2016 Presidential Elections in the US

Nobody said all of them are, dude!!!!

If you're talking about the Pepper Bellies then most of them.
It's part of their culture known as survival.
Do I condone it, No, do I understand it, Yes.
Maybe "politically incorrect" but nothing racist about that as it is a fact Jack.

I "understand" it too...all too well, but I scarcely condone it either. No matter how bad things get or even have gotten for my family and me, there's no way in hell I'd ever willingly vote in a Trump.

Just remember those millions of Germans royally duped by their future Fuehrer and blindly led down the garden path of expedience, simply because some loud-talking preacher promised them a few extra Marks, a slightly bigger spread and the possibility of deserved expansion to lands over which the Teutons were once lord and master!!!

Don't you also fail victim, Johnny! Trump's bad news for anyone who calls themselves an American:-)

But yet you will probably willingly vote for Killary to get things even worse, what a logic!


Yep, just bring Adolf Hitler to the subject to scare people without providing any real facts, it's so new and original.

Consider the source Wulkan.
Being that he is a Jewish liberal school teacher living in New York he most likely will be voting for Socialist Bernie.
Why he continues to badger me when it has been established that I stand for everything he stands against is beyond me.
He doesn't even understand that Reagan was the greatest president of his life time and is still stuck on the outdated New Deal. lol

Did you see the latest petition for the Trump rallies ?

usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2016/03/27/donald-trump-ted-cruz-john-kasich-guns-open-carry-cleveland-convention-republicans/82321374/

Lots of Jews who support Israel in the US (the Zionists) would probably pick the evil Clinton because she sucks up to AIPAC and works with wallstreet.
But you have a point most Jews are Liberal or Socialist regardless.

Yeah, that's why Trump held a speech there just a few days ago... :)

at some point in the next 20 years, america will either be reborn, or perish forever.

real americans will either

a) accept defeat and demographic collapse and surrender to the horde of black and hispanic voters who hate america and vote for america-hating presidents and for taxes on white americans which move wealth away from the middle class and into the hands of the inner city welfare leeches

b) send the nogs back to their muddaland and strip away citizenship from hispanics who became americans through amnesty and other shady practices

guess what....option B is unconstitutional

Why do you think they want to take our guns so badly.

Did you hear what Putin had to say about our election ?
Donald Trump is a brave pro-Putin political maverick who would end U.S. foreign wars and perhaps lift sanctions on Moscow.
Hillary Clinton, however, is a warmonger beholden to the military-industrial complex.
Putin leaves little doubt about who Moscow supports in November's U.S. presidential election: "The Donald."
Analysts say the Kremlin still sees Trump as the best candidate by a mile.
How the low information voters don't get that just amazes me.

He told the Jews flat out he doesn't want there money and that he knows they won't vote for them. There are dozens of politicians and senators with dual US/Israeli citizenship, half the Treasury Dept. is filled with Jews who use to work for Goldman Sachs, and AIPAC is arguably the most powerful lobby in the US. If you want to be a politician, especially a US president, you're gonna have to deal with the Jews and Zionists sooner or later...



As long as the Fed exists, the US will always be involved in wars. That is the best way for the Fed to make money off any government and control their politics. Furthermore, if they don't play ball they can sponsor the opposition. There's countless banks and corporations that play both sides and offer loans and weapons to both sides in a conflict.

Trump at the Jewish Republican Convention:
youtube.com/watch?v=QQtGD1xjKQE
Look, to me I am starting to see that there is little difference between the Republicans and the Democrats. Sure, they argue and when the camera is on they disagree on policies. To me though, it's still the establishment, the status quo, the old guard... It's just two puppets belonging to the same puppet master.

You can bet that Clinton will ruin another country if she becomes President. Libya, Afghanistan and Iraq weren't enough. The thing that I don't understand is that since the entire freakin' human history, when two parties go to war, the victor will take the resources, money, people, land, etc. of the loser. Why is it that the US doesn't do that? Like no other country does that. The US doesn't have corporations taking out the resources in Afghanistan, but the Chinese are certainly taking advantage of the billions in untapped mineral resources. The US made a mess, kicked the Taliban out (which was the legit winner of the Afghan Civil War and was an established government, brutal yes, similar history to modern Egypt) but didn't take any of the resources or make the money back that they spent. Same with Iraq - you kick Saddam out but leave billions of oil, which then ISIS decided they'd take advantage of.

