USA News and Poland - part 14

The key words here: "got itself". Nobody forced you. You can't blame it on EU tariffs and regulations, because the EU isn't the only market in this world.
And you could've produced for your own domestic market too.


Clearly not Trumpists who don't seem to care how the world works in general lol


I'm going to play your favourite game - what kind of factories and how many do you want back?
And who's going to be working in them?
Are factories jobs those "decent jobs" that American people want? But those are usually low paying jobs:

"Why do factory jobs pay so bad?":

reddit.com/r/jobs/comments/15280qn/why_do_factory_jobs_pay_so_bad/?rdt=59111


The tariffs are not only put on cars. They're put on everything.
Including on materials your manufacturers use to produce stuff:

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Who meltdown? I don't. It is pointless. Tariffs are not a big deal in themselves; it is just the US's direct approach that makes it chaotic. Trump, with his shity New Yorker personality, makes it worse than it could be with his redundant comments.
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Indeed. Tariffs are justified in some cases, and maybe one can make a case for tariffs against every individual country. But targeting all countries at once was really stupid no matter ones' sympathies with Trump. Because then you basically provoke otherwise unlikely alliances against yourself.

If Trump had singled out China from the beginning, that would have been one thing. No doubt many other countries would have been sympathic with that. Instead he targeted all countries, which led to e.g. Japan and SK siding with China, thereby strenghtening China's position. A completely avoidable outcome.

@Tacitus
Targeting all countries at once is equal treatment. Targeting them one at a time would take too long. Japan holds the most US debt in the world, and they will fold very fast. China? Fvck China, their economy is a Titanic sinking, and with 125% tariffs now, they could be destroyed. Add in the movement to strip all Chinese land ownership in the US, and China could very soon be more like the Congo economy. 75 countries now negotiating tariffs. Boom, one week and everyone but China comes to the table to negotiate. Thats smart business.

@Ironside
I love watching the EU squirm over tariffs. Ursula talking tough is funny. All the tariff talk has EU countries worried about dropping tourism. Imagine the influx of China sh!t products in Europe if they cant sell in the US. Notice how the EU doesnt talk about the war in Ukraine much when their bank accounts might be shrinking?

@PolAmKrakow
Don't be buying any lottery tickets this week with that level of insight, to describe it as analysis would be ridiculous. You start by claiming the Chinese economy is "a titanic sinking" then warning that they will flood the rest of the world with stuff.

US debt is mostly held by pension funds and the usual suspects as is the case in most countries, with the bond market approaching disfunction and the realisation that no one ie the EU and China were going to back down, Trump blinked. He almost put the US economy down the toilet. This claim that all these countries are begging for deals is as bogus as his tan. The EU responded to his first round and is considering its response to the second round Europe is not backing down. China is not backing down neither is Canada.

No one is squirming except Whitehouse talking heads trying to disguise a climb down.

Trump has been very unclear what his tax rises are for and what he is trying to accomplish. There is no master plan, no great strategy to reach his end goal, I dont think Trump or the rest of the cult know either. He is just doing things, thats it.

For the record I have been against globalisation for decades as it immiserates people and destroys communities all to the benefit of the rich. The exact same people now opposed to off shoring etc were strong advocates of the crazy system including the people directly impacted by it.

I dunno....if the EU-US market fairly soon ends up as a zero-tariff free trade zone that will be a big deal....courtesy of Trump only! I would call that a big change....

The big thing is "if". Can't see that happening with the level of hostility we have in the air atm.

Folding Cow isn't helping with his coarse language - while few Poles would get offended by his comment that other countries would "kiss his ass", it is extremely offensive in some societies, and loss of face is a major cultural phenomenon in Asia.

Reactions of his nutjob supporters are hilarious this morning but the loss of US credibility will last for decades. This coming just a few weeks after Folding Cow questioned if would uphold Article 5 of NATO. So soft power, military power and financial power all cut in half with 100 days.

I guess some small country is about to be bombed - maybe Panama or Nicaragua. Just like when Clinton bombed those milk factories somebody needs to pay for this farce.

You underestimate China's economy and definitely you don't understand Chinese. Even if and that is big If they are forced to accept the dictate of the US now, they'll wait for an opportunity to f US up. It is not some Nicaragua or Panama.
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That b'tch should be in prison for stupidity, breaking the law, and corruption. All the funny Brussels upstarts talking big as if they were some big EU country management. Who the hell let those dogs out? they need to be caged again. Making decisions for all of the EU - the hell they are.
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The ones authorized to negotiate on behalf of the EU on matters of trade and tarifs. It is times like this when we can only grateful that the EU exists, since it vastly amplifies the negotiating power of its' individual countries.

The time to kill China was fifteen years ago.

Now it is too late.

Trade with America is now third behind ASEAN and the EU.

China now trades with Russia, half as much as with the US - an unthinkable number even 5 years ago. $250B a year with Russia, and about $580B with the US. This is despite Russia having an economy almost ten times smaller than that of the US.

Fifteen years ago, losing America would have killed China. Now it will merely hurt it, but not mortally.

