2016 Presidential Elections in the US

when I say I'm going to pay something, I pay it.

That's unfortunate you don't use the laws to your advantage - you're wasting your money for no good reason. That' like saying, well the price of this car is $35,000 and that's the sticker - so I won't bother negotiating to save $2,000. However, wise people, do not do that - they attempt to get the best deal. Notice that the stingiest, most penny-pinching people are actually the wealthy ones. Congrats on paying more than you would've had to - you've just made the banks and Wall street types slightly more wealthy- the same group that Hillary and the libs claims to be fighting (which of course judging by her capital gains tax plan, is simply not true).

Profitable businesses go bankrupt?!

Yes, that happens all the time. Ever heard of Chrysler, Washington Mutual, or United Airlines? These were very profitable companies for long periods of time, then for a short period fell on hard times - like during the recession or 9/11 like with United and had to declare bankruptcy in the form of Chapter 11, restructured their debt, and are now once again profitable companies.

Chapter 11 bankruptcy doesn't necessarily mean that the business, or individual, isn't economically viable nor profitable - simply that they have too many liabilities at the moment. Chapter 11 allows a company, or individual, with the help of the lender to reorganize their assets and liabilities for a period of time but are still liable for taxes. While a business is in Chapter 11, they must provide balance sheets, cash flow statements, and prove profitability to the court and to the creditor. If the companies under Chapter 11 were proven not to be profitable and were grossly mismanaged or do not provide statements showing that they are economically viable, the Chapter 11 will been converted to a Chapter 7. If you knew even the most basic things about corporate law you would know that. Bankruptcy is not a one size fits all term - a company can be bankrupt and still operational and economically viable but may need certain changes to become profitable again - which would be Chapter 11/13 as in the case of these 4 businesses. A company that is totally underwater and will have no way of paying back a loan or ever being profitable again and will be liquidated would be a chapter 7.

Trump University never went bankrupt, was never liquidated due to Chapter 7, and never had its assets sold. It ceased operating due to complaints of people paying $35k for 'secret' real estate info - idiots... The main thing that Trump University taught people is that 'you're an idiot for spending thousands for 'insider' real estate info - which is actually free, just takes time to find.' Also, Trump University had an A rating in January 2014 and then went up to an A+ in January 2015 so obviouslty quite a few people said that they liked it and got something out of it...

bbb.org/council/news-events/news-releases/2016/03/statement-by-better-business-bureau-serving-metropolitan-new-york-and-council-of-better-business-bureaus

Even though I like Trump, anyone who attends some bogus real estate seminar, or believes their broker when they 'guarantee' 10% ROI is an idiot and deserves to be ripped off.

Actually, it's more like not saying 'Well, I agreed with the dealer that I'd pay $33,000 instead of the $35,000 but now I've waited for delivery and sold my old car he tells me I have to pay $36,000 so I'll pay that and be fine about it'. If you say you are going to do something, you do it. End of story. Trump on the other hand....

You're wasting money if you would willingly pay $1k more than the sticker price. Also, the 'destination' fee (delivery) is usually listed in the window sticker and included on the invoice of a car. Furthermore, this is one of the many fees, like documentation fee, that you can negotiate - don't know if you knew that or now.

I knew that some individuals were bad with understanding economics and business but Jesus Christ - did I just see you admit that you would pay MORE than the sticker price on a car... not even bothered to negotiate less, but you'd actually pay more... pathetic.. We wonder why our debt is $19 trillion and will be increased further with the Omnibus Act



Trump understands negotiation... as does the majority of the world, you obviously don't. Things change with time - the economy and inflation is not steady and this impacts payment on a loan - whether the debtor is an individual, a company, or even a nation. Countries renegotiate payments and trade all the time - Poland is actually one of two countries that ever received an IMF loan (which they didn't want by the way, but the bankers forced it down their throats) at a fixed rate because they pay in full and on time. Banks are more than happy to renegotiate terms because they would rather take a smaller interest rate than have the individual default completely because of a higher rate. I think Trump's creditors knew a bit more about his business's situation than you, or I do. Nonetheless, I do know the they were all Chapter 11 bankruptcies, either you don't know what that entails or refuse to research it.

