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USA News and Poland - part 19



Bobko
5 Mar 2026  #271

Spain has fvcked itself voluntarily with refugee's. Blame the US for Spains policies?

Perhaps geography is not your forte... but there's this little thing that helps prevent Middle Eastern and North African refugees' arrival in America, called THE ATLANTIC OCEAN.

Syrians, and Iraqis, and Iranians, and Libyans may attempt to brave the Mediterranean waters in rubber dinghies... or the English Channel - but none have yet attempted to cross the Atlantic in Thor Heyerdal style.

When you do something funny in Afghanistan, or Iraq, and it gives rise to some new Islamic State or Al Qaeda, which then opens branches in North Africa, plunges those countries into civil war, and causes huge refugee flows into Spain - I think Spain has a right to be upset.

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You got an entire f*cking ocean protecting you from the brown people of North Africa and the Middle East, and yet you are still swamped by millions of asylum claimants from the South.

Laughing at Spain then seems pretty retarded.

If you managed to keep America as some Aryan/Negr0 paradise, where all refugees got immediately self deported into gas chambers - then you could criticize Spain.

As it is - Spain hosts refugees who are mostly there because of either:

1) American sanctions: Cuba and Venezuela (more than half a million of these asylum seekers alone)

2) American initiated wars or terrorism ultimately resulting from American interventions elsewhere (Libyans, Malians, Mauritanians, etc).

Bobko
5 Mar 2026  #272

Hey PAK, special for you, from Trump's presser earlier:

TRUMP: "You gotta lighten up on this, they might have come into our country illegally but they're good people and they're cheap workers. They're working now on farms, in luncheonettes and hotels. We're just focused on getting the murderers out."

I think Trump missed your memo bro!

Oh well, so much for mass deportations.

AntV
5 Mar 2026  #273

2) American initiated wars or terrorism ultimately resulting from American interventions elsewhere (Libyans, Malians, Mauritanians, etc).

Let's not exclude Syria. That had more to do with you guys than us.

TRUMP: "You gotta lighten up on this, they might have come into our country illegally but..

If this is an accurate quote, I agree...although we need to find a way to make the productive non-criminal migrants enter into the citizenship process (with some type of punitive measure like a special migrant tax to be paid over 5 years or something like that). It's the just thing to do; which, of course, puts me at odds with my conservative brethren.

This should allow them to earn a market wage, as well.

So, put that as a positive on the Trump scoreboard.

Bobko
5 Mar 2026  #274

Let's not exclude Syria. That had more to do with you guys than us.

AntV - what are you saying?

We are Russians.

Orcs. Slaves. Mongoloids. The most base animals - barely better than a mosquito or a domestic cockroach - in terms of our value add to the global community.

Why compare your Elvish selves with us?

When you begin comparing yourself to Russia - you should know you lost.

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People are angry at America because they expected better.

He who is endowed with much power - also has great expectations placed upon him, or at least this is what Peter Parker's aunt and uncle told him in the Spider-Man movies.

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Russia is the Joker - happy to watch the world burn in a purgatorial cleansing flame.

America is Batman - flawed, but committed to humanity's progress.

If this is an accurate quote

It is.

I made a mistake saying it was from recent days. It was on 1/21/2026.

FoxNews video link to Twitter below:

x.com/realstewpeters/status/2029636228581060925?s=46

AntV
5 Mar 2026  #275

AntV - what are you saying?

It's called deflection.

I'm trying to get the Global Bad Guy spotlight back on you Orcs. Us global knights in shining armor aren't used to this.

When this war started I said (in order):

1. Dammit!
2. Effing Trump
3. Eff Bibi
4. Bobko is going to be unbearable.
5. Those effing Euros are going to be all sanctimonious. Effing Euros.

Ironside
5 Mar 2026  #276

political orphan-unfortunate.

Look, on the flip side, he stopped the worst excesses of woke and gender policies. He also returned to normal, getting rid of all the so-called green policies. Unfortunately, he has shown himself to be the biggest liar, with the mother of all lies, when he promised to stop foreign wars and not start one. He put the U.S. and all of us into a big, stinking pile of sh'te.
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AntV
5 Mar 2026  #277

Look, on the flip side, he stopped the worst excesses of woke and gender policies. He..

