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2016 Presidential Elections in the US



johnny reb
1 Mar 2016  #571

It's not just Trumps' views on illegal immigration that bother me, it's his views on Muslims too.

You mean the people that killed over 3,000 innocent Americans in one day and have not stopped killing them and Christians around the world ever since ?
Or how the Muslim religion is Islam which preaches those who refuse to convert to Islam are infidels so kill them.
Now that is what scares me Pam and that is why they are unwanted.
Maybe if Muslims blew up 3,000 people in London (which will happen) you may have a different view.
the other half are coming from Asia, Central and South America.

With very few of them taxing our welfare or prison system. You don't see these people protesting, standing in welfare lines, demanding Spanish speaking teachers teach their children in American schools or in short, they are not taxing America's system and act like guests in their host country. How blind would one have to be not to see that ?
gave them to undocumented and illegal Polish immigrants. Hypocrite much?

Sensationalism at it's best Pam......now the rest of the story. Trump gave TWO Polish guys a job 38 years ago not knowing that they were undocumented. Trump did not personally hire them as Trump has thousands of people that work for him.
(Boy dunnit that take the twist out of that story)
Like I admitted to delph Pam, there is no doubt I should not post about Poland's politics as I know not all the facts or history of them.
Nor should I post about the UK's not being a citizen as you are.
The same thing goes for you, you can't google Wiki and try to post with authority as you only make a fool out of yourself.
Your Britain has got one hell of a mess with your immigrants that is going to be a lot worse then what America has with Mexico.
It looks to me like you are wishing the worse on America knowing that Britain's problems are getting worse by the day and you are jealous.
(Better you clean up your own back yard before you get scared about mine.)
Either that or you are trolling blindly just to get a rise out of me.
You are so far off by making remarks that you can't understand why Trump wants to deport our enemies (Islamic Muslims) that want to and are killing innocent Americans (Soon to come to Britain) and the drug lords, rift raft, baby makers for anchor babies, decease carriers, and the gangs from Mexico.
I know you are smarter then that (and probably twice as good looking) to make such idiot rationales.

Looks like both Trump and Hillary are walking away here today with the votes on super Tuesday.
We will know for sure in another twelve hours.
I shutter to think that America can't come up with something better then those two.
I seriously would vote for Joe the plumber before I would either of those two as he has much more common sense and dignity.
If it comes down to just those two to vote for I will abstain from voting at all.

Lyzko
1 Mar 2016  #572

The Idiot Factor certainly is important with John Q. Public, Johnny! You're right. Perhaps that's why Christie was and is so popular. Think he's buckin' for Veep if Donny Boy wins?? Personally, I ain't even layin' odds:-)

TheOther
1 Mar 2016  #573

I shutter to think that America can't come up with something better then those two. I seriously would vote for Joe the plumber before I would either of those two as he has much more common sense and dignity.

Embarrassing, but true.

+1

AdrianK9
1 Mar 2016  #574

I want Trump to win just so Al Sharpton leaves, just hope he actually keeps his word.

insider.foxnews.com/2016/02/29/celebrities-say-theyll-leave-country-if-donald-trump-wins

If that does happen I will help him pack his bags..

God I hate that guy.

porky pok
1 Mar 2016  #575

Trump will win.Did you see how AL lost his hair?

AdrianK9
1 Mar 2016  #576

Although I want him to win, I feel he may have alienated a bit too many blacks and Hispanics. Actually, I really don't care all that much who wins as long as it's not Bernie or even worse Hillary.

Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson are clowns. Those kind of people show that it's okay to be racist, as long as it's against white people.

porky pok
1 Mar 2016  #577

In Texas already there isa new record of voter turnout.Reports say Trump maybe leading.

johnny reb
1 Mar 2016  #578

Rubio is out of it after today.
It will be between Cruz and Trump with odds heavy in favor of The Trumpster.
as long as it's not Bernie or even worse Hillary.

Hillary is carrying a lot of weight as e-mail after e-mail coming out showing and confirming her failure after failure.
In fact everything she touches has turned out to be a failure yet people are still voting for the dear confirming the European line of "Dumb Americans".
Sadly it's true.

porky pok
1 Mar 2016  #579

Johnny,wanna bet a economy return ticket to Poland who will be the president?I say Pani HRC.
NOW*

Ironside
2 Mar 2016  #580

say Pani HRC.

That would be disaster. Yet you might be right.

johnny reb
2 Mar 2016  #581

As long as the "Anointed One" refuses to have his attorney General charge her she should have a free pass.
That will be Trumps strongest campaign strategies, convict her himself.
How she can come on t.v. and tell the American people, "What does it matter" after murdering four Americans.
She is a piece of work.
What floors me is how these low information voters will have all her felonious crimes pointed out, her lies pointed out, the huge donation from foreign countries, American Banks and Wall Street have made to the Clinton Foundation while she has been Secretary of State and on how everything that she was involved in was a failure except for her personal political and financial gains.
Hopefully Trump will be able to get her charged with her crimes before the general election by exposing this corruption.
It's our only hope.