At least Trump doesn't flip flop on nearly ever single topic he discusses.. Clinton on the other hand has repeatedly with the Iraq war, immigration, sanctuary cities, gay marriage, the Keystone pipeline, fracking and many many more. I mean it's ridiculous prior to 2015 she attacks Obama's blanket rules on guns, opposes driver's licenses for illegal immigrants, supports Keystone XL, opposes Iran's enrichment, reject payroll taxes then in 2015 and supported charter schools then throughout this race she totally switched her position on all of these - she says supports stricter gun laws and said gun culture is way out of line, supports driver licensce's for illegal immigrants, opposeses Keystone XL, supports the Iran deal, criticised charter schools, and suggested increasing limit on payroll taxes. Even with gay marraige in 2000 she said she was against it then in 2015 she said she was for it. Which is it? I know the answer actually - she is either for or against whatever is popular at the moment and will give her the most votes. She actually doesn't care one way or the other - but she does care what will bring her the more voters. I've written about the immigration and sanctuary cities flip flop in detail a few pages back because there were so many different times she was one 'pro-illegal immigrant rights/privelidges and pro sanctuary cities' then suddenly shes against it, then for it again, then against it and now since she realizes the huge Latin American voter base, of course she's for it. Clinton simply goes with whatever is popular at the time. Her strategy for dealing with getting caught on a flip flop is the same as dealing with scandal - 1. Deny, deny, deny. 2. Suppress information from other parties or have people in Obama administration cover for you 3. Wait till the media and masses move onto some new issue. 4. Repeat steps 1 to 3 if flip flop/scandal comes up again

Here's just a few sources - many of them even lean liberal:
freebeacon.com/politics/sanders-rips-hillary-clinton-flip-flops/
washingtontimes.com/news/2015/oct/12/hillary-clinton-flip-flops-from-2008-positions-in-/?page=all
politico.com/magazine/story/2015/10/democratic-debate-hillary -clinton-flip-flop-213247
businessinsider.com/hillary-clinton-gay-marriage-and-immigration-flip-flops-2015-4

No you didn't. I would never pay more than a price that I'd agreed to pay. I negotiate but once I have agreed to do something, I do it, unlike Trump (and unlike you apparently).


Wrong again. I've run my own business for decades, I know to always negotiate. But I also understand the power of trust: people I do business with know they can trust me to do what I say, unlike Trump (and apparently you).


Off the top of my head: abortion, assault weapons ban, visas, Syrian refugees and the invasion of Iraq. He has flip flopped on all of those. But feel free to again claim that black is white, just like Trump does.

No he doesn't Adrian.
Have you not noticed yet how Harry, delph and jon are experts on everything ? (The three English ex-pats in Poland)
You are being to polite in trying to get it through Harolds head as he will never admit that he is clueless of how chapter 11 works.
He will go off on tangents, he will redirect, he will argue to argue.

I see you finally came to the same conclusion about Harold and pegged him.

Obviously but he will never admit it.

Is it me or are you shaking your head in disbelief too. lol
Adrian 1, Harold 0.
Harold you are genuine piece of work.
Take into consideration Adrian that Harold most likely is sitting on HIS bar stool on his 5th or 6th pint and has no one to argue with so he becomes a key board warrior to have someone to argue with.
You will soon figure out that Harold has mental issues and when he drinks alcohol while taking his meds he becomes argumentative and combative.

I work in sales - of course I negotiate with people on a daily basis. Even if something is written in a contract, it doesn't mean that contract can't be rewritten in the future. I've had to jump through hoops to keep international customers happy and make sure I get the paychecks comings. Yes, me, Trump, and every bank, corporation, and millions of homeowners. Just because you agree to a contract does not mean there aren't external forces that will change things down the line whether it's the economy, new technologies, a downturn in business, a supplier/customer not working out, lawsuits, inflation, whatever.
Debtors, like homeowners or Trump's businesses, as well as the Creditors, like the banks and even the government understand this. This is why you are able to refinance and sign a new contract/agreement to supersede and existing one. The banks much rather have you refinance a mortgage and accept a smaller interest rate than have the person default altogether. This is why there are laws like Chapter 11 and programs like HARP and TARP. Even phone companies will offer promotions if their competitor has recently lowered their rates so that their customers don't switch. Oftentimes, you can even change your plan or get a better rate even if you're in the middle of a contract. You're a fool if you don't take advantage of something like this.

Good for you - you let your pride get in the way of you saving money. I'm sure your business partners and customers would love to hear that. By you not renegotiating with suppliers, services you use at your business, bank loans, etc. that means higher costs for your customers and less profit for you. By the way, I hate to break it to you, but your phone company and bank doesn't give a crap about you or whether you 'keep your word' or go search for a better, cheaper option. They're not going to lose sleep because you left them - I can assure you.


Still far, far less than Clinton. Also, with most of those like the Syrian ban he didn't flip flop in the sense that he totally changed his stance to the opposite - he simply expanded on his plan - like with the Muslim ban he said he would allow for politicians/businessmen to come in. Although yes, with assault weapons he did flip flop because in one of his books he called for a ban of semi-autos. That did upset me as I am a huge supporter of the 2nd amendment and have a few different guns myself from a small jennings j-22 to an auto ak-74 from Poland.