Yes. True! Not everything he's done is bad, there's been good. The southern border is no longer a sieve, either.

But, these other things have the potential of doing major irreparable harm.

I just can't get on board with the trajectory of any party or viable movement right now.

Bobko
5 Mar 2026  #278

Bobko is going to be unbearable.

Initially - I was forced to lean on the vintage experiences of Iraq and AFG.

But then CMS Neuf and Mafketis would constantly rub in my face that "this was twenty years ago you stupid orc!"

In my heart of hearts, however, I knew that sooner or later the American establishment would ride to my rescue!

Joker
6 Mar 2026  #279

American imperial policies? WTF are you morons smoking?

Ironside claims that Iran wasn't a threat to America or the rest of the word. How naive could one person be? boggles!

He pretends to be this huge polish patriot but the guy actually lives in England.

cms neuf
6 Mar 2026  #280

In my heart of hearts, however, I knew that sooner or later the American establishment would..

Yes, and this gives dictators another generations worth of "what about". - truly a short sighted move

And this is the worst of the interventions because in this case the aims - to choose the leader, steal the oil, possibly break up the country are not even disguised, Trump and Netanyahu is quite open about them. The Iranian people are treated something like 19th century Europeans treated Africans - as people who have no agency and no ability to make a decision

PolAmKrakow
6 Mar 2026  #281

You got an entire f*cking ocean protecting you from the brown people of North Africa and..

Are you talking to yourself? Youre the one enjoying the oceans protection. Arm chair quarterbacking European issues. Spain and most of the EU is more dangerous than ever before because of leftists policies. And the number of African and middle east illegals in the US that came through South America is no small number.

But just to be clear, its ok for Russia to attack Ukraine due to an existential threat, but not for the US to attack Iran after Iran has actually been killing Americans for nealry 50 years?

Feniks
6 Mar 2026  #282

Iran wasn't a threat to America or the rest of the word. How naive could one..

Rubio admitted that the US went to war at Israel's request.

Netanyahu has spent 33 years telling the world that Iran is a threat:

youtube.com/watch?v=Mzmtdwsef8s

We heard the same from George W Bush to justify the Iraq war and there were no nuclear weapons.

Trump and the US are Israel's puppet.

Guess there's always gonna be suckers that fall for the party line.

Joker
6 Mar 2026  #283

Rubio admitted that the US went to war at Israel's request.

No. Rubio didn't say the U.S. went to war because Israel asked. He said Israel was planning to strike Iran anyway and that Iran would likely retaliate against U.S. forces, so the U.S. acted first. People online are just twisting that into we did it for Israel.
Iran has been chanting Death to America, burning U.S. flags, backing militant groups, and attacking its neighbors for decades.

Pretending they've never been hostile to the U.S. is just ignoring reality.

You, on the other hand, pretend to be anything other than a retard, and I must..

For someone who keeps talking about grown-ups, you sound like the most childish person in the thread.

Hows the weather in England today?

But just to be clear, its ok for Russia to attack Ukraine due to an existential..

Oh, the irony!

It appears they lost interest in Putin and Ukraine. We`ll be waiting for the next missle to hit so they can beg the USA to come save them again:(

amiga500
6 Mar 2026  #284

No. Rubio didn't say the U.S. went to wa

do you understand diplomatic language and subtlety and reading between the lines? you dumb Yankee whitey trash fu$k

wah wah now you yanks will have to live in the bed you burnt in just like those greater israel zionists wished Iusa out of the Middle East

they want regional supremacy in the Middle East. no room for America

these people don't care if the Middle East fans if Iran is bombed into rubble. they don't care how it hurts that USA or EU in fact they want it

amiga500
6 Mar 2026  #285

Can you dump yanks comprehend that your government has been hijacked since JFK and is acting against your own interest? nah, I don't think you can keep on watching Fox on retards..!

