Polish forum members die

I didn't like Adrian but for me, ironically, the very qualities and actions that made him unlikeable are also the things that made his death the sadder. He had cancer as a kid and he made it through. His life was spared and then he didn't make the best of it. In some ways it was a wasted life. He wasn't a happy person and he caused hurt to himself and others. He still had a chance to change because he was only in his mid-thirties but he never got that chance. That's why I left a few words of sympathy on the thread where we left condolences. It was a sad loss because it was a life not lived as it might have been, could have been, should have been.

But whatever his faults and mistakes, I'm sure his parents loved him and it's a terrible loss for them to suffer, particularly at their stage in life. He also had friends and people for whom he must have left some happy memories. So, rather than not speaking ill of the dead, perhaps it's more a case of silently acknowledging who a person was while letting those who loved or liked him mourn him.

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Thank you Sir.

So is everyone.


Respect is only respect if it's real. Why pretend?

This is not "tradition" (let alone "Polish tradition"). This is showing basic human empathy. I think it's pretty obvious that I won't go to Dirk's grieving parents and tell them what I think about their son. His parents aren't here though and the only PF members who actually met him in real life and can be considered his "internet buddies", I guess, are psychopaths who enjoy abusing people and don't care about the feelings of others, so why should I care about the feelings of people who don't care about my feelings and the feelings of people I like?


Must've been long time ago, probably when you were still arguing like crazy with johnny_reb, etc. I don't recall Dirk attacking you more recently.


I agree.

I sort of did, however he was determined to be unlikable. Whether he was like that in real life or it was just an act, who knows?

His long arrest record for violent offences, plus the hit and run, suggests that there were victims.


That's the sad bit.

@Atch #181
Beautifully said, you should be a pastor.

No, they aren`t. Lena mentioned how toxic parents affect their kids.


Who are you to cast this stone? Goddess herself? Using these standards, you are also a psychopath who likes abusing people as first before they attack you. I have seen it a few times in the forum.


Do you mean that not attacking sb recently annuls all previous attacks??? :):):) Amasing.


I agree in case of harmful traditions. This one isn`t, it is decent.

Like the way you were above "silly issues" when it came to discussing the cause of death of Ptak's daughter?


Sorry, but someone who behaves the way you do on this forum has no right to lecture me about "decency".


It wasn't about Adrian from the start. It's about pawian's issues with certain posters. It started when pawian attacked Milo for no reason.

That`s false. They charged him with DUI, not hit and run. Stop spreading fake news about dead people, it is really disgusting.


Go back to our two posts - his and my reply - and see why you are lying now. You are the same liar as other posters you accuse of being psychos. Kettle!


I have and will coz you clearly got lost in life.

Excuse me? You've cast plenty of stones yourself on this forum, you hypocrite.


So are you.


Sorry, but I never "attack" people for no reason.

You abuse and insult people who don`t harm you, only present their views - when you don`t agree with them, you call them names. You act the same as posters you accuse of being psychos. That is really amassing you are unaware of your nasty behaviour in the forum.


Me is me and everybody knows me and my vices and virtues.
But now we are talking about you who pretends or is really unaware of your nasty behaviour which makes your accusations ridiculous.

Stop this kettle/pot pointing. It is useless.

I wasn't lying, I just saw a quote from Milo's post in your comment and I didn't read his whole comment. Sorry, my mistake.


This is simply not true. I never call people names, unless they start first with me or someone else. You must've missed something.


Nope, sorry, but that ship has sailed.

A mistake which cost you credibility coz now we will remember you as a liar.


Another lie. I will show you soon.

Again, excuse me?? lol I can be nasty (although usually not as nasty as them) to people who deserve it in my opinion. And you're the one claiming all the time what a decent person you are and lecturing and criticising others all the time o_O


It was an honest mistake, not a lie and I wrote that I'm sorry for that.


Go ahead.

You make too many such honest mistakes recently, it seems. :):):)


In result, you are like them. Did it ever come to your mind that those treated by you in this way can call you a psycho?


I am decent in serious matters like death of our members.

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Namely?


So are you. Somehow you don't try to be better than your opponents on PF, so why do you think you have the right to lecture me?


I am usually nasty only to people who were nasty to me or others and those are usually PF psychos. And those PF psychos called me all kinds of things already, which were not true, so what difference does it make if they call me a psycho too? And, yes, often when I called johnny_reb something, for example, he would accuse me of the same thing, including of being a "psycho", no matter whether it made sense or was true or not. So?


Oh, but I'm supposed to be decent in every matter and you get to choose what you are decent about? lol Sorry, but it doesn't work that way.

Yes, I am nasty pawian in minor scuffles but when it comes to serious issues like this death of a member, I can keep my decency. Learn from me. Ha!


I have the right to preach to you about your wrong attitude to Polish traditions coz you claimed you didn`t have to remain silent over that grave as the deceased had nasty views and attacked people here. So, I am telling you that you practise your own psycho stuff towards others, too. This makes you elligible for my preaching. Isn`t it simple?


