2016 Presidential Elections in the US

"Knock the crap out of 'em, would you? Seriously. Just knock the hell- I promise you, I will pay for the legal fees, I promise." -Donald Trump at his campaign rally on 2/1/16

Shocking stuff, granted its edited for shock value but still very disturbing.

youtube.com/watch?v=bTz7DlhlZiE

It usually works for a post or two and then becomes glaringly transparent.
Atch nailed his ears to the wall using different words but said the same thing which reddened his face but good.
This is why the latest new members here have been such a breath of fresh air by standing up to and knocking the Brits down like they have done of years in the past to new members so they could control the forum.
Their utopia has finally fallen (along with the Brit members posting) that controlled the flow here.
It does my heart so much pleasure to hear non Brits tell Brits, "Oh Bull. S. !"
On a happier note:


If you would listen to what the AMERICANS are tell you mate you wouldn't be shocked but you still will be disturbed.
Listen up now Mate, "The Trumpster is not being weighed down with the Lefts CRUTCH of Political Correctness which BLOWS the Lefts Progressive Thinking right out of the water.
DID YOU GET IT THAT TIME ! ????
The American people have had a belly full of Progressive Thinking as it has DESTROYED America and Americas values and culture.
Get it ! That's why Trump is going to be the nominee and most likely win the Presidency.
He could care if you are shocked or disturebed. Get use to it mate.
The pendulum is starting to swing back the other way. Accept reality mate.
You have shoved your political correctness down OUR throats for the last two decades and now it is OUR turn to shove OUR ideals down yours for the next decade. Get use to it mate.

My question to you is "why would someone go to someone's rally if they DID NOT support them ?"
To cause trouble, that's why.
Trump has had a belly full of this generation of self proclaimed politically correctness ideology.
He told them, "you want to come here looking for trouble you will get the hell knocked out of you (something your mother should have done to them at about five years old) so stay away or take the chance of getting the hellknocked out of you."
HA ! see how that works mate. It's called The school of Hard Knocks.
And the idiots STILL show up looking for a windfall law suit to support them the rest of their lives.
You know why you don't see White people rioting at Hillary's rallies ???? Because they are all working.

Given the quality of school education in your home state, I can safely assume that you don't even know where that is... :)

Donald Trump is merely a bully who has had in his life the opportunity through his wealthy family to give louder voice to his own ideology of selfishness and winner-take-all thinking. That he despises political correctness is hardly surprising, since he's never been affected by the effects of political INcorrectness which dominated much of our society until the advent of the 90's!

Although I find much political correctness completely over the top, the converse is equally bad!! With Trump, making fun of the handicapped, people with one extremity shorter than another, indeed the weaker in general, would now become the order of the day:-)

HEIL TRUMP???

Heaven (and even the Republican Party) help us!!

That went over your head too didn't it.
Trump was making fun of the media for using a handi cap as a "tool" for their advantage.
He mocked them to show that he wasn't falling for their Political Correctness "crutch" as a pity party bigot card.
It is the media that should be shamed for using the handi cap to benefit, not Trump.
What's the use.........some people are so blind to it.
Take Hillary's sins that everyone is blind to.
No, let's not because, "What difference does it make now." nlol

Exactly what kind of disrespectful entitled idiot one has to be to do disrupt rallies?
Did you see that big boo whoa about that 80 years old dude who give one of those insulting morons a slight tap to the head? All those congregated bigots on TV screen yapping about it ten times an hour - WTF?

To be honest johnny there were white people taking part in that anti-American BS too! DiMaggio even went for Trump.

Makes no difference if he is voicing citizens concerns and expectations.

I cannot see a chance at all for clinton to beat trump when he gets up. She is part of the out of fashion deluded left who are losing power all over the world.

Clinton might have quite a few smelly skeletons in the closet, but so does Drumpf. You only need half a brain cell to see that his campaign promises are not worth the paper they are written on. The US simply isn't rich enough to finance what he's promising. Which leaves us with major cut backs in all other sectors except the military budget, and additional debt. And where will this money come from? Right, China... . Funny that this is the country Trump wants to pick a trade war with, isn't it?

It will all depend on whether Clinton has to stand trial for her e-mail server and will be convicted, or not. If yes and Sanders becomes the Democratic candidate, Trump will win hands down simply because of all candidates Sanders would be the worst choice for the country. If no, the NYC loudmouth will vanish as quickly as he appeared. Not even the GOP is standing behind him. He still gets much less than 50% of the vote, which means that the majority of Republicans are against him. Hopefully, I might add, because that guy isn't fit to fill the most important and powerful job on the planet. Clinton ... the same ... but she's the lesser evil.