There is no such thing as 'to the victor, goes the spoils' in US foreign policy. More like... 'to the victor, goes your taxes' It's sad that there's thousands of young men and women that give up their lives for this, brainwashed by their government under the guise of ' protecting freedom,' I respect vets, believe me I do - but the things that our policitians have these young poor kids fighting for is just shameful.

I like Putin because has has balls... I don't know why we're always in a state of turmoil with Russia - such Cold War mentality. The people of Ukraine really wanted the country to join the EU and form better partnerships. Yanukovych promised he would several times during Maidan but kept going back. I can understand why this war broke out and I feel it was spurred by both the US and Russia - it's just naturally our propaganda showed the Russian as evil and Russian propoganda showed the US as evil so it's hard to come by truly unbiased info. Ukraine is a pawn and Eastern Ukraine is an important buffer zone between two superpowers - NATO and Russia. Yes, Russia did send in troops - I don't think anyone can dispute that. The Ukrainians though too needlessly destroyed a lot of homes and civilian infrastructure and prevented aid.

I can tell you among my Polish friends - young and old - they're all 100% for Trump

JohnnyReb and like-minded thinkers on PF: Quality of life NEVER goes "out of date"!

Remember, under a Cruz, Trump or (at one time) Scott Walker presidency, the only industry which definitely wouldn't suffer would be law enforcement; more frustrated folks with access to firearms, emotionally unstable victims of run-away capitalism going on rampages:-)

That's going to make America great again???

Trump kissed up big time, which is exactly what was expected from a potential future president. The AIPAC and other powerful lobby groups are the landlords of the White House.

Quote from his speech ( time.com/4267058/donald-trump-aipac-speech-transcript):

"I came here to speak to you about where I stand on the future of American relations with our strategic ally, our unbreakable friendship and our cultural brother, the only democracy in the Middle East, the state of Israel."

Are you referring to the Human Development Index? Where-to-be-born index? OECD Better Life Index?

Human Development Index is usually the most commonly used among economists, politicians and the business world since it measures education, life expectancy, income per capita, living standards, ability to live the life they want, and so on. This is a good way to measure the 'happiness' of citizens too because although like a person in Poland or Lithuania makes less money, Poland actually scores a higher HDI than Kuwait because life is more enjoyable for the average Pole or Lithuanian.

The Jews aren't a very important group as far as votes - they are small and rather divided - some vote republican some vote democrat. The votes themselves aren't really the concern.

Zionists control everything from behind the scenes - the media that can make or break a candidate, the lobby groups like AIPAC, defense companies, the Treasury department, the Fed... so yeah, every candidate is going to have to pay lip service to them, including the Donald. The difference is, he told them yes, I'll be tough on Iran and I'll protect Israel, etc. etc. but at the same time he told them flat out - I know you won't vote for me because I don't want your money.

I hear your liberal voice loud and clear Lyzko, "Real men don't need guns, isn't that right mommy". lol

Where do you come up with such propaganda, Trump would do away with the liberals Political Correctness so L.E. could do their jobs without worrying about getting shot or sued.
Like I said Lyzko, I stand for everything you are against so please stop replying to my posts and I will afford you the same respect.

What I am FOR is basic human decency, which Reaganists have tried their level best to eradicate. What you are for is everything a decent American ist AGAINST, namely, bullying, selfishness, greed and inconsideration towards those deemed incorrectly as weak (whatever that means):-)

Not really. He sucked up to the Israeli lobby the other day, which most people would regard as being very politically correct. It would be a very un-PC move to criticise Israel.

Johnny missed my point, Delph! By having fewer standards under a Trump administration, crime would thereby increase among the terminally disaffected, who'd go on killing rampages out of sheer frustration by being marginalized to death and therefore feeling they have no where else to turn:-)

"who'd go on killing rampages" they would be soon dealt with by the death penalty, The Eu would do well to bring this punishment into law, If only to reduce the burden on the tax payer to keep murderers incarcerated. Bullet to the head = 25c, life in prison $740,000, no brainier really, pardon the pun.

