USA News and Poland - part 19

I base it on what the IAEA has confirmed.
Iran has enough 60% enriched uranium to theoretically produce 6-10 nuclear weapons.
Google it for yourself.

@johnny reb

Foreign Policy ran a story last month saying IAEA saw movement of some containers in tunnels at Ifshan (or whatever it's called). They believe it could be 60% enriched uranium, however they haven't confirmed it.

Let's say it is enriched uranium. To claim it isn't for weapons is nonsense. But, wouldn't Iran have a legit point-Israel, a hostile nation to Iran with demonstrated expansionist aims, has a nuke, so we need one to balance out power in the region for our own protection?

You ask me a question and I answered it.
Now you want to instigate me to defend Israel. lol

Excuse me !
Then lets talk facts about who is the hostile nation.
Quoting:
1. Iran's 1979 Islamic Revolution declared Israel's destruction as a foundational goal, not a response to Israeli actions.
2. Iran established Hezbollah in 1985 specifically to attack Israeli civilians, decades before recent conflicts.
3. Iran funded over 130 terror attacks against Israeli civilians worldwide between 1979-2000, including synagogue bombings.
4. Iran's nuclear program began covertly in the 1980s, forcing Israel into defensive responses to prevent nuclear genocide.
5. Iran arms Hamas, Hezbollah, and Houthis with 150,000+ rockets aimed at Israeli population centers.
6. Iran directly attacked Israel with 300+ missiles and drones in April 2024, escalating from proxy warfare.
7. October 7, 2023 Hamas massacre was coordinated with Iranian intelligence and funded by Iranian weapons programs.
8. Israel's strikes on Iranian nuclear facilities target weapons programs, not civilian infrastructure or population centers.
9. Iran's regime explicitly calls for Jewish genocide while Israel targets military threats, not Iranian civilians.

OMG! PF's primary troll is back!
But I have to say that his previous post was spot on! Hey JR, keep on supporting Israel and The USA and leave The UK alone and I will leave you alone too.

Israel has nuclear weapons pointed directly at every country in the region.
Israel has been attacking civilians from its foundation in a maelstrom of ethnic cleansing. You may bend the knee to thieves stealing your property but Palestinians and the wider resistance movement don't. Israel is a racist expansionist genocidal state that exists as an outpost of the racist genocidal USA.

Next time you post a list of bollox you just googled try to apply a bit of brain power to your cut and paste.

@Miloslaw
Would you two get a room

And has not used any of them.


Oh, and the Muslims haven't done that?


They don't exist! Palestinians are mainly Jordanians and Lebanese with some Egyptians.... they don't exist as a race or a country....


I think that you are the moron that needs to apply a bit of brain power.... your brain seems to be sadly lacking right now.

@johnny reb

Do you believe that there can be two equally hostile nations? Or, is it always a zero sum thing?

Israel certainly has legit reasons to be concerned about Iran, but same rings true with Iran having legit reasons to be concerned about Israel.

It wouldn't hurt to consider why Iran is hostile toward Iran-spoiler alert: it has to do with Israel driving Arab populations out of the territory they were gifted and subsequent push to occupy/control territory on its outskirts (granted, Israel had legit security concerns).

BTW, who were you quoting?

And Iran has been accused of developing nuclear weapons by Israel and the US for over 30 years without any firm proof of this. Iraq was falsely accused of having them and look how that turned out.

Today is a day of revelation...the USA is the only country to have used them. Russia hasn't used them so why does anywhere else need them? Great logic.

Israel expelled and continues to expell Palestinians from their land A lot of Palestinians are Christian's as are a lot of Lebanese and Syrians unfortunately their numbers are falling because of Israeli ethnic cleansing. The genocidal policies of Israel are not mirrored by the other countries in the region so unless your ignorant slur is backed by evidence it remains an ignorant slur.

You think Palestinians don't exist yet think Welsh people exist, Polish people didn't exist during the partitions, English people ceased after the first act of Union. Man, your understanding of nationhood needs to be undated.

@Feniks
Very true

Your ignorance is unbelievable!! Tell us,EXACTLY, when so called Palestinians ruled their land.... the silence will be astounding! NEVER is the answer you twat!


Your ignorance is astounding!The Christians in those countries have NEVER been attacked by Israeli's but always by Muslims.


Prove to me that it is not Muslims that are attacking Christians.... I expect silence, because you can't.


You are truly nuts.Welsh people have and always have had Wales.


But they did, they just didn't have control of their country, that is not the same thing at all!


And your understanding of nationhood needs to be updated.

Answer me! When did Palestinians rule a country called Palestine? Answer.... Never.Palestine and Palestinians never existed! Check it out....

No he's not. He said Palestinians in their territory-he did not say the state of Palestine (which, imdeed, there never was such a thing). There has always been Palestinians living on that land. Palestinian elites owned land and served in municipal government when it was still considered Syria during Ottoman rule.