Just because you agreed to something or signed a contract doesn't mean you can't renegotiate a better rate before that term has ended. People and businesses do it everyday with mortgages, suppliers, phone companies, the cable company, vehicle purchases, real estate agent commissions, and so on. That's just part of doing business and keeping costs low.

@Adrian,

The reason some of us are so gung-ho that Hillary should win, is that the converse aka Trump/Cruz would be so nightmarish for the average middle-class American that it gives me goose pimples just to imagine such a nauseating prospect!!

@Johnny, what you still don't get is that it's not about, and never was about Trump bulldozing over a bunch of whiney trust-fund brats and making "men" out of America's youth...AGAIN!! What Trump is doing is turning the clock back to nearly the Coolidge Era of a sprawling US underclass who suffered miserably, with a small ruling upper class keeping the rest of the country in it's place! During the worst period in our modern history, the Great Depression No 1, nice folks like the KKK, Black Legions etc. were terrorizing this country. Under a Trump presidency, we'd see something similar, if not more repulsive, mark my words!!

We are going to see that regardless who wins.
Now....two hears one mouth......listen up because I am done telling you this.
TRUMP HAS NO CHANCE OF WINNING !
You can quit worrying about that.
You will see someone like Scott Walker get appointed nominee.
We definitely do not want Hillary though as not only is she a CRIMINAL but also would carry on where Obozo left off.
Now you get that this time I hope.

It is totally over rated as it is set up now. IMO
A college degree is like shackles on a graduate that has earned a degree.
They will never make enough money to pay their student loan off so in essence would be money ahead to go to work right out of high school maybe taking some night classes at a junior college or being trained by a corporation that they go to work for.
This country is in for a rude awakening Lyzko and I think we both agree on that.
The worlds economy is on very thin ice.

So true, if I could take it back I'd never go to college. I'd instead invest the money into a business. College is honestly a waste of money unless you're going to go all the way and get a master's or doctorate.


Trump will lose. However, he has started a movement - the silent majority (aka ****** off taxpayers
movement).. I just hope it doesn't die


The world economy - not so much - at least not for the developing countries, especially like Africa (the Chinese are realizing the Dutch, Brits, and Israelis shouldn't be the only ones benefitting from African resources), Pakistan (signing enormous contracts with contracts - especially for road construction, rail, etc.), Mongolia (huge mineral economy), Kazakhstan (hugely growing economy - Poland is investing a ton of cash there) and even Afghanistan (even though we spent billions invaded - we got nothing in return... however, we have made the country safer for Chinese investors interested in minerals and emeralds).

Once the dollar is no longer used as the worldwide currency - that's it... collapse of the US economy. There is NOTHING supporting the dollar - no commodity, no gold, no silver, no oil, nothing. The dollar is pretty much worthless as it is - it's value has fallen 95-98% since 1913 - the year the Fed was established. For a long time it was even illegal to hedge against the falling value of the dollar by keeping gold in your house - you were forced to trade in your gold for dollars. The Chinese and Russians are already in the process of creating a basket currency so they don't have to trade goods in dollars anymore - the S. Koreans and Japanese are highly interested in this too. Gaddaffi, a socialist that I have a ton of respect for, paid the ultimate price for trying to establish the Dinar - a currency which African and Arab oil exporters would use to sell their oil - instead of dollars.

It's all b.s. dude it really is. The things that are happening in the US are just ridiculous. I really don't think that the US politicians bother to read half of the trade agreements that we sign - or if they do it's only if some company or special group within the US is going to immediately benefit off of it.

You can believe that things are not going to get better with our next president. Mark my words...
Also, when people kept criticizing Trump for saying that the unemployment rate is 20% - well many news outlets, including liberal ones, found that this is actually a pretty accurate figure. The BLS U6 rate is over 10%... however, this figure doesn't include the bums, the people who stopped looking for work, it doesn't count recent graduates that never got a job because they felt they couldn't get a job, and it doesn't count people who are stay at home mom's, stay at home dad's, those who went back to school or simply retired early because they felt they couldn't get a job. I don't know who compiles these statistics, but to me that's means UNEMPLOYED. t

The fact is, there is actually 93 million people that are out of work according to the BLS... bls.gov/web/empsit/cpseea38.htm

So when Trump says that our unemployment rate is over 20% - he's not totally correct - it's actually much higher...

