2016 Presidential Elections in the US

Hitler was appointed, not elected.

First thing nobody voted for Hitler and second thing what Hitler has to do with the presidencial election in the USA?

Hitler was elected.

How can you not know that?

@TheOther and Wulkan,

First of all, as a college instructor of history, I must inform you that Hitler was most definitely "elected", not appointed or annointed etc.., albeit not be a majority:-) Hitler authorized the so-called "Enabling" or "Empowering Act" (Ermaechtigungsgesetz) of 1933. Trump will be truly "elected" and herein lies the even more insidious difference. Trump honestly feels that he and he alone understands what Americans (think they) want. HAH!

The parallels between Trump's and Hitler's appeal are blatantly obvious to anyone with eyes, ears and a brain!! Trump posits simple answers to complex questions, e.g. build a wall south of the border, ban Muslims etc..., much as Hitler demonized the Jews, making them scapegoats for the failures of the Germans themselves to determine both their OWN thinking and their own democratic future. "Get rid of the enemy.." cried Hitler, "and life will be good again!"

Sorry boys, that's not the way things work.

You can find similarities to anybody if you're looking hard enough for them. Personally i wouldn't want to discredit Hitlers intelligence by way of association to Trump.

Hitler made good on his promises to the Germanic people, Trump wouldn't be able to match that.

Trump is a bafoon, an idiot, the kind of old man who runs round the garden for hours playing with three year olds. and the thickos love him.

What kind of college is that? The "University for the Anglo-American Version of History"? LOL!

The November 1932 election had the following outcome: NSDAP (33.09%), SPD (20.43%) and KPD (16.86%). The Nazis were in the minority.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_federal_election,_November_1932

Simple explanations for the complicated historical process that followed:

bbc.co.uk/schools/gcsebitesize/history/tch_wjec/germany19291947/1hitlerchancellor1.shtml
theholocaustexplained.org/ks3/the-nazi-rise-to-power/how-did-the-nazis-gain-support/hitler-becomes-chancellor/

And Jesus wept.
My post #531 and AdrianK9's post #599 to start with.
After reading them slowly please comment if we haven't answered your low information voter question.

And these are the guys dumbing down our kids......with honest questions like, "Of what "crimes", pray, is the woman guilty anyhow, Johnny?"
You are living proof Lyzko of how our children are being brainwashed and dumbed down.
I hope you were just teasing me with that question and not being serious........where you ?

By the way, one Harvard political theorist wrote an interesting opinion piece for the Washington Post re. comparing Trump and Hitler. Did you see it?

washingtonpost.com/opinions/moment-of-truth-we-must-stop-trump/2016/02/21/0172e788-d8a7-11e5-925f-1d10062cc82d_story.html

You got it right!

You mean some illogically blinded activist who is dumb as f...!?

Trump is not that bad, second is Sanders, Hillary is the worst, and she is establishment to the core. At least those two males are anti-establishment somewhat.
Hitler? That dude as a popular pop-culture figure is overused and meaningless? What Hitler and the Nazi Germany from historical reality and not from the present pop-cultural American goo has to do with the election and presidencies candidates - nothing!
Only an ignorant goon would have claimed otherwise! That or a progressive activist as they're beyond the pale in their unashamed stupidity.

@Johnny, YOU are living proof that the US has become a bare-knuckes, no-holds-barred, raw cesspool of social sewage, so bereft of the civility in (recent!!) days gone by, it's hard even to respond to your various replies:-)

Hitler lost to Hindenburg for the presidency but was then later appointed by Hindeburg to be the chancellor. Comparing Hitler to our presidential candidates is just nonsense. The only similarities during Hitler's campaigns and the present is that the economy is not doing well although the situation was far worse in pre WW2 Germany. Actually, Germany just finished paying off their WW1 reparations a few years ago I think like 2005 or 2010.

Anyway, it seems like it's a crime now to question the establishment and question people's false sense of being a victim. Even worse, the liberal media spews this crap and furthers the racial, cultural, economic, and even gender divide. It's gotten to the point where if you are a successful, Catholic, white, and male you are viewed as inherently evil.