Hussain Obummer had the same problem and it didn't stop him from putting us into a 20 trillion dollar deficit.
Hell if the Trumpster only spends half that we can build the Trump Wall out of gold and have money left over for the abled bodied welfare leeches to remain on welfare, give everyone free health care, forgive all the trillions in student loans, pass the diaper bill.........
Oh haven't you heard Hussain wants to pass a diaper bill now for free diapers for the poverty people. (My mother washed them out and re used them but at $25 a box for throw aways for free why would they wash them when they can fill up the land fills with them) :-/
I can't understand why people on poverty that can't afford children keep pumping them out besides the fact the government (working people) are forced to pay for their children plus their own.
I am getting old and on a fixed income so maybe Obama's diaper bill will cover my diapers too. lol

What ever happened to the 5 billion dollars of government money that Hillary "misplaced ?" lol
The Donald never murdered anyone like Hillary did in Benghazi. nlol
No son, The Trumpsters sins don't come close to as many or definitely the severity as the Clinton Crime families.
Let me know if you want to compare them one for one. lol
The Democrats Progressive Thinking has destroyed America, the Republicans Congress & Senate have caved to the Washington D.C. mafia by being part of it so the people have had a belly full and will elect the Trumpster to shake things up. YOUR FIRED !

Nice try, Johnny. At the end of G.W. Bush's term, the gross federal debt was $10.63 trillion. At the moment it is around $19.1 trillion, which includes the cost for the bailout.

politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/apr/09/rand-paul/rand-paul-debt-has-tripled-bush-took-office/


That's what Trump would say. Us regular folks would use "You're fired" instead. LOL!

Oh my aching body........after 7 1/2 years it's still Bush's fault. LOL
The gross federal debt under Obama -- as of April 7, 2015 -- is $18.15 trillion.
So, the debt is a little more than triple what the debt was when he took office.
So if Trump triples it again we can have the Trump Wall made out of gold and all the other stuff he is promising.
Point - It didn't work tripling the debt under the Democrats way of printing money out of thin air so we could "spend our way out of debt" by putting us in debt so far that it is mathematically impossible to ever get out SO why shouldn't the Trumpster get to afford the same privilege to triple the debt again and just see if he can't make good on his promises. huh ?

On Clinton's last day in office, the gross federal debt was at $5.77 trillion. On President Bush's last day in office the gross federal debt was $10.626 trillion. Now it's $19.1 trillion. How is that triple of what Bush left behind?

Actually, Rand Paul said something else.

Quote from the source above:
"Paul wasn't saying the debt has tripled under Obama alone. Instead, he was saying that it doubled under President George W. Bush. And since Obama took office, it has risen to a point that is triple what it was when Bush first took office."


Not enough cash in China...


To a certain extent, yes.

@Johnny, I think that one went over YOUR head, considering it even houses a working brainLOL

@Ironside, I presume you didn't realize what you were posting just then:-) So, if the people's will is to deport Muslims, kill the terrorists' whole family, build a wall between the US and Mexico, well, I guess because Trump Almighty has so decreed, that makes it okay!!!! Hitler, Stalin, Idi Amin, Pol Pot and countless others throughout history have voiced the same bull, and this doesn't seem to bother you.

Don't have anymore so say (since you haven't a leg to stand on as a counter argument).

This might help you decide who to vote for president.
youtube.com/watch_popup?v=jeYscnFpEyA

Oh, don't worry, your position is very clear. When reading your posts the terms "champagne socialist", "limousine liberal" and "caviar communist" come to mind. Are you related to or on a first name basis with Russell Brand?


Exactly. So why be so critical of Trump then and start this thread in the first place? He's just operating within the free market system and has been personally successful doing so. He didn't create the system and millions of people have been lifted out of poverty thanks to capitalism. Why do you think for generations millions have left the third world to go to capitalist countries? In order to spread socialism? Ha! No, because they know the opportunities and standard of living for the majority living in capitalist countries far exceed those in controlled economies. Are there excesses at times? Sure. It's cyclical. But it isn't just banks and businessmen but more dangerously governments which are guilty of overreach, corruption and despotism. And history shows over and over again that the most criminal and bloodstained governments in the history of the world had the word "socialist" somewhere in their name along with false promises of utopia.


