2016 Presidential Elections in the US

Honestly Chemikiem I don't think that the line can be drawn quite like you are imagining. I think that education has little to do with voting choices in this case but even if it does you are missing a point here.
Trump's success exemplifies disillusionment of the large chunks of the American society with the current establishment. I think tea party, Trump and other events are just early signs of the backlash in the USA against current cultural and political mainstream.
You don't need to be a seer to see it. Its possible that in the not so distant future we'll witness a new national party emerging to take its places in the center of expected changes.

It doesn't need to be an actual wall. It isn't even about building that wall. Trump's wall represents a political will to change the current state of affairs in regards to illegal immigrants.
On the lighter note. Israel build its wall and seems that its in fact working and people are glad. I wouldn't scoff at walls or to put it amply I wouldn't scoff at the practicality of walled solutions. :)
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America is becoming less European. All this because of their change in policy during the 60s (Emmanuel-Celler Act- I think it was).
By 2050 they will have less than 50% white people because of immigration.

If I was American and white I would see this as a threat. Trump is the only Republic which seems to care about this from all the other Globalist and Neocon morons. People were tired of Bush and his pseudo-conservativism.

If I lived in America I would probably be forced to vote for Trump, since Hillary is an interventionist, pyscopathic, liberal and Globalist.
Sanders is just a weird guy. American politics just cant have a guy like that.

More Mexicans, and other immigrants means you have even more people voting for Democrats. Republican voters should see this.

The Adantage America has: its newer immigrants are mostly Hispanic or Asian.
In Europe we are stuck with Arabs and other North Africans...
Hispanics are usually Catholic or liberal
Arabs and so on want Islam to spread.
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There is nothing you can take for granted anymore these days. You could lose your job anytime which means financial desaster for many families. Wages are so low that people need two jobs to make ends meet. Costs for college education are through the roof. Add to that the terrorist threat of which you are constantly reminded by the media, and you will get a populace that is deeply distraught and insecure about its future. In the US, half of the voters scream for help from the government, while the other half is following dubious pied pipers like Trump or Cruz. Divide and conquer.

She most likely will be voting for Cruz since he is a Texas senator and we sure hope that she is not a low information voter and votes Socialist.

The U.S has a few billion people called Muslims that want us dead and 15 million illegal is not what I would call a few and that few want the free welfare not the jobs. You wouldn't know this since you don't live here and see it every day.

Not true, President Hussain Obama already did that.
However since you will not be voting since you don't like any of the candidates you should probably quit your whining and shut up about the elections.
You don't want to vote then keep your opinions about American politics to yourself.
If you don't stand up to vote you stand for nothing.

Ask Franjo Tudjman of Croatia just how war psychosis can let you get away with anything you want.

Still, give Trump credit. He's managed to be fortunate enough to come up against two challengers (Cruz and Rubio) that are dividing the vote between them, leaving him a clear run at the nomination. If either of them had a brain, they'd get together and agree that Cruz would support Rubio on a joint Rubio-Cruz ticket. Job done and Trump defeated.

Rubio and Cruz ought to hire you delph for their chairman of their campaign committee.
They would be a shoe in with you in charge. lol

Don't worry, they're doing a splendid job of making sure that Clinton wins in a landslide.

It's all good, at least America will be in safe hands for another 4 years.

You was doing same fake confident talking before elections in Poland, I was offering you a bet to prove how not confident in reality you are and you chickened out. I can bet all my money that Clinton doesn't win and you know I'm right once again.

I'd rather stand for nothing in this election than for crazy Trump or the Rubio robot. Ironside was right: it's time for a strong third party.

So you have Cruz left.

He has no chance, that's why I didn't mention the Texas nutter.

Most likely, but I don't think Rubio can beat Trump either.

That depends. If Cruz, Kasich and Carson drop out of the race early enough, their supporters will vote for Rubio. And then Trump will lose.

I have already explained in my past post that it is almost mathematically impossible for Rubio to beat Trump even if they all dropped out.
Hells bells Rubio has yet to win a State as bad as I would like to see him beat Trump.
Part of the other candidates supporters would vote for Trump also.
Come the 16th of March, after super Tuesday, you will have your nominees for the general and the States voting after that will be meaningless.
Hillary buried Crazy Bernie in South Carolina today winning huge.
My money is it will be between the Trumpster and Hillary.
The sad part is, with Hillary's supporters there are more people voting for a living then working for a living.
That's how President Hussain Obama got elected twice by the low information voters.
First time was the promise of free cell phones and second time was the promise of free Obama Care.