The media continually tells people that they are the victim which is disrespectful to true victims and also makes people hate their 'abusers'

Here's a few examples:
huffingtonpost.com/2015/05/20/1-in-5-college-study-raped_n_7293068.html
Recently, there was a big campaign by women rights groups stating that 1 in 5 (don't remember the exact number) women have been raped on college campuses. Already my B.S. alarm goes off because if 20% of women were raped in college there would be a total firestorm. The way they got to this number is by having women answer a questionnaire - as stated in this article. However, they did not state what questions these participants were asked. Well, they didn't write that because these questions included such idiotic questions like 'Have you ever had sex when you were drunk?' 'Have you ever been touched when you did not want to be?' and so on. This means that if a women was kissed when she did not want to be that qualifies as a rape victim. I can only imagine how a woman that was truly raped must feel when she sees garbage like this. The official line from the Department of Justice is as follows:
"The rate of rape and sexual assault was 1.2 times higher for nonstudents (7.6 per 1,000) than for students (6.1 per 1,000)' This means that the real statistic is actually 6.1 rape victims (includes BOTH women and men) for 1,000 people in college.
Statements like these make women hate men and view them as potential rapists.

The 76 cents for every 1 a man makes statement. Hillary Clinton and Obama LOVES this one.
Also bogus. Yes, men do make more than women. This statistic was made by comparing ALL female jobs to ALL male jobs. It did not accounts for experience, education levels, position within the company, and so on. Women typically chose jobs in P.R., education, social work, nursing, and also take time off work for maternity leave. On the other hand, careers that are more popular with men include computer programming, petroleum engineering, fishing, construction, chemistry, etc. Of course an oil rig worker is going to make more than a social worker or kindergarten teacher. When adjusting for position the gap is almost nonexistent.
The Dems love this garbage and clap like wild whenever Hillary mentions this. However, they won't actually even attempt to see how this statistic was conducted, what were the data pools, and how did the person end up at the conclusion, etc.

I just don't understand how we got to this point. We use to look up to the financially successful and tell them 'good for you, you've attained the American dream!' attitude. Now, this group is viewed as the reason for holding back women and minorities. Men are viewed as being potential rapists. The Guardian columnist Julie Bindel even said that all men should be put into camps. Catholics use to be regarded as good moral people and now they're vilified as backwards, misogynistic, and anti-gay. The fact is Catholic charities are helping millions around the world - even non Catholics. Just because we believe in God and Jesus does not make us 'hate science' or be against progress when in fact there are priests advancing fields of astrophysics and teaching subjects in private schools aside from just theology. Yes, we don't believe in gay marriage and are against it - that is OUR RIGHT guaranteed by the constitution. Of course, this right is totally ignored and we are forced to accept and love the gays - being tolerant is no longer enough. The blacks want the whites to apologize for being born white. (here's a few straight white males apologizing for being born white - mrconservative.com/2014/05/40776-not-satire-straight-white-men-apologize-for-being-white/
I mean even Macklemore has a song called 'White Privilege' where he basically apologizes for being white.

Has this whole country gone crazy?

Trump's a demagogue, pure and simple! The comparison with Hitler is more than apt:-) Both offered seemingly easy "solutions" to highly complex geopolitical questions, merely by pandering in the most vulgar manner to an ignorant aka illiterate and unsuspecting public.

The similarities speak for themselves.

That is easily understood as you are a low information liberal as you have self admitted by asking, "What crimes has Hillary committed" ?
You don't think it was hard for me to respond to such ignorance ?
My gosh boy don't you listen to the nightly news or read a newspaper occasionally ?
How could a college professor ask such a dumb question as that which makes me doubt you really are one.