So what? Trump has a family and commitments too. So do many members of the 1% and the 99%.


You know yourself that you don't need money to provide for them. You could easily make do with a subsistence lifestyle; perhaps even as part of a commune which shares your ideology. But instead you elect to pour your time and energy redoing a McMansion hoping to flip it for a big profit and then come on PF and start moaning how men like Trump really chap your hide and so somehow a rickety old white socialist like Bernie Sanders would make America great again. LOL! You just can't make this stuff up! LOL!


There is nothing wrong with the system itself. The system was created by individuals over millennia. It's tried and tested and it is what works.

The truth is it's a problem for easily distracted work-shy individuals who desperately want a life of perpetual leisure and resent having to hustle to get it. It's also a problem for those who are conflicted with having middle class guilt but genuinely fear slipping back into the lower orders of society. So they advocate for "socialism" in the hope governments will only go for the most wealthy in society rather than themselves.

You need to realize though that people like you will always be stuck in the middle. Governments will always tax the largest social class out there and either pass the benefits off to the very poor or the very rich.


See above answers.


Effective but not successful. That's the motto of a slacker and not that of a "slave to the system." That's why you envy Trump.


I'm sure the great social justice warriors and now legends like Mahatma Gandhi and Rosa Parks also had their own doubts as they pondered what fundamental change they could make in the face of adversity.

Nonetheless they were the agents of change of their day and didn't sit on the sidelines waiting for others to start a grass roots movement first.

So you shouldn't see putting your socio-economic creed into action first hand as an act of volunteerism. That sounds so short term and too half-hearted. You need to be in it to win it. Working in exchange for food for example would demonstrate that money is not needed to be a productive and contributing member of society. I'm sure someone like yourself who said he is otherwise effective at making money could easily find other ways to barter or use methods from your so-called "Natural Law Resource Based Economy."

But as it stands now third world countries lack what first world countries enjoy such as economic opportunities, social mobility, etc. Obviously for you that is "the system's fault." But you said you have an alternative answer and you can show third worlders this by your own example that a person doesn't need money and can even migrate from rather than to a capitalist country and still have a good if not better life elsewhere. You can also show them (and teach your family a good social justice lesson as well) that there is nothing wrong with white folk being a minority group and doing work at the very bottom of society if necessary. That's where the grass roots are anyway.

You have a golden opportunity right now to be your own agent of change. So don't wait for the first world to change. Grab your maypole and family and show the world that change is possible. Heck, you may even witness in your own lifetime the first world shedding their wicked ways and following the model you set up elsewhere. As you know some people need to see it first before they can believe it. And you can make it so. Like the American pop singer and uberwealthy one-worlder Michael Jackson said "If you wanna make the world a better place...Take a look at yourself, and then make a change...Yeah! - Make that change!"


Yeah and like most middle class Brits you all still have the bad habit of wanting to drop the word in conversations to sound a little bit edgy but qualify it so you don't look foolish and off-putting now that the word has become so tainted.

But sometimes you just can't help yourself like when you started this thread:


In fact, I'd say you are even more of a socialist than good ole' Bernie.

Just look at the demographics of where you and him have preferred to live:

State of Vermont, USA: census.gov/quickfacts/table/PST045215/50
95.0% White

Republic of Poland: Virtually 100% White

Now compare that to Trump's New York: census.gov/quickfacts/table/PST045215/36
70.4% White

Anyway, your kind talk and talk and talk of wanting a revolution but conveniently its only after your own jobs and pensions are secure but never before your own children finish their public schooling and land top jobs in top professions and get choice property in the most desirable (i.e., gentrified) areas.

Funny how this idle talk carries on generation after generation after generation.

Right, OK, I know your answer: 'It's "the system's" fault!'

By the way how does your economic slavery compare to that of someone living and working outside of it? Let's say you compare your plight to some local from Bolivia, Zimbabwe and North Korea.

The system is inherently flawed because it is based - amongst others - on the false assumption that resources and demand (and therefore growth) are unlimited. There's a word for unlimited growth: it's called "cancer", and most of the time it's deadly. Is there a better system right now? Not that I know of, but that doesn't mean that we shouldn't change anything. The banking system, which favors infinite lending (using loans to pay back other loans plus interest), could certainly use an overhaul for example.