Latest piece of chuzpah from The Donald is that bleedin' Mexico should PAY for a wall the US under his administration insists they build!!! Were the Mexicans and their government ever consulted about said wall??! No, and Vicente Fox was right in the way he responded; vulgarity and or brute retaliation is apparently the only language Trump understands (..considering that he's a self-confessed non-reader!! Terrific, W II in the White House. Just what this laughing stock of a Homer Simpson country needsLOL)

Now if that's not the living end, people:-)

lyzko, Mexico pays for the wall through import duties.

Yahoo, had an article this past summer about a Mexican strawberry picker working for a dollar day, living in a cardboard box with nine kids, surviving on beans and rice. American workers can't compete against that. A dollar a day doesn't pay for a car, trips to Wal mart or the grocery store for that matter.

America cannot continue with a trade deficit of $40-$50 billion/year. Year after year. For no reason. It doesn't have to be this way.

How so? In most polls I've seen, Trump comes in between 30 and 44%. Which means that the majority of the voters are against him. Cruz and the rest of the field must step down before too many states have voted; otherwise it's too late and Trump will become the presidential candidate for the GOP.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationwide_opinion_polling_for_the_Republican_Party_presidential_primaries,_2016


Will still not cover the long term costs for border control and maintenance. Ask the ones who were responsible for the border between West Germany and the GDR. They can teach you how to bankrupt a country.

Except for Rubio, of course...

I heard they where going to turn the U.S. side of the border into a military training area with live ammo.
What is so expensive in flying drones up and down the boarder with 50 cal. machine guns mounted to them ?
What better military practice then live targets. A win win.

I haven't missed it Iron, I can understand where his appeal comes from as out of all the candidates, he comes across as being the one who will actually 'do' something for the people and is actually addressing the concerns of the people. Yes, Americans are fed up and want change from the same old system that does nothing for them.
BUT, what Trump says he will do and what he can actually do are two very different things, and it's obvious that what he wants to do, isn't actually going to happen, and I'm stunned that people can fall for his " Make America Great " again stance without really considering how he is going to achieve this. The times of America being "great " are long gone and he's living in the past looking through rose tinted glasses at the America of his youth and hoping to replicate it. Ain't gonna happen.


I wouldn't be surprised if that happens tbh.

What frightens me about the guy are his views on the Mexicans and Muslims. I agree with TheOther in that I think he is a dangerous man. He is an appealing choice in his stance on Muslim immigration in the current climate because of the worldwide fear of terrorist attacks, and he's playing on that fear. Don't like Muslims? We'll just ban them from our country. Don't like illegal immigrants whose only fault is that they are poor and just want to earn a living? We'll build a bloody great wall to keep them out. He reminds me of Hitler.
With him as president I would be wondering how long it would be before he starts a war.

If he gets into power, who will be next? My guess is that he will have to do something about " poor blacks".
Or maybe he won't want Polish immigrants ;)

I don't have to live there, but there has always been a close collaboration between the UK and America. Just look at the Bush/Blair Iraq fiasco, and this is why I am worried if he gets the vote.


I know i am looking at this from a humanitarian point of view, but yeah, he's saying if you're poor you simply don't matter. We will just shut you out, problem solved. Except it won't be will it?


Exactly this.

Pam you are a typical do as I say not as I do liberal socialist.

They call people like that "politicians". They promise wonders and sh*t blunders.
ALL of them, not just Trump.

The "poor blacks" have more rights, welfare and diversity programs then any other group in America.

And just look at the Merkel and Hussain Obama fiasco with immigration and diversity.

Very appealing as we have seen way to many innocent people get killed by them. Only a low information voter would think the contrary.

And your pity party of low information falls at the Americans tax payers expense (the workers of America) by burdening the welfare system, the school systems, the health care systems, low income housing systems and the ones that do work take jobs from Americans all in the name of future democrat socialist voters.
How does that saying go: If ya can't feed them, don't breed them.
And those that do work work for cash and send BILLIONS of tax free money out of America back to Mexico draining America of potential income tax that pays for the government welfare systems.

Why has it become America's job to take care of the world ? How mush foreign aid has the EU sent to Mexico, how many jobs has the EU sent to Mexico, how many factories have the EU sent to Mexico compared to the U.S.A. ?
So with that said, Pam, put up or shut up.
Trump will make America Great Again by putting the American people first again and start taking care of our own first even if he has to divide the country between the dead weight liberals and the workers of America. Yes, divide to conquer failure.
Now Pam I would be more then happy to hear why you think it is working America's job to feed and protect the world before they take care of Americans first ?