That is what gets your ''Politically Correct Liberal' knickers in a knot...... Us Political Incorrect old school, bare knuckles, gun toten', Bible thumpin', hard workin', tax payin', beer drinkin', all American, Politically Incorrect Constitutionalists that built this great country telling you limp wristed fems that you aren't going to dumb us down into becoming losers as yourselves to destroy America like how your last elected Muslim Liberal President has for the last eight years to destroy everything he possibly could in this country of OURS.
Trumps is gonna change all that with the pendulum swinging back the other way with his FIRST ORDERS OF BUSINESS as President of the United States is to UNDO every executive order that Hussain signed that was Unconstitutional !
He will go down as the worst President of all time and to think the low information voters elected him TWICE which confirms them being uneducated idiots.
The second thing he is going to do is indict Hillary, prosecuted her and put her in prison for life !
Third thing he is going to do is get rid of the new Common Core Crap implemented in our schools by the Liberals.
And then he will go try out some of those new bunker bombs that can go down two hundred feet below the earth and thru thirty feet of reinforced concrete in the first country that provokes him. lol
And you Liberals pucker hole is going to pucker so tight when he does it that you won't be able to fart.
And how do they say it at McDonalds...........I'm lovin' it !

P.S. Since you don't stay current on the news, Last night ALL the GOP candidates agreed on, and said, that if Trump gets the nomination for the GOP that they ALL would stand behind him and support him.
OOH RAH !

Am not responsible for their shortcomings! Anyhow, Hill will win:-)

Unless Hillary gets elected.. or maybe Obama will still hold that title but I predict Hilary will protect him as much as she possibly and limit the amount of dirt that gets exposed. Nonethless, I predict some NY Times bestsellers coming out on this topic shortly after Obama leaves the White House. Hillary will go down as the most scandal ridden for sure before she even steps food inside. Just imagine how many more scandals will occur with her as president.


Sometimes the most simple solutions are the best. What's wrong with building a wall to protect your borders? China did it to keep the Mongols centuries ago - I wonder if the local democrats were complaining too about this. One of the reasons why the tax system is so messed up in the US is because it is an extremely complicated progressive tax code that is longer than a Harry Potter book.

Unfortunately, there is a good chance Hillary will win I do agree with you on that Lyzko. That makes me sad because the masses that support her either don't care about all her scandals or they simply don't know. Same thing when Mitt ran for president. He was obviously the better choice but apparently the welfare recipients and those who got healthcare for free now didn't think so. They were more focused on Romney's wealth than on how high the debt rose under Obama in 4 years.

I find it hard to believe that they simply are ignorant of all her terrible policies and constant scandals (Hillarycare, Benghazi, making contradictory statements based on whatever is popular like the Iraq war and illegal immigration) so I seem to think that they just don't care and that's even worse.

The GOP is very divided right now and I feel as if there are other forces manipulating the party to undo Trump. To me personally the two parties are merely two separate puppets being controlled by the same puppet master - i.e. special interest groups, lobbyists, Zionist money, etc. Trump isn't controlled like the other candidates and I worry since he can't be 'bought' now these same groups are trying to hurt him as much as possible to get their own people inside the government. I think it's awesome though that at least some minorities have begun to see Obama's and the rest of his administration's failures. Although most minorities are still brainwashed and still support Obama and blame his shortcomings on Congress.

You sure do talk a load of utter bollox Adrian, ill give you that. Most of it copied.....anyway obviously.

I didn't copy any of that.. I wrote it all out myself..

Tell what exactly did I copy? Better yet, tell me what is bollocks in your opinion?

The only things I copied were from sources where I listed those specific sources and put quotations around it... like the Department of Justice statistic...

You copied everything, absolutely everything. People like you think you have intelligent opinions arrived at my critical thinking but you really don't.

You're so typically American, its really annoying.

According to that thinking, Adrian, what's wrong with the Nazis wanting to and eventually murdering Jews as the "final solution" to a supposed problem (which of course turned out to be in their prejudiced minds!!)?? You don't make sense. Your argument's barking up the wrong tree, I'm afraid.

And NO, simple answers are all too often merely dangerously simple-MINDED excuses for failing to come up with more well-developed plans!
In this country especially, we seem to bow down to the infantile, childish and bullying as the so-called "direct" approach to things.

