidate has a severe case of dementia. All they have left is fear mongering.

I am enjoying watching their party implode and need more popcorn:)

TDS is back like a pandemic....Hahahahaha

Novichok
2 Jul 2024  #576

does indeed create an elected king.

Hey, stupid, your king is the most impotent clown on this earth. He is not even allowed to post "What the fvck is going on with those damn migrants". I can. Even you can but you are too chicken to do it.

So try to come up with a better example than that moronic "king".

BTW, there are no "dictators", either. Hitler, Stalin, and Mao were not dictators. If you ask me I will explain.

Trump ... a "dictator"....What a bunch of imbeciles...

Alien
2 Jul 2024  #577

Stalin, and Mao were not dictators. If you ask me I will explain.

Don't ask, or he'll start explaining things to us.

Novichok
2 Jul 2024  #578

I have only one question for Bidenistas. Now pay attention, morons...

Would you leave Biden, the doomsday briefcase, and the launch codes in the same room without adult supervision?

AntV
2 Jul 2024  #579

Bill Barr may have been one of Trump's former AG, but he is also a critic of Trump. He's no placeman. He is proven to be a rule of law guy.

This is not about it being a win or loss for Trump, but what Justice Roberts wrote in his opinion about cannibalizing and enfeebling the Presidency to the point it wouldn't function as it was meant by the Framers-to not allow immunity to a President to perform his constitutional duties would cripple the Executive branch.

Besides, Trump isn't out of the woods on this, there's some counts brought against him that may still go through if the lower courts further develop the facts and its legal analysis as it was remanded to do.

johnny reb
2 Jul 2024  #580

Poor Lyzko and TheOther, they must be in meltdown mode.

Why?

Just read both of your responses to biden getting smeared in the debate and the courts latest ruling.
Typical Liberals by responding with nasty name calling and no substance,
Thats "why".

Barney
2 Jul 2024  #581

enfeebling the Presidency to the point it wouldn't function as it was meant

Nothing in the crap court ruling changes that.

Giving immunity was for short term political reasons which now have long term consequences. A blind man on a charging horse could see that. It is an incredibly stupid decision and as has been pointed out Biden could order Trumps assassination as part of his core duties and these clowns say he would have immunity.

Novichok
2 Jul 2024  #582

Giving immunity was for short term political reasons which now have lohg term consequences.

That was exactly the reason: To make sure, long term, that a sitting president is not harrassed by idiots like you who happen to be the opposition DAs.

If the Supreme Court didn't rule the way it did, every leftist Soros DA bit*ch like the one in Georgia would try to charge the president the bit*ch doesn't like with something.

Now multiply that black Dem POS two dozen times and the president would be doing nothing but going from courthouse to courthouse...Duh!

AntV
2 Jul 2024  #583

No, Biden calling for the assassination of his political opponent would not be immune. It would not qualify in any way, shape, or form fall as an official act.

This ruling does not affect due process, which is required for the government to take the life of a US citizen. The DC circuit in a case concerning the targeted killing of a known terrorist who was an American citizen avers such.

The assassination hypothesis that is being thrown around is absurd, but it is serving its purpose, it's giving Trump's detractors ammo to be used in the public square. The ammo may be blanks but it still makes a lot of noise.

A lot of legal folks across the jurisprudential spectrum all agree on this point. Within the American legal world this decision isn't surprising.

johnny reb
2 Jul 2024  #584

I am waiting for the Swamp to start Civil Disobedience in the streets so biden can declare Marshall Law.
If that happens biden gets to remain president.
Am I right ?

Novichok
2 Jul 2024  #585

No, Biden calling for the assassination of his political opponent would not be immune.

In our democracy, there is no need to assassinate anyone.

Just get a Jew from Hungary going and the POS will help elect black Dem DAs who will keep the guy busy in America's courtrooms with Dem judges and Dem juries.

Barney
2 Jul 2024  #586

There is no due process in any normal understanding, because Biden has absolute immunity for core duties normal understanding is turned on its head.

Novichok
2 Jul 2024  #587

The ammo may be blanks but it still makes a lot of noise.

Exactly. Try to undo a false accusation of being a rapist. Or "abuser"...Or "child molester"...

That's what women do all the time.

because Biden has absolute immunity for core duties

...and that's why this POS will never be charged criminally for keeping that damn border open and inflicting epic damage on the United States and its citizens.

Hey, Barney, can you go somewhere else and do your bootlicking crap there...We have enough morons here as it is already...

AntV
2 Jul 2024  #588

Am I right ?