Yes, and I think most people here agree with that. Take into account anything, lets say population? can we have infinite growth in a world limited by resource? we cant, and this is reflected in the economy. The economy simply cant keep up with population growth, at least not the way we live. When people point on European countries that have a stagnate population or are in decline, I shrug, because I understand we live in a world with limited resources and if you want to continue living the way we do, it has to be that way. I still believe capitalism works out better then socialism, but I understand its flaws, I'm not oblivious.

I agree with you on your point

Its a good video

And that's why markets should be allowed to go bust. This way new resources and demand for them can be found or replaced or fall by the wayside.

The only problem I've seen in recent years is where Governments around the world intervened to prop up the failing banks and other businesses facing ruin. Some will argue Government should be the buyer of last resort in such situations and doing so saved the day from an even worse situation. But the reality is it only kicked the can down the road.

This is as much a problem with generational attitudes which feed back into creating systemic problems. I suspect Trump doesn't want his children and grandchildren to live in an unstable and unsustainable country or planet even though many others in his self-serving self-absorbed generation would die with a big evil grin on their fat faces knowing they got away with intergenerational theft.

The ones operating on the false assumption that resources and demand are unlimited are Governments which have not been taking any action to reduce exploding birthrates around the world. They are happy to see it continue and move the problem around with migration just so someone is there to pay a tax and cast a vote to give the semblance of citizenship and democracy.


The banks were burned because Governments were encouraging them to make risky loans even to people who clearly could never afford to buy even one small home let alone several big ones (which many did). But loan they did and they got burnt doing it.

Now the pendulum has swung the other way and people complain of not being credit worthy enough to get a loan. In turn another criticism of the banks has been that at such low interest rates and tighter lending restrictions banks weren't loaning to individuals and small businesses but rather plowing the money into the stock markets to get better returns. Another house of cards? Probably but the markets are just looking for profits and hoping to get out before the next collapse.

People see Trump as a danger such as looking to physically stop or slow down illegal immigration which drives down wages or raise tariffs thus sparking a trade war. But American companies have been running a competitive race to the bottom trying to secure the lowest costs of production to sell back to the American consumer. This is nothing more than a slow suicide since increasing numbers of unemployed Americans are not going to be able to buy anything and even other growing economies don't have the social habit of spending most of their incomes on stuff they don't need like Americans have been doing for decades. So although the world is big it is either too poor or too stingy to replace the once big spending Americans.

Trump, like the other candidates to be frank, hasn't given away much in details as far as economic and job creation plans. But I gather he wants to lower taxes and make more business-friendly conditions for companies to return or expand in America. Even if American wages are higher they may be offset by the right combination of tax right-offs and reduced or eliminated regulations. And the markets and consumers around the world may in turn be willing to buy goods from America based on quality and value vice from China because they are dirt cheap but quickly disposable.

People may not want someone like Trump to be president now but if things continue to get worse people will eventual become desperate enough to let anyone have a go at the job as long as it is not some effete status quo politician and certainly not some idiot kumbaya socialist whose only solution would be to flood the West with even more unskilled cheap labor from the third world and pay for them by taxing to death what is left of the withering middle class.

You nailed it as Russell Brand "IS" Yosie's all time hero.
Gee Yosie, looks like you didn't fool Bieganski for a second. lol
Bieganski I have to tell you (since you have your PM box blocked) that Yosie and I about a year ago went around and around as he referred to Russell Brand over and over and over.
I am still impressed how you could see where Yosie rants were parroting from.......the crop failure Russell Brand.
Looks like you need to get some new material Wroclaw Boy as both Bieganski and I have told you that Russell Brand is an idiot Socialist.
Like Atch said, you are smart but far from being intelligent.
Trump today had more violence at his rally.
Wonder what the debates will be like when Trump and Hillary go head to head.
Trump is just like John F. Kennedy was, stepping on to many people's toes to a point of being a huge threat to them.
I can't wait until Trump starts dragging Broom Hillary over the coals with NO MERCY !
If Obama insists on protecting her from prison then Trump will be Judge, Jury and Executioner with nobody able to stop him.
Good old fashion karma coming down as she has finally met her match. :-)

Google "Agenda 21" which explains exactly what the Governments have in mind to reduce the world's population.

Thanks. As you know such people are very well off thanks to "the system" which they know they can openly despise without any consequences apart from looking like complete hypocritical brats and prats.