Yep, there'll always be a need for more (and better-paid) cops, right? So guess who'll do better financially in hard times? Those who have to maintain order amid the chaos:-)

"Those who have to maintain order amid the chaos:" , sounds like a good career choice, cop soldier good plan as long as you are fairly well rewarded for the risk involved, pussies need not apply and all that.

Very clever, those Republicans! Squeeze out the traditionally solid, stable middle-class aka middle- to -upper middle income white collar/academic-type jobs, office worker, teacher, college professor, translator etc.. by outsourcing that work to low-waged countries and beef up fairly well-paying law enforcement jobs to take over, thus sending the signal to the former category of worker....CAN'T GET A JOB???? TOUGH!!!!!

Nice bunch:-)

"office worker, teacher, college professor, translator etc.." Unlike wealth generators they are just drones, does it matter where you source them from as long as you get the lowest price without compromising quality, this makes perfect business sense.

Killing rampages for being marginalized...hmm you think no one will fight back? Are you aware that gated/citadel communities are a growing trend in the US as people already feel unsafe with the current rates of crime, it is a trend that is even catching on with poor people, why is that? perhaps there are too many people with indecency to work and rather steal, mug and kill people. If the state can not provide security for its people, can not secure its borders, can not prevent acts of terror then people will look for other means to do so.


Sources? this does not even make any sense, how can you outsource service jobs?

Those middle class jobs that you described including cops are going to be forever in a cycle of barely scraping by because of unbearable taxes, low wages compared to the cost of goods and services, high interest loans, and a ridiculously high capital gains tax which is only going to increase under Hillary. The best way to break out of a cycle of just making enough to pay your bills is by saving and investing your money. That's going to be much more difficult when nearly half your profit goes towards taxes and when your income taxes and/or property taxes go up even further.

On Saturday when I went to get my Easter basket blessed I ran into my real estate agent and we talked for an hour about this. Plenty of couples making $100k combined household income, which puts you in the top quintile, yet they can't save up enough money for a down payment on a decent house. Lots of middle/upper middle class people who use to lease a new car every 3 years now driving 10 year old cars because they can't afford a new one.

Also, when you raise corporate taxes that means less hiring and more corporations go abroad to places with more favorable taxes. In Chicago we already lost a bunch of companies that chose to relocate either 30 miles north to Wisconsin or 30 miles to Indiana because it would save them millions.

Taxes are not the answer...

Hmm.. killing rampages for the marginalized?

Kind of like we have every weekend here in Chicago as soon as the snow melts? 17 shootings just over the weekend.. and it was freakin' Easter! Just wait till summer madness - June to September - hundred dead a month... that's why we're called Chi-Raq after all.. the worst thing is the blacks are proud of it and even make movies about it! Yo Chiraq forks up waddup do d? God I hate these people...

Call me bubbled and sheltered, maybe even someone who's not too fond of living in a 'diverse' neighborhood... but I've worked hard so I don't have to live in an area anymore where I have to worry about bullets flying through my window.

Adrian we only have 38 million people in Poland, low rate of crime and plenty of opportunity, Americans like you would do well in Poland, don't get me wrong it is hard to find work here, but if you have the means to start a business, Poland is the new west, the land of freedom safety and opportunity. No flying bullets here mate.

The Negro's in Chicago and no I am not a racist when I use the N word.
When it is one Black man and one White man things are cool.
When it is five Blacks and one White they become Niggers.
The cops have given up in South Chicago because like Adrian said,
The cops make a traffic stop and they are immediately being video taped and the next thing you know it's going viro on U-tube of police abuse.
The Chicago police risk being shot or sued each and every shift they work.
The cops have given up because they have done all they can to help Blacks and they don't want their help.
They choose to live like animals killing each other. Drugs, guns, sex and bling bling. We B Jammin' Bro.
Read about it here:
msn.com/en-us/news/crime/violence-surges-in-chicago-even-as-policing-debate-rages-on/ar-BBr1Wof?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=U348DHP

You ain't the Lone Ranger.
Even the hard working Blacks have had a belly full of these people..............