Harry
2 Mar 2016  #582

the "Anointed One"

Sorry, who?

johnny reb
2 Mar 2016  #583

That would be our Muslim Messiah President Hussain Obama.

He ventured forth to bring light to the world with change.
The anointed one's pilgrimage to the Holy Land is a miracle in action - and a blessing to all his faithful followers​
And it came to pass, in the eighth year of the reign of the evil Bush the Younger (The Ignorant), when the whole land from the Arabian desert to the shores of the Great Lakes had been laid barren, that a Child appeared in the wilderness.
The Child was blessed in looks and intellect. Scion of a simple family, offspring of a miraculous union, grandson of a typical white person and an African peasant. And yea, as he grew, the Child walked in the path of righteousness, with only the occasional detour into the odd weed and a little blow.
When he was twelve years old, they found him in the temple in the City of Chicago, arguing the finer points of community organisation with the Prophet Jeremiah and the Elders. And the Elders were astonished at what they heard and said among themselves: "Verily, who is this Child that he opens our hearts and minds to the audacity of hope?"
In the great Battles of Caucus and Primary he smote the conniving Hillary, wife of the deposed King Bill the Priapic and their barbarian hordes of Working Class Whites
And so it was, in the fullness of time, before the harvest month of the appointed year, the Child ventured forth - for the first time - to bring the light unto all the world.

Lyzko
2 Mar 2016  #584

Although venal, thoroughly obnoxious, mean-spirited and just plain nasty, Trump is in all probability far better for the middle class than Ted Cruz, who's rhetoric reminds this poster of Scott Walker on steroids!!!

Sanders is simply too pie-in-the-sky, making Hillary about the best candidate for president around.

johnny reb
2 Mar 2016  #585

making Hillary about the best candidate for president around.

I respectfully disagree Lyzko.
Third party hopefully will replace Hillary when she goes to prison for her crimes.

Lyzko
2 Mar 2016  #586

And in turn, i.e. by the same logic, Trump should therefore follow for his con artistry etc.., Cruz and others for their philandering etc....

Of what "crimes", pray, is the woman guilty anyhow, Johnny? Whitewater is probably a shared blame with Bill (not that malfeasance ever stopped ANYBODY from becoming national leaderLOL), and what else?? Ya pinnin' the whole Paula Jones thing on Hill too?!

Why so threatened by someone who's trying to do some good for this country? As the lady said, "America is already great..."
Shame on the Donald for projecting his own inadequacies on the entire United States. Trump's not a unifier, he's polarizer par excellence, with a PHD in antic hostility from the school of hard tox:-)

johnny reb
2 Mar 2016  #587

Of what "crimes", pray, is the woman guilty anyhow, Johnny?

I guess you haven't heard of Benghazi ? (Murder) OR her sending classified top secret material on her private e-mail server to risk National Security which is nothing less then Treason.
Go back to my post #531 and read her crimes for yourself AND those are just some of them I could think of.
Class dismissed.

delphiandomine
2 Mar 2016  #588

Of what "crimes", pray, is the woman guilty anyhow, Johnny?

She's guilty of being the runaway favourite for the next President, and for being a Democrat, and for being female.

Clinton's got this one in the bag. The Republicans are going to tear themselves apart, the Democrats are behaving themselves and conducting a civilised campaign, and she has enough strength in the South to win if the GOP can't get behind Trump.

Looking rather forward to the first speech of Mrs President Clinton. Her politics of unity rather than division could herald another era of the Third Way that was so successful for Bill.

johnny reb
2 Mar 2016  #589

Clinton's got this one in the bag.

Good chance of it if she doesn't go to prison first.
I know one thing though for sure, if she does, you won't hear us Republicans carry on with the tears like you losers have in Poland none stop since your loss in the elections.

delphiandomine
3 Mar 2016  #590

I know one thing though for sure, if she does, you won't hear us Republicans carry on with the tears

... except the fact that in 2013, one survey showed that 61% of Republicans were birthers, that many Republicans still go on about Obama being Muslim and more. It's been 7 years of non-stop crying ;)

Still, the GOP has no-one to blame but themselves. The polls show that Rubio would beat Clinton, after all.