Some of the anti-Trump websites like this one - factcheck.org/2016/02/trump-wildly-inflates-unemployment/
will say he's grossly inflating - 'Other reasons for not working: Eighteen percent cited school; 19 percent cited illness or disability; and 15 percent cited home responsibilities. About 3.5 percent said they couldn't find work or gave another reason.' Last time I checked, if you 'can't find work' or are 'attending to home responsibility' or even 'due to illness and disability' - I'm sorry I feel for you, but just because you're sick and on disability doesn't mean you shouldn't be considered UNEMPLOYED.

It's simply - are you working - Yes or No? If you answered NO - you are NOT-EMPLOYED (aka unemployed)...

Obviously the liberal talking heads never bothered to see the actual BLS numbers...

It's been quite a while, but I remember the same thing happened when Romney said that 49% don't pay taxes - well if he only inserted the word 'federal income' between the words 'don't pay' and 'taxes' it'd be totally true. Just because you pay sales tax on cigarettes, malt liquor, and hair extension from the $900 TANF money a month you get does not make you a taxpayer, sorry Shaniqua.

Actually, here let's even subtract the people who want a job, discouraged over job prospects, are in school, and all the other categories - let's just look at ONE category - PEOPLE THAT DO NOT WANT A JOB- (AS OF MARCH 2016) 88,468,000 people.... need I say more?

Out of the almost 94 million not in the work force, only 5.4 million reported that they want to work (500k less than last year, although the total of people not in labor force is pretty similar between this year and last year)...

and these politicians dare say that the unemployment rate is only 5%... ridiculous...

The Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) calls them "Not in Labor Force", but I wonder how many of them are actually retired. I can't imagine that so many people simply gave up looking for work or are simply too lazy. The results of the survey might be misleading because they've asked the wrong questions.

jobenomicsblog.com/tag/bureau-of-labor-statistics/

Here's what I found from your source:

'Today, 34% of all Americans financially support the rest of the country. Out of a total population of 323 million Americans, 111 million private sector workers support 32 million government workers and government contractors, 94 million able-bodied people who can work but chose not to work, 70 million who cannot work (caregivers, children, retired and institutionalized citizens), and 16 million unemployed and underemployed.'

That 94 million figure is able bodied people who cannot work - it does NOT include retired people.

picture from your source:

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You are totally correct Adrian.
America's problem is that we have more people voting for a living then working for a living.
It's unsustainable but try to convince the liberals of that.

You are totally correct again yet when the US economy goes down it will effect the worlds economy.
That is what I was referring to Lyzko when I said,
I should have said the U.S. economy but thanks to Adrian he corrected me.
And I personally believe this is why the big banks in America are buying up tons of gold and silver.
Any day now.

Also from your source:

Sooner or later, the American people will figure out that it is theoretically possible for the United States to have a zero rate of unemployment while simultaneously having zero people employed in the labor force. The reason for this disquieting statement involves how government measures unemployment. To be classified as unemployed, one must be looking for work. Able-bodied Americans who quit looking and voluntarily depart the workforce are accounted in the Not-in-Labor-Force category-a category that is generally never mentioned in politics or the media.

See Trump should've been more careful with his words - if he said something like 'nearly 40% of Americans are able bodied but do not want to work' instead of then he would've been right... I'd consider this group as unemployed, but the media does not... just semantics if you ask me..

Thanks, I overlooked that. Approximately 25% of the total population choose not to work? Still can't believe it. Why would the feds even talk about 5% unemployment rate when it's so easy to debunk that claim? There must be more to it. Okay, think I found it:

pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/11/14/more-and-more-americans-are-outside-the-labor-force-entirely-who-are-they/

"People 55 and over do, as you might expect, account for more than half of the 85.9 million adults (as of October) who say they don't want a job"

"Women are more likely than men to say they don't want a job"

"...workers to become discouraged and permanently drop out of the labor force," such as by taking early retirement or signing up for Social Security disability benefits."

Scratching head...

See but they think that socialism is the answer... which honestly, yes perhaps it could work... if Americans weren't so damn lazy and the government had some viable state controlled industries that were actually making a profit (as opposed to just giving hundreds of millions to failing energy companies which end up getting purchased for pennies on the dollar by the Chinese).

If we gave every 'able bodied' non-working person in the US shovel and a wheel barrel, we could secure our border with Mexico within a few days.

Look at Libya - the place was a socialist utopia that was the envy of European nations! People were living like princes and princesses! Gaddafi promised to house every Libyan before he housed his own parents - and he nearly succeeded but his parents died before he could, and also he was murdered. The Libyans didn't have to pay mortgages, people received dividends from monthly oil sales from the government, health care was free, people got $50k USD when they married (a LOT of money now - let alone in the 80s, 90s, and 2000s), gas was like 50 cents a gallon, electricity was free, and education was free. I mean Libya was AWESOME - a socialist country I would be proud to live in. A lot of Poles even went there to work during Communist times and afterwards. The difference is though again, unemployment was actually low - and not just the bogus 4%-5% number that politicians cite. I think we see from the sources in the posts above that it's total bs - also thanks for that post TheOther - it's a great source that just shows that the 94 million number is true - it is able bodied people who do not want to work - not children, retirees, etc.