I'd say they are immensely well off when compared to those living under economies with heavy government regulation done in the name of "the people" like Venezuela (currently collapsing with violent social unrest), Zimbabwe (once the breadbasket of Africa now turned into a basket case with starving people fleeing the country in droves) and North Korea (no freedoms of any kind ever and many with stunted height due to government caused malnutrition).

For some posting on PF it's odd how after all these years they never stop to think that there may have been a very good reason why Poland was one of the first countries to throw the crippling yoke of communism off its shoulders.

For many middle class Brits socialism (or whatever moniker they want to hide it behind) is ultimately a quaint little pastime for what they would still like to regard as a furtive and rebellious topic in their capitalist based parliamentary monarchy. In reality though talking about socialism just gives them a convenient excuse to take a swipe at others they see leapfrog over them socially and economically while hoping not to look jealous and two-faced about it. But rest assured by their own refusal to live outside "the system" it is clear that the last thing they want to do is end up share anything they have with someone else (especially someone less fortunate than themselves).

That describes Socialist delph to a "T" when I have shared with the forum here about the enjoyment I have in taking duffle bags of new cloths to the poor kids in Jamaica, help pay for many of them to attend school, buy medicine, and buy tons of food for them.
(I broke down and cried one time when I was leaving when one of the little girls said, "Johnny is leaving mommy, the party is over.")
He mocks me with filthy remarks about what has brought me much enjoyment to me in sharing my wealth with the less fortunate.
PURE JEALOUSY and self guilt on his part !
There are no poor people in America compared to a third world country.
Kids that have worms because their mothers have no money for medicine. Kids that think going two days without food is normal.
Kids that sleep on a dirt floor. Kids that are beat with sticks and have no idea how to use a bathroom.
And yet the "Socialists" on this forum belly ache that the 1% have more then they do. Pfffffft !
Oh yeah Bieganski I can relate to EXACTLY what you are saying about the "REAL less fortunate" in this world that have to deal with mans inhumanity to man.

Yup, that's delph and Yosie.
Self pity parties because they don't have the motivation or brains to be what they think the world owes them.
I have sacrificed plenty to get what I have and when these "Socialists" think they have the right to demand what I have worked for is disgusting.
I usually tell them to go sh*t in one hand and hope in the other and see which one fills up the quickest.
That's why they fear Trump so bad is because he doesn't deal with their Socialist "Progressive Thinking" crutch card to get free what belongs to someone else.

4:22 This black dude would feel on this forum right at home, what an idiotic liar. It's amusing how these anti-Trump protesters come up with more and more lies.

youtube.com/watch?v=WJiMW8EHiK4

We call them 'ghetto muffins' in Chicago. The more 'ghetto muffins' you have, the larger the checks from the government. The section 8'ers have realized that about 4-5 is the optimal amount before they get to the point of diminishing returns.

Yose, I watched 1/2 that Zeitgeist Addendum move you asked me to. It's over 2 hours so I'll have to finish the rest today.

I do agree with a lot of what their saying but it's kind of a wasteful argument since there's not much you can do about it aside from recreating Fight Club in real life...

1. Yes, it is unfair that 40% of the world's wealth is enjoyed by 1% of the population and it sucks that 34,000 kids starve everyday. We as humans are competitive, evil, violent, greedy, and selfish - or at least more people are like the video said. I attribute this to Social Darwinism and survival of the fittest. Yes, it's sad that an African child is going to starve in the same way a lame deer is going to be a tasty lunch, but that's nature. Whoever has the most money essentially wins the game of life. Unless everyone stopped paying their mortgage and credit cards, which I wish would happen although I have neither, it would change a lot of social dynamics.