Lyzko
3 Mar 2016  #591

Nice one, Johnny, but "no dice", as we say out here:-) Benghazi was NOT Secretary Clinton's doing; it was a messy affair (as her succesor John Kerry freely admitted to the media) and she inherited a pickle of a problem, courtesy of the Bush 41' admin!

johnny reb
3 Mar 2016  #592

Benghazi was NOT Secretary Clinton's doing;

The four American's repeatedly called, sent e-mails, begging telling the State Department that they were under fire.
Since Hillary rotten Clinton was the Secretary of State at the time she inherited squat by refusing to send them re enforcements knowing that they would die if she did not. That was the Secretary of States doing Pal. Her call, remember, "What difference does it make."
This is why I call you low information voters because you are so clueless and I will be damned if it is my job to google "Benghazi" for you and let you read what happened for yourself.
There are other questions surrounding what then Secretary of State Hillary Clinton knew.
You may recall that in the days following the attack, Hillary Clinton was oddly silent.
Clinton was essentially hidden from the media, from Congress and/or anyone else with questions about the State Department's role (or knowledge) in/of the attacks.
The WSJ said "at 5:41 PM Eastern time, Mrs. Clinton called Mr. Petraeus. She wanted to make sure the two agencies were on the same page." It's entirely possible the State Department was fuzzy on what had actually happened and why. This lends even more credibility to the idea the Special Mission Benghazi Compound was simply a front for the broader CIA operations.
That operations was running weapons from Turkey to Syria.
Hillary is a war monger $$$$$$$$$$ in case you are ignorant to that too.
So please Lyzko, quit insulting my intelligence with your ignorance.

Lyzko
3 Mar 2016  #593

And YOU have all the answers, is that it Johnny Reb? Well, some of us out there want the WHOLE story, as free of Republican spindoctoring as it is of liberal navel gazing. So far, I guess we haven't quite struck a comfortable balance:-)

johnny reb
3 Mar 2016  #594

And YOU have all the answers, is that it Johnny Reb?

I just told you to google Benghazi for yourself as you seem to think it was not Hillary's doing to refuse to send re enforcements to save American lives. It all there and more of her private e-mails are being made public every day where it is written in stone.
Then she lied and said the attack was because of a movie about Allah.

Here's another one of Hillary's major screw ups.
A new in-depth report from The New York Times paints a damning portrait of former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and the US government's involvement in the war in Libya.
The most prominent of those on-the-record comments came from former Secretary of Defense Robert Gates, who claimed that the decision to go to war in Libya was heavily influence by Clinton.
In fact, Gates says she made the difference in a "51-49" decision that ultimately destroyed the country of Libya and allowed ISIS to grab new territory in the Middle East.
The breakdown of the events thoroughly supports the view that Hillary Clinton learned nothing from the Iraq War debacle.
And, according to the Times, "The lessons of the Libya experience have not tempered her more aggressive approach to international crises."
Make no mistake, Hillary Clinton is the war candidate in 2016.

Now, with Libya as a coherent political entity arguably no longer in existence, former Secretary Clinton says it is too early to tell if the war in Libya was a success or failure, and told Congress last October that, "At the end of the day, this was the president's decision."
No Sunshine, another lie, remember when Obama told you he WAS NOT in favor of it.

Lyzko
3 Mar 2016  #595

Johnny, believe only HALF of whatever you read, and even LESS of whatever you hear or see:-)

Nighty-night!

johnny reb
3 Mar 2016  #596

How about the war on drugs in Mexico Lazko.
Another one of Hillary's failures or is it.
She sent Mexico Billions of dollars of weapons, (plus other countries around the world) from Black Hawks to surveillance systems and guess what, she gets huge donations from the companies that make these weapons for the Clinton Foundation to be spent on her campaign.
Snowden blew the lid off that one with WikiLeaks.
Sikorsky, along with other companies such as General Electric, continued to reap the benefits of the drug war in Mexico even after Clinton left the State Department.
In March 2015, the department approved the sale of three Black Hawk helicopters to the Mexican military for $110 million.
This followed a larger deal in April 2014 for 18 Black Hawks at $680 million.
Notably, several of the contractors that profited from U.S. security assistance in Mexico - such as General Electric, Lockheed Martin, and United Technologies Corporation, which owns Sikorsky - reportedly contributed to the Clinton Foundation.
And according to the transparency group Open Secrets, Clinton currently tops the list of all 2016 presidential candidates in campaign contributions from the military contracting industry.
While thousands of Clinton's own emails have since been released, the secrecy continues -

Now Lyzko, I know your gal Hillary is from New York like you are so I can see why you favor her.
Got the dots connected yet to the method of her maddeness ?
She is making these huge military contractors mega bucks and in return she is getting mega donations to the Clinton Foundation while millions of people have died at her expense.
She is slicker then her husband Slick Willie was.
Trump would be much better choice between those two evils.