Well, the US and NATO couldn't let Gaddafi and Libya be... they had to bomb the country just about every other decade, stir up revolt, arm rebel groups, and eventually got Gaddafi killed. Why? He wasn't paying into the international banking system and once he proposed the Dinar it was simply too much - he had to go once and for all.

Yeah, sure; I really want to die in another Sho'ah. לא תודה!

And yes, the anti-Israel/pro-palestine lobby are usually so naive that they don't understand this is a real possibility if Israel is allowed to fall again.

You're a sort of Trump-Sanders hybrid (Scary!).

Nah, he's a nice guy.

You can learn a few things from him, very studious I presume

Only thing Trump and Sanders have in common to my knowledge is a universal healthcare plan of some sort

JohnnyReb, I actually do agree with your last post, at least regarding Trump's chances of winning:-) In the end, it's Cruz I feel we should worry about, but maybe that's only me.

Higher education remains that which separates us two-legged from our four-legged friends:-) If we no longer can use the Standard English Language as she is meant to be used, that is, if we become a society of illiterates (even if "functioning"), what then separates us from the dog, the cat, the hippo or the lion? The dog is more loyal, the cat far more clever, the hippo more fecund and the lion much stronger...yet in the beginning was the Word, and if we trade in our brains, our culture and our literacy in exchange for a house in the burbs, and all we can do is, fornicate, masticate, sleep and relieve ourselves, what does that make us??

Conversartion's all but dead since the advent of digital technology, should we plunge the dagger in even further and put us out of YOUR misery??!

Trump, by the way, is proud of not reading books (even though he claims to have written, at least ghost-written, one). Is this presidential timber or merely rotten wood?

So why even bother writing a contract? Sorry but it's very simple: if you say you are going to do something, you do it. If you don't do what you say you will do, you are untrustworthy and should not be trusted. Do you really want somebody as untrustworthy as Trump to stand as president? Personally I do, but only because it'll be eye-wateringly amusing.

I can recognize a good government when I see it. I like some of the ideas that Bernie has - I don't agree with all of them but I certainly think he's a better choice than Hillary. I don't agree with everything that Trump says either. However, as someone who has a degree in international business, subscribes to Forbes, Money, and reads many books, especially those on business, politics, foreign relations, and Zionism, I am highly interested in who these candidates are, what they say, what they voted for or against in the past, and what experience they have in business. Quite frankly, the US is a business and ought to be run efficiently like one. In this case, socialist Libya under Gaddafi is one such example. I highly recommend reading his Green Book - it's only about 30 some pages but it's an excellent source on the theory on how a modern socialist government ought to be run. Gaddafi really cared about his citizens - that's evident in both his book and his actions as a leader. Although I consider myself a conservative, I don't identify and agree 100% of the time with Republicans and I also don't disagree 100% of the time with Democrats. I feel nearly all schools of thought have something good to offer. Even with National Socialism - one of their main tenets is that every nationality deserves it's own land where they can establish their nation with the laws and customs of their choosing. I feel that the Republicans understand macro and microeconomic principles much better than the Dems, but at the same time I feel that the Dems are much more in touch with social issues. Although, the Dems have lately been using social issues as a divisive force to incite race and class warfare as well as instill a sense of 'white guilt.' The questions of abortion, marijuana legalization, and gay marriage are merely distractions from much larger, much more important issues. I could understand if gays were being burned at the stake in the US or there was no area at all in the US where a woman can get abortion or an AIDS patient receive medical marijuana - but that's not the case. The media will spend tons of time discussing what a candidate said about abortion but will spend no time discussing things that actually matter - like what a candidate said about repairing our roads and bridges. The Dems are great at playing on people's emotions which is why they've had such success. Instead of discussing important although boring topics like curtailing spending, simplifying the tax code, etc. it's much easier to get people excited about things like gun control and gay marriage. Over 40% of Americans do not pay income tax - so when a politician discusses lowering taxes, it's not going to matter to the hundred million that are not paying income tax and living off the government. Conversely, when a candidate discusses increasing taxes and making the wealthy pay their 'fair share,' the masses begin to hoot and holler - however, these individuals fail to realize and do not bother to research the fact that the wealthy already do pay their fair share and are in fact providing the majority of tax money for the government. Furthermore, when candidates say, we're going to raise corporate taxes - the unemployed (I'm including the 16 million or so unemployed as well as the 90+ million that are not considered unemployed by the government because they have simply stopped looking for work, do not want a job, and are hence considered to be in a different category other than unemployed) welfare types rejoice, but again they fail to realize that by taxing corporations they will leave the United States, they will hire less people, their products and services become more expensive, and after a certain point (Laffer Curve) of raising taxes, there will actually be a net decrease of taxes collected because companies will simply be fed up and leave. This has been happening all throughout Obama's term - almost every we hear of some huge corporation like Amazon moving their headquarters abroad due to the ridiculous taxes in the US. Of course, those jobs move with it.