Well, guess what? Children, love 'em as I do, are by definition not as yet developed on an adult level of either reasoning or judgement! Therefore, to side with youth instead of age aka experience and wisdom is clearly the wrong side, and was once viewed as such until the not so recent past:-)

You have got to be kidding me. You are an idiot making such assumptions. First off, I was born in Poland and have traveled to approximately 3 dozen countries in my less than 3 decades on this planet. I hold a degree in international business from a prestigious university and frequently travel around the world in my position as well. I subscribe to various publications on economics and have read many books both on the topics of economics and politics. I was also a commodity broker in my last job and dealt with clients from all over the world. Of course that makes me a typical American with absolutely no knowledge on macroeconomics and how it is influenced by politics. In one post on here earlier, I wrote about taxes and the Laffer Curve - do you even know what that is? Oh well it doesn't matter because of course I plagiarized it. Sorry, none of my writing is original because I'm unable to articulate my own thoughts. Perhaps I am copying this post, which is a response like the ones above, as well?

Please find the sources where I copied this from. When I am citing a source I clearly put it in quotations as make sure I copy the source as well like with the Huffington post article above or examples about Hillary Clinton scandals and the Migrant Crisis in former posts on PF.
I am replying to Lyzko's statements, yet you accuse me of plagiarizing a freaken response to something as specific as his comparison of Donald Trump and Hitler's simplistic solutions to complex issues? Just because you have a below average intellect, as evident by your asinine assumptions, does not mean every one else does and hence must copy others' works.

I replied to Hitler losing an election to Hindenburg but Hindenburg appointing him to the Chancellorship - that's copied right? Please find source that I copied this from.
I explain how the 1/5 female rape statistic and 76 cents on the dollar statistic is bogus - copied as well right? Please find the original source.
Even in my last post I answered his statement of how Trump, like Hitler, offered seemingly easy solutions to complex problems by explaing that oftentimes the simplest solution, like building a wall, is often the best - but of course I 'stole' that idea even though it's clearly a response to Lyzko. Again, please find the original source to discredit me.
Furthermore, I agreed with Lyszko stating that Hillary will most likely win because people simply seem not to care about all the scandals she was involved in - that's obviously copied too!

I don't need to plagiarize as I can form my own opinions and articulate them coherently. In addition, I cite sources to further my argument - that is not copying.

How about instead of accusing me of copying you actually come up with some evidence of plagiarism? Just because someone is more articulate than you and can form a coherent statement does not mean that their words are plagiarized.

Moron... I can already predict what you're response is.. ugh well I'm not going to bother finding the sources because it's easier to call you names and make stupid accusations that actually provide some real evidence... Go gargle with hydrochloric acid..

Fan of Alex Jones, Adrian?

...to which it might be added that Field Marshall Hindenburg was by that time a somewhat senile old man, barely able to either outfox or certainly outmatch the up-and-coming much younger future Fuehrer, the latter's senior by some thirty or more years:-)

The now infamous "Staatsakt" or "Handing over the reigns of power" to Hitler, took place shortly before the former Field Marshall's own demise. As president, Hindenburg was more a figurehead than much else, often laughed at behind his back as he innocently believed himself still to be at the height of his glory.

Don't know till this day who was more laughable, Hindenburg for underestimating Hitler, or Sir Neville Chamberlain, who REALLY underestimated the FuehrerLOL

All this though, has little to do with the thread:-) Trump however, apart from his Germanic patralineage, doesn't exactly beggar comparison with the Bohemian Corporal that much, does he?

Nah, not at all. Hitler had the SS and SA behind him, he had the support of the middle classes - Trump has nothing comparable.

Trump is just opportunistic. It's pretty obvious that he doesn't really care about the right to bear arms, he's obviously completely blagged his way through the Christianity part, he's not a hardliner on abortion, etc etc. He's just realised that simple rhetoric about Muslims and the size of his penis will beat Rubio's scripted nonsense and Cruz's crap.