2. Yes, the federal reserve sucks and is a boon on humanity - it doesn't take a Yale historian to see who started this system, how it works, and who runs it to this day. Any 1st year accounting student would realize that borrowing 9x the amount on a deposit is foolish but yet that's how our country, and most other Western nations, are ran. In fact, the federal reserve system is illegal according to the constitution and this type of system is something that the founding fathers fought so hard against because similar arrangements were in their infant stages in England at the time. People fail to realize that the Federal Reserve and actually the IRS as well are actually NOT government institutions, technically. This is why I am a huge critic of Zionism who pushed for the implementation of this type of system worldwide - beginning it in Europe and exporting it to the US. And yes, it is Zionists that started it and run it to the this day. The Rothschilds were the ones to first spread this into an international system - first setting up in Frankfurt, Vienna, London, Paris, and Venice (the 4 sons and the father). Other families like the Guggenheims and Warburgs followed their example and set up in other countries. They even intermarried with royal families to gain more power. Although these families and even the siblings would have rivalries, they stuck together to control their countries' governments, banks, and media by installing their own people each working for their own interests - not the interests of the common man within the country. These banks have total control of the country they operate in because by loaning money to the government they force the government, the debtor, to enact favorable policies and if the government doesn't play ball, they will finance an opposition. Generations later, these same families are still in business and still control the policies of their countries behind the scenes. Zionists still hold all the top positions in the US Fed as well as the top positions in banks and media companies. History shows that this group, which is 1% of the population, occupies all the top positions and has near total control of the economy, politics, and media in nearly every wealthy country. What could be better than if your uncle is the head of the largest Ukrainian bank, your daughter is the Queen of Norway, your cousin is a chairman of the London fed, your brother is the CEO of some Swedish bank, your brother-in-law runs the newspapers, etc.? Oftentimes, these banks finance both sides of a conflict. Even the German Zionists sent their own person, Leon Trotsky to start a revolution in Russia to kick out the czar, control the government, and take the Russia out of the war. Now the Zionists could have their own people in both Capitalist and Communist countries, draw up phony hostilities so the government has to borrow more and more money to stockpile weapons which just sit in bunkers. People keep talking about the 6 million that died in the Holocaust yet there's little to no talk about the Bolsheviks that killed and starved millions of Ukrainian Orthodox. Even in the western part of the world during WW1 - the US was totally neutral and didn't want to get involved in the war. The politicians weren't disseminating anti-German propaganda because of the large German population. Well, the Germans had the British on their knees at one point in the war and the Brits were ready to accept defeat. The Zionists told the Brits not to surrender and that they would convince US politicians to enter the war as allies if only after the war the Brits promised the Zionists the land of Palestine (Balfour Declaration) even though this was not the Brits to give as it belonged to the Ottomans at the time. Unfortunately, the Brits made a similar promise to the Saudis to help them against the Ottoman Empire at the time (Hussein-McHanon) but that's another story. So suddenly, opinion against Germany changes seemingly overnight, a ship gets bombed by the Germans, the US and the Brits are allied, Germany gets defeated, and Zionism begins to take a firmer hold till finally in 1948 the Brits keep their promise and help conquer Palestine and give it to the Zionists. This would be equal to like if Russia promised China a fat piece of Thailand for helping them against the Japanese or something. Of course now there's been conflict in that area ever since. The IDF even destroyed a US ship and killed US servicemen (USS Liberty) yet there is investigation and nothing in the media about this? If any other country did this we would've gone to war but of course Israel gets a free pass. There are a small handful of countries that don't have this type of system although the vast majority do which is why so much wealth exists in the hands of such a few people. The countries like Iran and Cuba that don't have such a system are thought of as pariahs because international bankers can't profit off them. Even some obscure countries like Moldova are run this way to the detriment of citizens - a young 28 year old from Israel named Ilan Shor nearly collapsed the entire Moldovan banking system just decade ago by drawing up phony loans equal to nearly 10% of the entire country's GDP helping himself and his select few friends out. People lost their life savings and yet we scoff when we hear that people are being forced to sell their kidneys there so they can feed their families. Not only was this Ilan Shor character not put in jail, he ended up running for mayor of some city in Moldova and I believe he won too.. At least the PiS government is doing something about this and requiring that only a certain percent of Polish banks be owned by foreigners.