This is why the Trumpster should win.

Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton are in a bar.
Donald leans over, and with a smile on his face, says, "The media are really tearing you apart for that scandal."
Hillary: "You mean my lying about Benghazi ?"
"You mean the massive voter fraud ?"
"You mean the military not getting their votes counted ?"
"Using my secret private server with classified material to hide my activities ?"
"The NSA monitoring our phone calls, emails and everything else ?"
"Using the Clinton Foundation as a cover for tax evasion, hiring cronies, and taking bribes from foreign countries ?
"You mean the drones being operated in our own country without the
benefit of the law ?"
"Giving 123 Technologies $300 Million, and right afterward it declared bankruptcy and was sold to the Chinese ?"
"You mean arming the Muslim Brotherhood and hiring them in the White House ?"
"Whitewater, Watergate committee, Vince Foster, commodity deals ?"
"The IRS targeting conservatives ?"
"Turning Libya into chaos ?"
"Trashing Mubarak, one of our few Muslim friends ?"
"Turning our backs on Israel ?"
"Selling half of America's uranium to Russia and getting a $50 million donation to the Clinton Foundation.
"The joke Iran Nuke deal where we gave Iran $500 Billion cash and let them proceed to enrich uranium for a bomb. "
"Leaving Iraq in chaos ? "
"The DOJ spying on the press ?"
"You mean HHS Secretary Sibelius shaking down health insurance executives ?"
"Giving our cronies in SOLYNDRA $500 MILLION DOLLARS and 3 months later they declared bankruptcy and then the Chinese bought it ?"
"The NSA monitoring citizens' ?"
"The State Department interfering with an Inspector General investigation on departmental sexual misconduct ?"
"Me, The IRS, Clapper and Holder all lying to Congress ?"
"Threats to all of Bill's former mistresses to keep them quiet" ?
"When I stole the White House furniture, silverware and china when Bill left Office ?"

Yet she still gets the Democratic votes !
Does anyone understand this ?
Now do you know why I call them the low information voters ?

What annoys me the most are his views on the environment. The situation with the off shore wind turbines visible from his new flag ship golf course in Scotland. How unreasonable must a person be to create such a problem over those wind turbines? Does he own the North sea? would it be that bad for business?

Climate change is the one thing that realistically, seriously threatens our very existence on this planet and to have one of the most powerful men on the planet a strict denier worries me.


Do you honestly think anybodys going to read that...from you?

Apparently, he's a complete perfectionist with these things. The whole thing with the turbines wasn't based on business problems, but rather that it didn't fit his view of how his golf course should look.

I'm still surprised his golf course hasn't been systematically trashed.

and you remind me of a hypocrite

Focus on the thread and not posters.

Constant comparing a politician that you don't agree with to Hitler is just boring world wide syndrome.

yeah a couple of guys running around the greens with petrol filled watering cans could do some damage. I siphoned a car once and got a mouthful of the stuff and the hose squirted petrol all over my grass and killed it.

And you worry about the environment by dumping large amounts of gasoline illegally to absorb into the ground water that we drink.
You are quite an environmentalist Yose. lol

Golf is a game to be enjoyed outdoors with Mother Natures beauty and peace and quiet.
Obviously you have never heard the noise pollution that these big wind turbines create.
Most wouldn't pay big bucks to play 18 and have to listen to Whoomp Whoomp Whoomp none stop.
I sure wouldn't buy a $1,000,000 squid house by one.
Google for us Yose and tell us how many millions of birds wind turbines kill. What does that do to the natural environment ?

Once you figure out that Climate Change is a big hoax to make a few very rich you will understand why you and President Trump had different opinions on it.

I didn't think you would respond to it because it is very hard to deny those facts.
Those are just a few of Hillary's sins yet the low information voters are also of low in intellect making their voting priorities what is promised to them for free instead of the crimes Hillary has committed.
The Liberals want to sweep those under the rug so they don't have to address such issues.
Out of site, out of mind denial mentality.
Now again before you forget Yose, how many millions (billions) of birds do wind turbines kill in a year ?
How many decibels of noise does each one produce ?

That's a very good way to describe Trump voters. The statistics are all there - Trump is attracting large numbers of badly educated Americans.

And he will be the president of all Americans, badly and well educated.

9/4 on that if you're a gambling man.

Certainly the GOP thinks they're headed for a catastrophic defeat if Trump wins the nomination.