Bobko
6 Mar 2026  #286

The Iranian people are treated something like 19th century Europeans treated Africans

Israel - it's all Israel's fault.

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I was reading an article in the FT, and they quote a young woman from the streets of Tehran, who says something along the lines of, "initially there was some cautious hope, but at this time it seems that they are simply resolved at destroying our country. I don't understand."

I couldn't help but chuckle.

Any person who thinks good things will come to their country, at the tip of a missile - is a certified idiot.

All idiots who cheer for foreigners to come in and re-order their life - always end up looking like total fools.

Buying Netanyahu's "Dear People of Iran - we stand with you!" - makes you a double idiot.

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It's hard for me to put Israel and the US in the same category.

For all its faults - America is not evil like Israel.

This week, I read a statement by an Israeli security official, that basically amounted to this:

1) If Iran collapses into separatist conflicts - good.

2) If it continues to remain without a leader, because Israel will kill every new leader - good.

3) If it becomes an entirely dysfunctional state, not capable of performing the most basic state functions - let alone fund Hezbollah or Ansar Allah - also good.

This is f*cking orthogonal to American interests in the region.

American interests in the region are stability and security for its numerous allies. America is not interested in this becoming a region wide conflagration - only Israel is.

America is interested in Iranian territorial integrity - Israel could not give a f*ck.

America feels it's important that there be somebody on the other side they could still talk to - the Israelis are perfectly happy with a situation where there is no one to talk to, because they killed the 2nd, 3rd and 4th replacement candidate.

It is absolutely shameful how a tiny country is leading a great and powerful country by the nose.

None of these things are to America's benefit.

Ironside
6 Mar 2026  #287

you sound like the most childish person in the thread.

Oh really? Isn't that person you? Are you blaming me for talking to you at your level? Everything slightly sophisticated or complex goes over your head.
Hows the weather in England today?

You don't even have a passport, and the farthest you've traveled from your trailer is probably just around the corner in Albuquerque. Why would you need to know about the weather in England? Oh, wait, you're delusional enough to think you're making some kind of point. It's sad, really; people are laughing at you.
Stop it, get some help.

Alien
6 Mar 2026  #288

@Bobko
Israel's goals in the war with Iran remind me of Russia's goals in the war with Ukraine. Interesting?

Bobko
6 Mar 2026  #289

Israel's goals in the war with Iran remind me of Russia's goals in the war with..

Strange.

Did Putin order an attack that killed Zelensky and large portion of his cabinet?

No.

It is known through the press, that when Zelensky moves about the country - this is communicated to Western partners - who then use back channels to coordinate with Russia in such a way that Zelensky cannot be harmed.

Zelensky only emerged from his bunker, after Putin gave assurances that he would not be touched. I linked the articles about this a million times.

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Is Putin arming Hungarian separatists, in order to carve out an autonomous state friendly to Russia, and from which it may be more convenient to attack Ukraine again in the future?

No, but Trump's CIA is arming Kurds, and encouraging them to start carving up Iran. This, even as Mr. Trump promises Iranians that he will Make Iran Great Again.

Perhaps I am retarded, but I see a problem between telling people you are there to help, and simultaneously trying to implode their country.

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Does Putin use harebrained Biblical arguments to make his case?

Or does he refer instead to historical events, and past intergovernmental agreements?

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Putin - as some hopeless romantic - is actually focused primarily on fighting the Ukrainian army.

One week into this war, it seems that Israel and America are as focused on hitting police stations and local government offices - as they are on hitting IRGC and Artesh targets (and when they do, it's mostly hitting launchers).

Putin doesn't bomb police stations in Kiev. He doesn't bomb the mayor's office.

Alien
6 Mar 2026  #290

Putin doesn't

Actually, I should be comparing Iran to Russia, but that comparison would be even more inadequate. Ukraine is not the USA/Israel, just as Russia is not Iran.

Bobko
6 Mar 2026  #291

Ukraine is not the USA/Israel, just as Russia is not Iran.

Ukraine and Russia share a common history.

Both states trace their beginning to the foundation of the Rus state by Rurik in 862 AD.