@Dolnośląsk, got news for ya, bud! Translators, teachers etc.... AREN'T "drones", but, like intellectuals anywhere, the life blood of a civilized society, period, end of story! Are you suggesting we should become a society of highly paid, yet mentally worthless illiterates??

I know, the middle aged blacks hate the youth. They fought so hard to gain rights in this country and this is what they get. If MLK JR woke up and took a drive down any street after him he'd probably start crying. I wrote an article about a guy that we use to do some remodeling for in Englewood. Long story short, this guy bought some properties and fixed them up to give back to his old neighborhood. He knew they wouldn't qualify for section 8 but wanted at least the family who ends up living there to have a nice place. Well, after repeated break ins and crackheads stealing aluminum sashes from windows worth maybe $80 or so but causing $30,000 in damage which ended up in dude getting kicked out of his owner's insurance and now has to pay crazy high premiums, he simply gave up. He no longer wishes to invest in properties in his old hood because it's simply too stressful for him.


I know, I plan to move to Poland very very soon, especially if Clinton wins. I really am starting to hate what is happening to the US, a country that gave me and my family so much is now becoming a boon on hard working taxpayer and with Hillary more than likely becoming president, it's going to get even worse. One of the most important things in my life is to get to the point where eventually I can live my middle and retirement years mostly off savings and investments - that is not going to happen under Hillary's capital gains tax plan. I have nothing holding me back here and aside from my parents, who are also looking to move to Poland as they are nearing retirement age, my entire family is in Europe. I'd be able to find a job pretty easy or even start up a business. I have connections there, I just need to learn the bureaucracy, tax codes, who the big players are in Wroclaw, etc. One thing I'd love to do is get back into brokerage. I do have a lot of ideas that wouldn't require much capital and I could use my education, experience, and the connections I have in the US as well as Poland to make a good business BUT I'd really have to first see what is needed in Poland. Every market is different - one business that might be great in Chicago would fail in Miami and vice versa. I'd have to go there for a bit longer and my last trip to Poland I was entirely focused on the issues with my property and visiting family.

I don't know why so many people are against guns in the US. Banning guns isn't going to prevent murders from happening. In Japan, you have to have a license and complete a background check, drug test, and all this other stuff just for an airsoft rifle. That doesn't stop the Yakuza from mowing people down with automatics when they need to. Criminals will always get guns. If I wanted to, I could buy an AR-15, shotgun, pistol, whatever with no background check, no ID shown, nothing and I'm not even a gangster or anything so imagine what the people who really want to cause mayhem can do. However, I own my guns legally so I have no need to. This is in Chicago too - the city with arguably the strictest gun laws. Gun laws are NOT going to stop criminals and any one that thinks so must live under a rock. The Donald wants to allow people to be able to carry concealed weapons at rallies - which after what happened here, I don't blame him. One of the reasons why taxis rarely get robbed in Chicago is because most of the drivers have guns. There was this sort of unspoken rule that cops wouldn't hassle cabbies who drive around with a gun in their car. Only the most rookie Chicago cops get sent to places like Englewood and Lawndale because they get shot at from windows and no one even knows where the bullets are coming from. Even the paramedics get shot at when they revive an overdose victim because the dealers feel that makes their block hot and brings the cops - bad for business... I briefly worked in insurance and sometimes had to go to bad areas to write up a homeowners policy. Believe me, I wish that Chicago had a concealed carry law back then as I, along with any other worker (white, black, Hispanic - doesn't matter) that's in a bad neighborhood would feel way safer. It really is madness here that's why I want to leave so bad. I can deal with crime, bad neighborhoods, but when you add I believe the highest property taxes on top of it, ridiculously expensive real estate, terrible streets, bad traffic, $15 Marlboros, $30 for an hour of parking/$70-$90 a day/$300+ a month for residents, rampant corruption, the crazy liberals trust fund hipster, Black Lives Matter terrorists, it all starts to get to be way too much... I actually heard on the radio that between 2000 and 2010 over 200,000 black people left Chicago - the guy didn't cite a source but it really wouldn't surprise me.