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Amassing you seem not to know. I did it coz we supported and helped each other bear the nasty attacks of wretched rightists in the forum. Now when you proved so disloyal I don`t care anymore. You destroyed a good relation between us - instead of support, you chose confrontation. Let it be.


Yes, it is, in this jungle called the PF. hahaha Your refusal to understand such simple things is really amassing! :):):)


Yes, I did because I am pawian.
But I am still able to realise when I act badly and then I display my decent me. . While you aren`t and don`t when you insist on disparaging the memory of the deceased or lying about our relation.

I said what was needed to say. Thank you very much for this lesson on loyalty. :):):)
See you in other threads. There are riddles waiting for you. :):):)

Especially now, when there is such a difficult situation in both Easts - Ukraine and Israel - and we should stay united.
Why you are doing it is a complete mystery to me. You must be really bored but also embittered in life if you provoke additional confrontations in such hard times.

Well...
Sometimes you supported and helped, sometimes you didn't. The same was with me, so I don't blame you and I don't make a drama about a "betrayal" out of this.


No, my impression is that you simply don't take criticism well. Roz was right.


I am not disparaging the memory of the deceased. I didn't call Dirk names or lie about him. I only wrote that he supported Holocaust and that I don't miss him. I didn't wish him to die, but I don't miss him and that's the truth.

I take it unwell from people whom I trusted and believed to be my friends. I suppose it it typical of normal decent people, isn`t it? :):):)


So why did you mention Hitler or Stalin?? That was disparaging.


You do betrayal while I make drama. That`s another excellent balance in nature. hahahaha

Hey, don`t you have a life but you have to infest this thread, instead of going to other threads????

That's unhealthy then... And what about your wife and kids? Do you also fly off the handle and abuse them when they disagree with you, stand up to you, criticise you for something?


No, I personally prefer people to be honest with me, including friends.


I mentioned Hitler, because he supported Holocaust and he's deceased, like Dirk.


Oh, btw... I get an impression that you say what suits you at a given moment... I remember that earlier you seemed to be distancing yourself from members of the forum by saying that people on PF aren't our real life friends or family and that we should take it easy. And suddenly lately, when I criticised you, I'm finding out that we were "friends" and I committed some kind of great "betrayal" by disagreeing with you and you're clearly not "taking it easy". This smells like gaslighting... 🤔 What kind of bullsh1t is this?

I invite you to return to other threads. Ha!

Ah, gaslighting and bullsh1t it was then... 💡



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Yes, we know you consider Polish culture bs. You proved it here. Amassingly sad you are ready to disparage even All Saints Day.

No, you liar. I'm just getting an impression that you are gaslighting and bullsh1ting me with this "betrayal" drama of yours.


What the hell are you lying this time about??

That`s fake news of yours, of course. I could never say such a thing. Forum friendships and alliances between people of similar views on vital issues are sth I have always supported in the forum. Others do it regularly here. Why you felt the necessity to destroy such a friendship is a mystery to me.


Yes, I said it to rightists or nationalists or anybody who attacked me. To Cojest, for example, a few times. I never said it to you or Lena or Fenix.


I invited you to check other threads instead of wasting everybody`s time here. Among others the riddle thread where I posted a riddle about on old gas factory in Warsaw. You disparaged it, showing you don`t care for decent participation in the forum, you come here only to quarrel and confront people.


Yes, in this way you disparaged another thread about Polish culture - All Saints Day thread.

Shame on you. What has gotten into you, I wonder????? :(:(:(:(:(

You did. I remember that o_O


I also remember how you were laughing at the idea of forum "alliances". I'm not even mentioning "friendships".

This is why your drama concerning my alleged "betrayal" is so surreal for me. You suddenly announced the end of "friendship" that noone even knew it existed in the first place lol How could I destroy something I didn't know about? What's more, you have your own rules concerning "friendship" or "alliance" or whatever you call it and apparently I broke those rules without knowing about them either. So you're angry at me and you're insulting me for "destroying" something I didn't even knew it existed. This is pretty insane.

First you make it sound like everything is a joke to you on this forum and then suddenly you get mortally offended by something that would seem trivial to me. Sorry, but this is confusing, to put it mildly. At first I wasn't even sure if you're serious about that "betrayal", remember?

Even now I don't know if you're being honest or are you lying just to attack me.


What a bullsh1t. I could also pick a day during which you were mainly arguing with someone and claim the same about you, which would be obviously not true in general. I haven't registered today on this forum, I've been a member of PF for 15 years now, so cut the crap and stop this manipulating.

You are lying like you are breathing now. :):):)


That is why your behaviour and attitude is such a mystery to me.

Never mind. Let`s call it a day. Tomorrow, go to other threads and contribute - prove you don`t come here solely to initiate quarrels and confrontations.