Gaddafi was portrayed by the Western media as an evil tyrant - a dictator that we must remove because he is a threat to 'freedom.' Really, he was a threat to the US dollar and the worldwide oil industry - but that's a different topic I could probably write a book on. Quite frankly, I'd gladly give up my 'freedom to criticize the government' in exchange for free housing, free healthcare, free education, $50k when I get married, subsidized utilities, 50 cent a gallon gasoline, monthly dividend check's from the government's oil sales, and so forth. I am not saying that Gaddafi's government did not imprison and beat up the people that criticized the government. I can understand why they did though - these individuals are biting the hand that feeds them. If a son criticized his father, even after the father provides food, clothing, shelter, a car once he turned 16, a college education, and all this other things, I'm sure the father would probably slap him upside the head and tell him he's an ungrateful p.o.s. One thing that the Western media did NOT portray was the millions of people, especially in Tripoli, that were protesting NATO's involvement and Gaddafi's death. Nearly the entire population of the city came out to demonstrate against NATO. Within a period of 10 years, Libya went from a wealthy nation - the envy of other African and Arab countries - who's citizens had livelihoods as good, arguably better than the citizens of industrialized European nations to a country that is leaderless, lawless, full of terrorism, and an economy that is in the toilet courtesy of the US, NATO, and of course Hillary.


Most contracts have a clause that states a future contract would supersede the previous one. Furthermore, there are addendums and riders that are attached at the end of a contract if a party is not favorable with certain terms inside the contract.


True. However, I don't think the phone company or your car dealer cares if you are 'trustworthy' and 'do what you said.' They only care about making you part with as much money as possible so they can get a commission check. Believe me on this, I work in sales. I guarantee that if you call your bank right now and tell them, I am trustworthy - 'I have done what I said I will and paid my mortgage according to the original terms' they'll tell you good for you, we appreciate you as a customer, and then the representative will forget your name and the conversation by lunch time. However, if you call your bank and tell them that your business is going through hard times and that you wish to refinance - meaning change the original terms of the contract - they will be happy to listen and negotiate with you. A company would much rather sell a good or service for a slightly lower price and amend an agreement rather than lose the customer altogether.


The reason why I want Trump as president is that he is the least likely to be influenced by lobbyists and special interest groups. A candidate that is supported by special interests is going to have loyalties with those individuals - not the citizens. Please don't tell me that you believe Hillary is more trustworthy than Trump. The woman has been involved in innumerable scandals from the time she began her political career to even this very day - she's still facing issues with her whole email server scandal. Each year it's something new - from making 10,000% ROI on cattle futures, to lying about how much galas and fundraisers cost so she could pocket the difference, to looting the white house and renting out the Lincoln bedroom to celebrities, to having her husband pardon CONVICTED MURDERS & TERRORISTS to help her win support in the NY Puerto Rican community, to the mess she created in Libya and allowing Americans to die in Benghazi, to using the IRS to intimidate Republicans, to the 'Travelgate' scandal, and many many more.

Israel will NEVER fall - that isn't going to happen. If anything, Israel will gradually gain more territory and other Middle East nations will be divided. Even right now there's discussion of dividing Iraq into 3 zones - a Shia, Sunni, Kurdish zones - 100% consistent with the Oded Yinon plan from the 1980's which called for the exact same thing we've seen - war against Hussein, weakening of Iraq, division into 3 territories . The Zionists have placed their own people inside the governments, banks, and media of nearly every country from the US to the UK to even Latin America and Poland.