Not every. I said already: important ones.

The cause of death of Ptak's daughter was a serious issue. You didn't keep your decency in that case.


As I already wrote - that ship has sailed.


I get to choose which traditions or "traditions" I'm going to observe. You can't make me.


I didn't claim that Dirk was attacking people. He didn't attack me and as far as I remember he wasn't very aggressive towards posters.

I still did. I was nasty on Ptak on purpose coz I defended you and Lena against his nasty and false accusations. That was a tit for tat situation.

Yes, now I know I made a mistake with that defence coz you are using that case as a manipulative argument in our current exchange. Shame on you.

Ptak, I am sorry for what I said. Will you forgive me?


It doesn`t matter anymore. After the last time you attacked me I thought you would come to your senses. You didn`t and that was the last straw. We are done! Ha!

I will miss Dirk no matter what anyone says about him. I regret that we never met. He lived just 30 minutes from me.
To anyone saying bad things about the man: Drop dead.

No, you didn't.


Noone asked you to be that nasty.


As far as I remember you were attacking him, because he was attacking you. By the time you made those comments it had nothing to do with me and defenitely nothing to do with Lenka.

I didn't "attack" you. Disagreement or criticism isn't an attack. It is you who resort to attack - you call me names, etc.


Yes, the last time you were done with me. This time we're both done.

There you go:

polanda.com/off-topic/random-chat-87831/6/#msg1909596

"pawian:
You talk a lot about raping. Is that what you did to your daughter? How many times did you do it? Regularly or occassionally? Did your wife and her mother knew about it but closed an eye and you had a free access?

You were a toxic perverted "dad" who eventually led his child to the suicide. Tfu, kanalia!

No wonder that you are best friends with johhny, another perverted kanalia who assisted his lodger in peddling nude pics of kids."

And another quote:

polanda.com/off-topic/random-chat-87831/6/#msg1909578

"Exactly. Johhny is only being paid with the same coin that he is peddling here. And we have the perfect balance of nature. He is really hopeless coz he never remembers, just like Ptak, that anybody who tries to play dirty with me is served the same dish and regrets it greatly later on. HA! :):):)"

So, pawian, what did it have to do with me and Lenka?

It was a continuation of my standing up for you and Lena before. Ptak tried to disparage me by suggesting I had raped his daughter. I used his nasty comments in reverse against him. You are nicely manipulating the whole affair now if you keep silent about his provocative contribution.

You are a lying and manipulative psycho, indeed. :(:(:(:


Perfect balance in nature!! hahahaha

I remember how it all started. But it didn't have anything to do with Lenka. And noone told you to suggest that Ptak's daughter killed herself because of him. It was your choice to make such a comment.


Yes, as I wrote - at that time it wasn't about defending me anymore.


I'm not silent about his "contribution" - I wrote that you were attacking him, because he was attacking you and I gave links where anyone can read your exchanges.


No, I am not.

You suffer from amnesia. Drink the memory syrup from Germany called Buerlecithin. hahahaha


These childish denials are useless. :):):) Btw, stop stomping your feet when you write. hahahaha

How so? Do you remember how this started? Because I have an impression that you don't:

polanda.com/off-topic/random-chat-87715/46/#msg1902160

"First, you ridiculed the death by decapitation of a female tourist from the hands of Islamist terrorists in Morocoo.
Then, Paulina asked you if you would find it equally amusing if that was your own daughter.
So you flew off the handle and attacked Paulina.
And I joined in and defended her, reminding you about your ignoble behaviour.

That`s how it all went., You are are psycho and kanalia if you reject your own guilt."

It had nothing to do with Lenka.


There's nothing childish about the truth :) But you are free to prove that I'm "a lying and manipulative psycho". Knock yourself out.

You are too focused on yourself, really. Typical for psychos. :):):)

That is why you prefer not to remember that when Ptak derided the decapitation of female tourists in Morocco, he used Lenka as a target for his derision! Ha! He asked or suggested sth like that: Was it Lena who got decapitated in Morocco??? He thought it was a good retribution coz Lena was arguing with him at the time about his attitude to women or sth.

And then you got furious, meddled in and mentioned his daughter,. Ptak got furious and abused you. Then I joined in and abused Ptak. Then he abused me several times and got a due reply.

That`s how it went, darling. All stages of that brawl nicely connected with each other - one giving a rise to another.
Drink Buerlecithin for better memory, I am telling you. hahaha

That would mean that I defended Lenka, not you. Later on in that exchange Ptak didn't attack Lenka, only me, because I mentioned his daughter, not Lenka, and so you defended only me.


No, I am not. I'm telling you how it went. You can always prove me wrong with quotes if you think I remember it wrong.

Btw, what does it matter if you defended me? Did that give you some kind of carte blanche for any kind of behaviour? No. There were times when I defended you too, but I wasn't crossing certain lines. It was always your choice to cross those lines and you did cross them.