3. Hugo Chaves got killed because he spoke his mind and helped his people. He had great ideas about using oil to help the Venezuelan citizens and not international bankers so naturally he had to be taken out. He was also a firm anti-Zionist and condemned Israel as a country that commits state-sponsored genocide against Palestinians and the Lebanese. He went on TV saying that Mossad wants to kill him and that Israel is financing his opposition (the guy he ran against was Jewish - imagine that Jewish presidential candidate even in Venezuala). Any country that fights against the status-quo, international federal reserve, US dollar, international monetary system is automatically a pariah. Both republican and democratic media will talk about how they are run by tyrants and are threatening our 'freedom.' The bankers will say well this is no good - we're not profiting from so and so, the country has little to no debt, so of course the Western politicians at the mercy of all the billions and even trillions debt they've incurred from the fed will have to agree, then starts the propaganda that we have to borrow more money to bomb such and such country and kill so and so because they're a 'dictator' and that they're 'repressive' and that they are ... wait my favorite on... a danger to our 'freedom.' Hypocritical because the US murdered tens of thousands to install the same brutal type of governments that there were suppose to replace, at best, or at worst turned the country into a total failed state like in Libya, Iraq, and Afghanistan. Gaddafi was actually one of my favorite modern politicians (for one because he resisted implementing a 'federal reserve' type of system and cared for his citizens) and I have read his Green Book more than once. His ideas were great and not only did he talk the talk, he walked the walk. In Gaddafi's Libya, people had as high a standard of living comparable to those in Western Europe at the time. Healthcare was free, housing was free, citizens received dividend checks from oil sales, electricity was subsidized, gasoline was subsidized, if you wanted to start a farm the government gave you tons of cash to start it up, you could study anything you wanted and if it was unavailable in a Libyan college they'd send you abroad, you got $50,000 USD when you got married from the government, car purchases were subsidized, and unemployment was nearly non existent as was poverty because people did truly live in a socialist utopia. Most importantly, Libya HAD NO FOREIGN DEBTS AND REFUSED TO JOIN AFRICOM! Then came the final blow - Gaddafi overstepped when he decided that oil shouldn't be bought and sold in US dollars since it did not benefit the countries that were selling the oil - what a novel idea! Europe gets away with this type of currency - so why can't Arab countries? Well, the answer is pretty obvious... Well this was a step too far! He had to go... suddenly he was called a tyrant, who lived lavishly, wasted the countries resources, etc. and the media would film a small group of people of protesters of Gaddafi without showing the millions who benefitted from his reign. The day he died nearly 90% of the population of Tripoli protested against NATO. Now look at Libya - it is unstable, a failed state, and now a hotbed of terrorism all because this character had to be removed since he was a 'repressive tyrant' who was endangering our 'freedom' which really means he endangered profits... Well you can thank Hillary and Obama for creating that Libyan mess although it's not entirely their fault since they were influenced by people with more power than them... This is going to continue happening throughout out entire lives - each Middle Eastern/Arab country is going to be part of a divide and conquer strategy with puppet governments being installed. Libya a mess, it was attempted in Iraq, in Egypt it was a success though, well see what continues to happen.

I recommend you check out 'A strategy for Israel in the 1980s' and 'Oden Yinon Plan' by Oden Yidon who was a high level advisor to the IDF and foreign ministry. It will help shed some light on what's going on in the middle east and what you can continue to expect. Here's some brief excerpts - globalresearch.ca/greater-israel-the-zionist-plan-for-the-middle-east/5324815
Hmmm... dividing Iraq and Syria into 3 states - Kurdish, Sunni, and Shia? Isn't that's what's being proposed right now in Syria?

Any vote for Trump, not from me, but from other disaffected Americans, is purely and simply a protest vote desparately needed to shake up a failing system. It's good in a way to shake up the Republicans, although sadly, those voting for Trump will NOT be getting all that they bargained for, not by a long shot!!

In Germany, Frauke Petry may well become their next chancellor...,a sort of Trump-like anti-candidate (if only in substance partly, not in style) also as a protest vote against a sitting chancellor who's long since decided to place ideology above necessity:-)

RIP Free Speech...

Can't draw Mohammed, can't have a political rally, can't discuss why the 1/5 rape statistic on college campuses is BS, can't offend anyone anymore...

One thing that I commend Obama for saying is that you should people should have a debate and not just be a baby and shut down a conversation if you don't agree with something that someone said.

Good point, Szalawa. This is why third world countries like India or Indonesia will never be able to reach the standard of living of western countries without getting their population growth under control first.

Freedom of speech need not necessarily mean freedom to offend with impunity, Adrian! Everything has its limits; one person's freedom is another's captivity! Need we all be imprisonsed by certain people's lack of sensitivity?

Yes, and that is why the UN has created Agenda 21 - look into it and 'sustainable development.' This is already being enacted in many cities. Welcome to a future where everyone lives in 30-90 apartments per acre.


Umm actually it does... aside from yelling fire in a crowded building and threatening physical violence you can say anything as stupid, nonsensical, and offensive as you wish. That is the beauty of free speech. In the same way that someone can put a crucifix in a cup of urine and make a Jesus figure out of chocolate, call it 'Sweet Jesus' and call it art which offends me as a Catholic - they are entitled to under free speech, which although yes, it's offensive to me but they have that right under free speech. Those rights are being taken away from us as is the right to bear arms. In the Europe this has already happened in a lot of countries.