No, again.

Once we all agree that fairness is the objective and it's a treaty, it will be next to impossible to change it to zero deficit as the fundamental rule and goal to make foreign trade truly sustainable.

On top of that, fairness is not measurable and enforceable because equal tariffs are merely a component of "fairness". When Japs refuse to buy American because it's not "patriotic", equal tariffs are meaningless.


...but America stupidly thought that moving its manufacturing to an oppressive totalitarian regime will make it into another Switzerland.

Western idealogs are that stupid. Now they believe that a man can become a woman. Same stupidity, different nuthouse...

Or.....when to hit them if not now? An overall assessment by some expert from January:


bbc.com/news/articles/ceq9lxlg811o




The big elephant in the room.....another civil rights movement.....the party leaders feeling threatened to lose their power...another Tiananmen?

Two reasons:

1. Illegals competing with the locals
2. Fear of moving the factory to Mexico if they don't settle for less

If neither was a factor, wages would be more livable.

The criminals in the DC aka the US government allow this form of blackmail to exist to make campaign donors happy.

These mother fvckers hate Trump because he said no to both.

Bottom line: This corrupt pile of shlt is not fixable without radical surgery. Hence, Trump - the last train out...

Correct.

Forget about the CCP stuff they are the new dynasty and have to demonstrate good governance and public performance or they will be chucked out which is why they wont back down. The problem when entering a game with false pretences, as Trump is finding out, is the other side often take it seriously. The CCP have to take it seriously or they are screwed, not immediately but in the long term.

Hey, stupid, you don't know what the "game" was, what was "false", and what Trump is finding out so STFU and go check on your migrants.

AG Pam Bondi DROPS charges against 'MS-13 leader' arrested in Virginia...but a horrible fate still awaits him

That "horrible fate" is getting a free ticket to go back home.

Villatoro was charged with illegal gun possession after agents found several firearms during the search of his home. Bondi said he was living in the U.S. illegally.

Deporting Villatoros without first securing a conviction breaks historical precedent, as noted by CBS News.

The funny part: This piece of excrement did everything possible to bypass the system on the way in.

Now he likes the system on the way out. At my expense, of course...since there is a possibility that he came to the US to assist nursing home residents or collect homeless kittens.

Jobe well done...



Kill them before they ask for asylum in Texas.

This is how the lying Brits report facts....

From dailymail.com:

The title: America's No1 carmaker stuns workers with job cuts... as bosses grapple with Trump's car tariffs

Inside: GM maintains the layoffs are unrelated to the Trump administration's tariffs,

Memo to Russia: Never trust Western scum.

The jobs Trump is promising aren't for American citizens, he's essentially trying to move the sweatshops from abroad to America complete with the people that work in them abroad, for similarly cheap wages relative to living standards.
No factory or distribution center in the US gets built without the labour already sourced for it, and they're not sourced from the US
Trump says so to the business class explicitly, he's promising what's been the case for decades, but on steroids

Cut the crap.

The problem: 36-3-1 trillions..

You are the president. What's next?

Ask the question in English.

We saw even sooner than I expected!Trump does do about turns when he realises he has made a mistake!
Which is a good quality,I wish we had more politicians like him in Europe that are not afraid to admit they got it wrong.
Most of our politicians are too stubborn to admit defeat.

"What's next" is English enough.

Problems with English comprehension?

Not at all.

WTF does this mean?


Please translate into English.

The US problem is:

36 trillion dollar debt
3 trillion dollar annual fed deficit
1 trillion dollar trade deficit

...all three connected into the 36-3-1 trillion dollar unsustainable fiscal nightmare.

If you were the president, what would you do about the above?

You, like Lyzk,o must be addicted to CNN or BBC.Japan and South Korea are first in line to kiss Trump's ar*se,not directly of course, but through a tissue
for sanitary reasons

What would you do if you were the president?

This is our judicial system...



Russian judges must be blushing...

2.4% inflation report. Under Trump, inflation down to lower than expected numbers. But he is an idiot right? That inflation is lower than Poland and the entire EU, and he has been in office a few months.

The time to beat China is now. 15 years ago, the country was too caught up in recovering from 2008. Now, the economy is good, and if China made goods go up 100000% then people simply wont buy them. Which means all the children in China making these things will become unemployed. This could force an uprising on Xi, the economy in China is dying according to nearly every report. China cannot overcome its real estate problems or its shrinking birth rates. Slowing their economy further will also have an impact on when they are ready to attack Taiwan. Cant switch to a war time economy when the economy is already a mess.

Free trade with the US and EU? Maybe. But will the EU actually make it so standards for goods entering the EU from the US are the same as products produced in the EU? Example. Anyone having taken and Uber ride in a Dacia automobile cannot tell me that it is more safe or better for the environment than a Chevy Spark, or Equinox on the small SUV side. Dacia is cheap not only in price but quality. Chevy, inexpensive but much higher quality.

I think what Trump is doing is long over due, and it will work. All these countries panicked, and now they want to negotiate. Perfect. Fvcking China in the process is just an extra benefit.