Hmm, I don't know. I guess under martial law you could suspend elections.

@Barney

I disagree with your assessment-as does many legal scholars.

AntV
2 Jul 2024  #589

why this POS will never be charged criminally for keeping that damn border open and inflicting epic damage on the United States and its citizens.

Nor should he. This is a good example of what a lack of immunity could mean for a President. There are many on the right who think the President and his associates are breaking the law by not enforcing immigration law. If the President isn't immune from criminal proceedings for policy decisions (official acts), there would be countless criminal iterations crafty state and fed attorneys could drum up against Presidents for such decisions. And, that is what this USSC ruling is all about.

It would cripple the executive branch and create an industry of presidential prosecutions that are politically motivated.

PolAmKrakow
2 Jul 2024  #590

I am thinking the convictions in NYC will now be overturned on reversable error. Some charges must be dismissed, and the evidence presented on those dismissed charges cleary influenced the decisions on the other charges. A new trial may have to be ordered. If not, more grounds for appeal just came up. The whole persecution of Trump in the country will disappear like a bad fart in short order. You know, along the same lines as the Biden Presidency.

Bobko
2 Jul 2024  #591

I am thinking the convictions in NYC will now be overturned on reversable error

But those were for business stuff in years prior, and then for campaign finance violations in relation to Stormy Daniels.

Basically, before he was president. Can't see how the immunity decision plays into those judgements.

johnny reb
2 Jul 2024  #592

If the President isn't immune from criminal proceedings for policy decisions (official acts), there would be

So the "Big Man" gets off scott free for telling Ukraine to fire the prosecutor that was investigating him and his sons million dollar pay offs by Burisma or face losing the billion dollar aid package from the U.S. that joe boden laughed about on a hot mike....."I told them to fire the DA that was investigating the case or they weren't getting our governments aid package and Son of a B!tch he was fired within 24 hours, hahaha" unquote.
No crime in that "official act" was there. 🙄
Help me out Novi, what is the word I am looking for here ? Using Federal money to Blackmail ?

AntV
2 Jul 2024  #593

Can't see how the immunity decision plays into those judgements

Neither do I. Although, it might be worth making the argument that he made payments to Cohen at the advice of WH Counsel so as not to break campaign finance law-if he indeed did receive such advice. I don't think it would stick, but might be worth making the argument.

No crime in that "official act" was there

The question is was that an official act, and does it fall under presidential immunity.

TheOther
2 Jul 2024  #594

Typical Liberals by responding with nasty name calling

How do you know that a planeload of Republicans has arrived at an airport? The whining doesn't stop when the engines are cut.

And, that is what this USSC ruling is all about.

Why is Trump the first ex-president who needs this ruling? Because he's innocent? Ha ha ha.

Bobko
2 Jul 2024  #595

Why is Trump the first ex-president who needs this ruling?

That's a very good question.

PolAmKrakow
2 Jul 2024  #596

@Bobko
The actions took place before the election, agreed. But the conversations between Trump, Cohen and others that were used as evidence while Trump was President are now arguably inadmisable. If Cohen cannot voice his opinion on discussions he had with Trump while he was in office, Cohens testimony would be different. Which in theory could lead to different outcomes. Its not the payment that is the alleged crime, it is the coverup which took place partly while Trump was in office that is arguably a presidential act. This case is getting tossed eventually anyway, but this is just another reason.

Novichok
2 Jul 2024  #597

That's a very good question.

Here is a very good answer....

Because Trump was the first president who decided to ignore the memo, gave the middle finger to the swamp, and was attacked by a bunch of Dem hyenas to pervert US democracy.

That's why it was time for clarity.

johnny reb
2 Jul 2024  #598

The question is was that an official act, and does it fall under presidential immunity.

We will be finding out once Trump is president again and starts a multitude of investigations on the Swamp.
Still taking bets if 'The Big Man' is going to pardon his crackhead son for his gun felony.

Barney
2 Jul 2024  #599

That's a very good question.

It is indeed, Nixon claimed he had immunity but didn't have a complaint court.

The outworking of this decision are beginning to be revealed. His immunity apparently extends to covering up payoffs to an adult actress which obviously must have been the intention of those who organised the slave owners revolt aka the founding fathers.

There is only one reason for this decision and its political.

What does it feel like to have an elected King?

johnny reb
2 Jul 2024  #600

What Trump did on his own time when he wasn't holding office is his personal business and no one else's as it had nothing to do with our country's national security.
Now what biden did while holding office while vice president and president that were threats to our National Security is a whole different story.
So please stay focused.


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