Check out the Balfour Declaration one day. Very interesting how the plans for the establishment of Israel came about. Basically, England was being badly beaten by the Germans during WW1 and they were ready to surrender. However, the Zionists, namely Lord Baron Rothschild, convinced the British to continue fighting. He stated that he would convince his people in the United States to join the war on the side of the British against the Germans if after the war the British would help expel the Palestinians and establish a Jewish nation - Israel. Now England had as much right to promise Palestine, a sovereign country, to the Jews as Russia promise half of France to Poland. The English thought this was crazy as the U.S. was neutral and the politicians vowed to not be involved in the war which was in part due to the large German population. Nonetheless, Rothschild kept his promise - he got the Zionists in the US to convince the government to join the war - suddenly anti-German propaganda appears everywhere, there's small attacks and skirmishes against the US and it's boats, mysterious telegraphs suddenly appear, etc. So Germany loses the war, the Balfour Declaration promise is kept but unfortunately WW2 begins shortly after and the Palestinians weren't evicted from their lands till 1947/1948 and the British built oil pipelines going from Iraq, into Jordan, and ultimately ending in Israel. One of the things that made this a bit confusing is that the Brits made a similar agreement with the Saudis - they promised the Saudis the territory of Palestine as well as other lands in exchange for their help against the Ottoman Empire. Also, the lands around Israel after the collapse of the Ottoman Empire were purposely made into much smaller countries (Sykes-Picot) so that Israel would emerge as the dominant military power - with the help of the US and UK.

Point is, Israel will not fall - if anything Israel will expand. This is known as the Oded Yinon plan (aka Zionist Plan for the Middle East globalresearch.ca/greater-israel-the-zionist-plan-for-the-middle-east/5324815). One of the largest threats to Israel was Iraq under Saddam Hussein. They repeatedly invaded Iraqi airspace and bombed the country. In one such operation, Operation Opera, the Israelis bombed a nuclear reactor that was under construction. This facility was not for military and it was registered and inspected by the IAEA. Furthermore, a French company was building this facility so most of the people that died in the Israeli airstrike were actually French citizens. Of course the media didn't report on this... neither did they report on the USS Libery - a US ship that was deliberately attacked and US servicemen viciously killed... to this day the US Navy still has not investigated.

Israel is purposely keeping other countries around it small and weak - Lebanon, Jordan, etc. One of the main obstacles was Iraq and that was taken care of due to all the supposed 'WMD evidence' that was never found. Now it's Iran. The Israel has been successfully implementing the Oden Yinon plan - it's happening, slowly but surely.. I recommend you check it out and you will see how much this document parallels with what has happened, what is happening, and what will happen in the Middle East.

I would be happy with that. Whether people like the place or they don't, it needs to be there, where it is and the hostility against them means they cannot drop their guard.


The circumstances of Arthur Balfour's declaration are a bit more complicated than that but at least the declaration was made.


A bit, even a lot more complicated than that, not least due to resource distribution and allegances in the region.

If Cruz were to win it would be the same old same old which this country has had a belly full of.
The only good thing about him is that he supports the Constitution as it was written.

Change the (in exchange for a house in the burbs) to living beyond our means, Progressive Thinking and Political Correctness Lyzko and I would have to say we are already there.
The kids graduating from high school today have been dumbed down so far that they can not function without their cell phones.
A high percentage of them can not read or write proficiently, if at all, can't do basic arithmetic in their heads or begin to know how to figure interest or balance a checkbook.
Yet they demand to be paid $15 an hour to put a pickle on a hamburger because they are incapable of doing anything else in life.

We already have Lyzko, we already have.
Did you know that Detroit Michigan does not even have a 50% graduation rate from their high schools.
They can show you how a crack pipe and the latest cell phone works though.
They have no idea who the vise president is or where Europe is located on a map.
They can not read, spell or do basic arithmetic.
That is what I call illiterate.
We are already there my friend.
Back to your self amusing ha ha question for me to wriggle out of.
"Do I think a college degree is a waste of time."
You do the math yourself Lyzko, if you run up a $250k debt through student loans to pay for your college how many years would it take to pay that back IF you could find a job because most jobs available would consider you over qualified to pay you what you think you are worth as a starting wage.
Instead of going to college, taking a lower paying job and moving up the ladder with the help of your employer paying for some night class (or free military training and loans) having an income and no debt creating a track record of a proficient employee that is worth their weight in gold to an employer.
But no, the kids today have been so spoiled that they want it new and they want it now.
They want to start out right at the top of the pay scale and buddy that ain't the way it works.
So to answer your question NO, in MOST cases a higher education is not worth the money you have to invest unless you are going to specialize in a job and we both know is a very low percentage of college students ever achieving.
And what happens when you drop out after three years of running up a huge debt in loans for college and decide to be a used car salesman to bamboozle some sucker into paying $3000 more for a car than the sucker agreed on paying for it.
Again, NO, a higher education for most is not a good investment in this day and age.
I agree with Governor Perry.
I assume you disagree because of your job security.