Russia didn't drop from the sky, after a two thousand year absence like the Israelis. Instead Russia and Ukraine have lived together for more than 1,000 years.

There are millions of Russians living in Ukraine. Many millions more people have relatives living in Ukraine. And there are MILLIONS AND MILLIONS of Ukrainians living in Russia.

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If Russia is a little bit "obsessed" with Ukraine, it shouldn't be hard to see why. And we are showing the depth of the obsession, through absorbing a monstrous level of casualties.

Name me at least one item, not two or three, just one - which will show some similar level of importance of Iran to America?

PolAmKrakow
6 Mar 2026  #292

One week into this war, it seems that Israel and America are as focused on hitting..

Snake Island anyone? Border patrol check station? Police and fire stations? Showing your pot meet kettle.

Barney
6 Mar 2026  #293

Just read that Trumps spiritual advisor is Paula White who is as mad as a box of frogs with her own evangelist channel wher she spouts bollox and talks in tongues which is also bollox. She charges for blessings and the trinity which is odd for an evangelical, it all seems a bit pre reformation. That's not the maddest part she is married to Jonathan Cain who plays the soft pop Americans and people who don't like music (looking at you Milo) love, in a combo called Journey...I know... I can't stop believing.

Novichok
6 Mar 2026  #294

Ironside claims that Iran wasn't a threat to America or the rest of the world.

There are two kinds of wars: preventive and vengeance. This one is both. A twofer...

Never been prouder of the US and its armed forces. Combined with the Osama and Maduro operations, it adds so nicely to the bottom-line message: DO NOT FVCK WITH THE US.

A US equivalent of what Mossad is so good at...

Torq
6 Mar 2026  #295

So, what's the story so far?

Israel is not an eternally innocent victim, Russia is not the embodiment of absolute evil, Iran is not simply a primitive theocracy, and the United States is not the moral arbiter of the world.

Also, life is not black and white, people are not divided into elves and orcs, and things are not always what they seem.

Shocking.

@Novichok

Welcome back, grumpy old man. ;)

Bobko
6 Mar 2026  #296

@Novichok

You're back!

I thought you were an enemy of the Military Industrial Complex, and not a fan of the amounts of money America spends on defense?

Didn't take much to change your mind.

Novichok
6 Mar 2026  #297

If Russia is a little bit "obsessed" with Ukraine,

Obsession, love, or a need to kill...You always go for the head first.

Giving Z immunity was a blunder that very likely cost both sides 3 milion plus dead. That's a steep price to pay for being by-the- book honorable. Watch any YT video with a mongoose and a cobra to see the wisdom of this idea and how it's done.

What the US and Israel did in Iran should be taught in military academies everywhere: How to lure 50 top a-holes into one building and kill them all in 5 seconds...with an implied promise of more of the same awaiting the next 50. Russia should have done it on February 23, 2022.

Bratwurst Boy
6 Mar 2026  #298

How to lure 50 top a-holes into one building and kill them all in 5 seconds

That! :)

Torq
6 Mar 2026  #299

Russia should have done it on February 23, 2022.

You cannot expect Russians to act like Israelis or Americans. Russia is neither an apartheid state with religious and ethnic discrimination nor a global bully ruled by satanist paedo cabal.

Bobko
6 Mar 2026  #300

What the US and Israel did in Iran should be taught

Wait a few weeks, or months even... before making such grand declarations maybe?

Killing the Ayatollah Khamenei, you killed the guy that was the Number 1 force stopping Iran from g building a bomb.

Khamenei classed nuclear weapons as haram under Islamic law. He framed this ruling as a fatwa. It would be very difficult, within Iran's political system - to disobey this ruling from Khamenei.

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You also killed one of the two most respected Shia clerics in the world. Remember, there are 250+ million Shia in Iraq, Iran, Pakistan, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia, etc.

Shiism revolves around the idea of martyrdom.

By killing the guy in an unjust attack, together with his immediate family and his infant granddaughter - you made the ultimate martyr possible for the Shia.

These are people that are literally willing to die for the past 1300 years, because some dude was killed unjustly.

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So wait a little to see more of the results.


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