No, I'm not lying. Why would I lie about it? 🤦


There's nothing mysterious about it - I don't have to always agree with you.


After 15 years on this forum I don't have to prove anything to anyone anymore. And I will post whenever and wherever I want.

I'm surprised that no one explained WHY it's bad to speak ill of the dead.

Well, the Ape sort of did - when he explained it may hurt the deceased's surviving loved ones.... That's not such a good reason, however, in my mind.

Russians also have a saying: «О мертвых или хорошо, или ничего». Translation: "About the dead - either praise, or nothing."

I always understood the meaning of this to be, that it is pathetic to attack someone that cannot defend himself.

How ironic a faggot calling someone else nasty with their disgusting lifestyle thinking its normal. How sad and pathetic.

Its too bad Dirk is gone and cant defend himself.. This is the only way you could ever try to beat him is while hes dead. And you still lose. LOL


What a bunch of twats making this thread all about themselves, arguing about their personal insecurities instead of respecting a former member of PF and his family.

I haven't developed "a relation" with Adrian. As I already wrote - be barely interacted. He was like a stranger on the bus that I would exchange some remarks with, like comments about the weather, on my way to work.


That's the only really good reason, in my opinion.


We have a similar saying and I was sticking to it for the last three months even though I don't really agree with it. And I don't agree with it, because that would mean not being able to talk and tell the truth about a dead person for years no matter how bad this person was. Sorry, but for me that's just stupid.

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Exactly.

Pawian, I don't understand why talking about Adrian as being racist, antisemitic and homophobic should be 'disrespectful', if he himself was so proud of those views of his when he was alive.

In a way, people recalling these attitudes of his are paying him some sort of respect ...

This. I didn't like him (and the feeling was mutual) but I certainly would never wish harm or early death on him.

But let's not sugarcoat who he was, someone who hated people who weren't like him and was very self-destructive. It's too bad he'll never have a chance to mature more and grow.

I'm not going to 'forgive' him because he never did me any harm (sticks and stones). I'm sorry he's dead but remember the real person, not the one some hoped he might become.

Nobody here knows how he was more then I did.People are different on line.I remember him giving homeless person twice 10 & 20 Zlots,BTW I never give them a dime and when I tried to stop him he told me that I should too.He was not street smart a typical American suburban kid.I remember also there was a gay Polish American in the bar who bummed him for cigs and beer and he would quietly pay but didnt had the balls to say no.

@Maf:thx for posting good things about him at his place.

My last convo with him on my US cell,when he was supp to meet me and he didnt respond and his dad called me crying.

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Feel more or less the same

He was none of this. These are labels you just used in lieu of fact-based arguments.

Poland is a peaceful place because it is racist. Do you want a million Somalis in Poland? If you don't, you are a racist and a xenophobe. If you are not sure, you are a moron...

Do you want 100 mosques in Warsaw? If not, you are an Islamophobe.

Do you want five million Jews? If not, you are an antisemite and a Nazi.

Do you want Poland to be 30% gay? No? Then you are a homophobe.

Do you want one million Gypsies? If not, you are an embarrassment to your kids.

Your racism, antisemitism, homophobia, and xenophobia are disgusting.

Dirk was a Polish patriot.

You are a good man, Cargo, and I appreciate your comments about Adrian.

When I came to Germany as a Pole, I was a black gypsy, Muslim, homosexual Jew. Only after arrival did I bleach it and get rid of other stains. It took some time for me to become who I am today. From what I read, Adrian remained at the stage of a fairly primitive man until the end. This was also his patriotism.

Did you ever shoot people for fun? If not, you were not black.
Did you ever steal and cheat? If not, you were not a Gypsie.
Did you ever say "infidel"? If not, you were not a Muslim.
Did you ever think that fvcking another guy's a-hole was "normal"? If not, you were not a homosexual.
Did you ever think that marrying a Christian woman was wrong? If not, you were not a Jew.


Poles are like Adrian. Because of that, Poland will be Poland centuries from now. So will Russia, Japan, and China.

The US and Western Europe, just like Sweden, will be unrecognizable.

They already are.

I am proud of Poles.

Me too, but in detail I'm sure each of us is proud of something different, because for example I'm proud that Poland can get rid of the medieval rule of PiS, and you certainly won't.

I can simplify it for you...

Think Darwin and instinct of self-preservation - both personal and tribal - not woke Swedish PM and the idiots who can't say no fvcking way. - aka bootlickers like Atch and Tacitus.

Racially and culturally monolithic society will survive. Poland did because of that - not in spite of it.

The diverse and antagonistic mess we have in the US will not.

Likewise man I also appreciate that you guys went for the wake and Joker who mailed me the card and the pics.He was not what these freaks think by his posts here,was so funny when me him and sig had a conf call laughing about these PF rollers.