I never said that anything about the Nazis. The only comparison I ever made with the Nazis was that Adolf Hitler and Trump both became popular during times of economic downtown - although in Germany this was much worse than in the US today. I don't know how you're arriving at this conclusion? Are you saying that Donald Trump is acting like Adolf Hitler did? You're the one that keeps going on about Hitler, the Nazis, etc. and comparing them to Trump.


One of the issues in our country is that the bureaucracy has gotten totally out of hand. The government has their hand in every industry and does not let the free market thrive. Politicians keep going on and on about making a new law for this new bill for that but oftentimes these new bills and laws are not necessary.

No, complex issues do not ALWAYS require a complex solution. A good example of this is fixing the tax code - we have the most complicated tax code of any country in the world.

Yes, and the politicians love to appeal to our inner child. I actually wrote about this a few posts back. Politicians promise things like 'free health care' 'free education' and all this 'free stuff.' This is similar to when a child receive free toys and candy. They are happy they received it, then they become accustomed to it, and then eventually come to expect it. However, they fail to realize that their parents must pay for these 'free' items so they are not in a sense free. In our country, the politicians stir the masses with 'free health care' and 'free education' but the fact is these are not free because taxpayers must pay for them.
Kind of like the 'Affordable care act' - last time I checked it's not affordable at all if you're a middle class worker.

Agreed on last point, somewhat. Other than that, don't be suckered in by Trump either! Even Mitt's agin' 'm, he-heLOL

More John Stossel. I also like Al-Jazeera

However, I don't stick to just one news outlet. I actually will watch even very liberal new outlets to get an idea of where they are coming from. I don't just disagree with someone without understanding what their thought process is and how they arrived at some conclusion. I understand many of the liberal arguments but I think their argument that big government, higher taxes, redistribution of wealth, etc. is going to help the U.S. economy is rather weak.

I don't think that Trump has good ideas on everything - I will be the first to admit that as a supporter of his. Many of his ideas are far fetched and skewed.

The only reason why I think he would make a better president than any of the other choices is that he is not bound by all the special interest groups, Zionist and Wall Street money, lobbyists, etc. Also, unlike Obama, he actually listens to his advisers and does not take the 'my way or the highway' approach with everything like Obama does.

Adrian, as I take it you're too young to have experienced the New Deal Era in full throttle, i.e. from around 1950-1964 (?), many of your ideas are admittedly rather naive, though not necessarily dangerous (unless taken to the extreme, of course):-)

Me, I'm a '59er, fifty-six years of age, but consider myself a capitalist, though of the FDR-liberal sort. Although the Supreme Court aka Justice Louis Brandeis, did take issue with Roosevelt on several economic issues while in his second term of office, by and large, the New Deal salvaged the US from a return to a Dickensian America, where the poor promptly died on our city streets, where there was no minimum wage, where the boss was king and there was not recourse if the worker ran afoul etc....

Is this a world you'd like you or your family to return to?? I sure wouldn't!!

I take you were too Professor. lol
Here we go again with the big deal 56 year old history professor camped on the New Deal.
He must have got an "A" on his test in high school on the New Deal.

You need some new material Lyzko. That was then, this is now.
We have food stamps and many other Socialist programs today for people that don't know how to feed themselves.

Adrian you will soon learn that Yosemite (formally Wroclaw Boy) is a blazing narcissist.
He tried his same belittlement tactics on me when I first came here with his below average intellect.

You're being an idiot again Yose.

The typical American gave you his resume Yose so don't you think you ought to give him yours ?
Tell him how much you can dead lift or how big your triceps are.
Strong back, weak mind.
I rest my case.
See the conflict here Adrian with the anti Trumpsters is that you and I are like Trump when it comes to their "Progressive Thinking" and "Political Correctness".
We tell them that it is meaningless to us which renders them dumbfounded in being able to debate the truth.
They can't argue the truth so they start the name calling.
Typical Progressive Liberal Socialists that are and have ruined America.
They are scared to death that President Trump will put the whole damn bunch of them in prison.

Trump and "the truth" are mutually exclusive.


Just like Adolf, eh?