Harry
3 Mar 2016  #597

The four American's repeatedly called, sent e-mails, begging telling the State Department that they were under fire.

Are you still trotting out that tired old piece of rubbish?!

johnny reb
3 Mar 2016  #598

Such a statement only shows your ignorance on the subject Harold.
That old rubbish will soon make Water Gate look like a walk in the park.
Those highly classified government documents that Hillary sent on her personal computer (a felony for each one sent) intentionally were to cover up her tracks.
Her personal ip sever is not one that is secure so every country in the world had access to those highly classified U.S. Government documents which means they are no longer classified which breaches our Nation Security. (Treason)
I see this morning on the news that one of Hillary's Aids is being given complete immunity for cooperating with the F.B.I.'s investigation.
This is just STARTING to get good Harold.
Why to you think America refers to the Clintons as the Clinton Crime family ?
Hopefully she will be indicted before the elections rather then after.
I will be happy to send you the book when it comes out that will be filled with that old rubbish of all her lies, bribes, foreign campaign contributions, cover ups, how much money she approved to be spent for military equipment to be sold to other countries and how many millions those countries donated back to the Clinton foundation and how much the corporations that manufactured the military weapons contributed to her campaign fund.......
Ah yes Harold, is that the "old Rubbish" that you are referring to ?

AdrianK9
3 Mar 2016  #599

After seeing how many people support Clinton, especially in the south, I have lost faith in the average American... Do these people not read or watch the news? I mean nearly every outlet reported on the email scandal, her failures in Benghazi, her lies about being broke after Bill left the white house? I mean it looks like she can't make it more than 3 years without some major scandal occuring.

Those are the ones that the news reports on. What about her turning $1,000 investment in cattle futures into $100,000, receiving funds into the Clinton foundation from shady characters (I.e. government of Morrocco sent her $1mil despite in 2001 her calling Morrocco 'a corrupt state guilty... of corruption in all branches of government'), getting her husband to release Puerto Rican terrorists responsible for bombings and murders in New York to help get her to the senate as well as Marc Rich, a notorious tax evader to the tune of over $40 mil because of course he donated funds to the Clintons, claiming she is broke despite pruchasing 2 homes worth nearly $4mil (one in 1999 and the other in 2000), the whole watergate scandal, her dealings with Iran, throwing a $750k gala and saying it cost $1mil so she can pocket the difference, repeatedly changing her stance on just about everything from iran, to immigration, to the iraq war, depending on what's popular. 7 days after a waitress was shot in the 'sanctuary city' she condemned the policy and says she has no support for such policies towards illegal immigrants. The very next day her campaign stated: "Hillary Clinton believes that sanctuary cities can help further public safety, and she has defended those policies going back years.' Her lie about 'Landing under fire in Bosnia' has also been well documented and even she admitted that exaggerated the whole thing! She doesn't even care that her husband screws around on her like she'll put up with infidelity if it means in return she'll have personal power.

I guess maybe it is better to support her... afterall you could wind up dead like Vince Foster (read 'The Clinton Body Count - here's a short article on it
wnd.com/1999/01/3518/
or in prison like Peter Franklin Paul - who despite numerous photographs at galas (which he oftentimes hosted, promoted, and/or fiannced) with Hillary she claimed that she never knew him.They use to be friends till he exposed a corruption scandal on how she got into the Senate and was promptly put into prison with his assets confiscated.

I just don't understand how anyone could support such a person... She makes Bernie Madoff look like a saint. She even tried to take $190k worth of items from the white house after Bill left the presidency and vandalized the place (the 'W' key was destroyed on computer keyboards as Bush was getting ready to move in), she has no shame.

Here is a great book that every person should read before deciding whether to vote for hillary: Scroll to chapter 5 - it discusses some more of her scandals

books.google.com/books?id=wTluOHsLZZAC&pg=PT17&lpg=PT17&dq=hillary+prison+blood&source=bl&ots=pK-ncaMTX2&sig=zz9cmr0t_RIKOq2Bq7ZG-V5_sD8&hl=en&sa=X&ei=SfRUVfrBDMn3sAXKn4CoAw&ved=0CDMQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=hillary%20prison%20blood&f=false

This is a good one too: Clinton Cash - I just bought this one not too long ago but I'm only about 20 or so pages into it

superstore.wnd.com/Clinton-Cash-The-Untold-Story-of-How-and-Why-Foreign-Governments-and-Businesses

Lyzko
3 Mar 2016  #600

Trump's agenda frightens me and for that reason, unlike the German people who voted for Hitler in '33 because they were looking for easy answers to tough questions, I don't intend to be suckered into the same maelstrom of hatred, bigotry and violence!

Just remember: "The most poisonous tree, is the bigoTREE, and it yields only rotten fruit!"


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