That whole Palestine/Israel deal is complicated.


Not true, they are attacked and driven away, especially by the orthodox and ultra-orthodox. I forget the name of the Christian organization in the Holy Land who deals with this stuff, but I'll look it up and post the link.

There's a good book on the modern Middle East called A History of the Modern Middle East. It's worth a read.

Trump himself and his cabinet members now have two choices:

A) Push for the illegalization of the 2020 elections to stay in power. Still, it would be very unlikely to automatically guarantee 0range a 3rd term. At best, they would run a new election, which he would lose 70-30.

B) Military tribunal, confiscation, and jail.

The fake media will be pushing the first option hard, especially since it is backed by Israel.

Spot on with the factual evidence, all TDS leftards will just ignore bc it doesnt fit their mantra.


Agreed. Youre the only sensible Brit on PF.


C) You sound like a guy who's been awake for 3 days watching conspiracy videos and eating cold canned soup. Normal people don't talk like this. Go outside for a while.

You do see the irony in your statement? All you ever say is: Leftard and TDS. You say it so much, it's a mantra.

Do you think Iranians and others in the ME who are hostile toward Israel have legitimate reasons for their hostility? Why?

Do you know the history of the ME? If so, interweave that knowledge into your response to the above.

dWe need better American representation on this board, most of us come across as idiots, so do us a solid and give us something more than leftard and TDS-and, I say this as a rightard who votes for Trump three times.

@AntV
How about the leftards who are not American STFU? All they say is how stupid Trump is, as if its an argument for anything. The absolute lack of intelligent argument from the left is a prime example of why most make fun of them.

As for the ME. Not one American should gaf about what Iran thinks. For 47 years they have been killing Americans. The US should wait no longer and absolutely destroy the country and force it to its knees.

Whats keeping you? Sign up and storm Tehran.

Have you not read what Ant said above.

But they already showed you what will happen - they will simply choke off vital supplies which has so many side effects on the US and their Arab dictator allies that Golden Cow quickly folds

@Barney
I dont need to volunteer, I pay for it with my taxes.

@cms neuf
But the US has not showed anyone what will happen. Blow up the pipelines. Detroy the oil infrastructure and the fvcktards in charge will be begging Putin for a place to hide out. Then the US goes in repairs and rebuilds. If you dont cut off the head of the snake, the snake can survive. Fvck all the politeness. War was never about being polite. Kill the enemy is pretty simple.

Yes, it has.

Three of the supposed largest/most competent armies in the world are stuck in conflicts they started and can't win and have no idea how to get out of....

russia - Ukraine,
Israel - Gaza
US - Persian gulf

There's a lesson there somewhere for those that care to look with an open mind.

I just hope China considers this in its stupid plan to take Taiwan (which has never been under PRC control).

@mafketis
Another stupid leftist statement not based in any fact. Iran had 85 to 90% of its military capability taken out with not one soldier on the gorund. Take out the oil infrastructure and the whole country will collapse in short order. Time to no longer be polite.

And Hormuz is still closed (and time is on Iran's side).

How is this different from Vietnam where the US keep screaming about body counts (how many more Vietnamese were being killed than American soldiers) and the US lost anyway?

Why would they invite the US to do that ? The only way to do so is for the US to occupy Iran - a huge country with 90m population, mountains, difficult weather.

Bombing the crap out of them is the easy part

When I deal with Americans in business they are generally very smart, mitigate risks and think through different scenarios. I have no idea why they elect leaders who do none of those things

@cms neuf
Kill all leaders and you dont need an invitation.

Saddam killed in 2004, America left defeated in 2009

Bin Laden killed in 2011. America left defeated in 2021

Now I think of it the US military is almost as bad as the North Nigerians though they sure like spending money

@cms neuf
America left Iraq defeated? Are you really that stupid? Iraq is free because of the US. Bin Laden dead. Looks like he lost. His terrorist group is nothing any more. You and your stupid name calling is beyond childish. I am guessing you call Cuba a success story?

@mafketis
The Strait is closed by the American blockade not Iran. Lets get things straight before you twist any more bvllshit from the left.

Is there any indication Iran is pressing to open it?

@mafketis
There is every indication they are incapable and to press for something with no capability to force the issue is only something inbred retards do. So there is always that option with Iran.

So, which goals of the US are being met (apart from jumping when Israel says 'frog')?

Stupid unforced error...

@mafketis
Goals of the US? How about breaking Iran whether it takes a long time or a short time it doesnt matter. You might want to look into Iran inflation over the last few weeks. People cant afford to buy toilet paper, now they are using their towel heads for more than a hat.

So the aim is to destroy the country, terrorize the civilian population and take all the oil ?

In that case Iran is perfectly logical to be trying to build a nuclear weapon.

So every other country will also want a nuke. I am sure Taiwan, South Korea and Japan will be looking at their options