Thank goodness Trump says he's neutral on this issue. The fact is the Jewry does not like Trump and will do whatever it takes to take him out of the race. He is not going to fall for blindly giving $30 billion a year to Israel like we are now and selling F16 / F15 for the price of scrap as we did around 9/11 when 15% of our jets were grounded due to lack of parts.


I want the Jews to have their homeland - I'm not opposed to that. However, the way Israel was established was an utter atrocity. To this day millions of Palestinians are displaced because of Israel. The children and grandchildren of the Palestinians who lived in the 1940's are forced to live in camps inside Lebanon, Syria, and Jordan. Meanwhile, Israel has established a system of apartheid against the Palestinians, which arguably even worse than what the blacks in South Africa faced. Former President Jimmy Carter wrote a great book on this topic called 'Palestine: Peace not Apartheid'


Yes, but describing the entire document and the history surrounding it as well as the effects would be a rather long essay. Plus, my description is the general gist of it: a wealthy Zionist named Rothschild convinced Churchill and the Prime Minister to basically conquer Palestine for them. Keep in mind that two of Wilson's cabinet members were Zionists so they influenced Wilson to go along with this plan. That's what happened. Also, the Brits promised the same things to different parties. In the McMahon Hussein Correspondence, parts of northern Israel which were divided at the time into wilayats or provinces were supposed to go to the Arabs rules under the Sharif of Mecca. (Furthermore, some of the aspects of the Sykes-Picot agreement contrasted with the McMahon-Hussein document.) Nonetheless, not even TWO MONTHS passed into WW1 and already Zionist cabinet member Herbert Samuel issued a memo called 'The Future of Palestine' where they were already discussing kicking out the Palestinians and establishing a Jewish state - well before the Balfour Declaration.

Here is a brief excerpt from the Balfour Declaration:

His Majesty's Government accepts the principle that Palestine should be reconstituted as the national home of the Jewish people and will use their best endeavors to secure the achievement of this object and will be ready to consider any suggestions on the subject which the Zionist Organisation may desire to lay before them

The Prime Minister's comment on the declaration:

The Zionist leaders gave us a definite promise that, if the Allies committed themselves to giving facilities for the establishment of a national home for the Jews in Palestine, they would do their best to rally Jewish sentiment and support throughout the world to the Allied cause. They kept their word

Also:

the launching of it in 1917 was due, as I have said, to propagandist reasons

Palestine was partitioned by the great world powers in the same way that Poland was. Yet we honor the heros that rose against the Russians, Austrians, and Prussians but we call the Palestinians that do the same as terrorists. How would you like it if instead of Palestine it said Poland in the Balfour Declaration? How would you like it if all the great Cathedrals and churches in Poland were taken over by Jews and only men 50 and older could go and pray at the cathedral like in the Al-Aqsa mosque? How would you like it if you could only drive down certain streets in Warsaw? Would you be happy if your house got bulldozed to provide room for new settlers? How would you like it if Jews paraded around the painting of Czestochowa knowing that it is a sacred painting to Polish Catholics? Well, that's what happened with Palestine.

The point is, the British dissolved an independent nation which they had no right to do and gave it to a group of people while kicking the locals out by force leading to over 100 years of bloodshed, war, and conflict. Thanks Zionists! Millions dead thanks to you and your sneaky, conniving, underhanded ways. The words in the declaration were chosen very carefully - it says 'national home' instead of state but both in private meetings between Lord Rothschild and Churchill, it was understood that they really meant a Jewish state - their own country stolen from a nation that already existed there. The word 'national home' was used due to the opposition of this declaration at the time and to make it seem more benign than it really was - another sneaky sneaky tactic of the Zionists.

Ever since the Balfour declaration there has been nothing but war and conflict in that area as a result of Zionist occupation and aggression. If they at least agreed to stay within their borders that'd be fine - but that's not good enough for the Zionists. The IDF is constantly bulldozing Palestinian homes, establishing companies in the West Bank, and perpetuating a system of utter apartheid against Palestinians. Even the UN had criticized Israel many times regarding their illegal settlements. Israel has had more UN Security Council resolutions issues against it than any other nation.

Also, Prime Minister Lloyd George said the following statements:

'such a declaration would have a potent influence upon world Jewry outside Russia, and secure for the Entente the aid of Jewish financial interests.... the Allies had almost exhausted the gold and marketable securities available for American purchases. Such were the chief considerations which, in 1917, impelled the British Government towards making a contract with Jewry.' The Zionists didn't even want to negotiate during the Peel commission because they felt the land they were being offered was 'too small.' Even to this day they aren't satisfied as proven by the Oded Yinon plan and the constant bulldozing of Palestinian homes and building of settlements in the West bank.

So yes, the UK succumbed to Zionist money, influence, and propaganda and promised them land that was not theirs to give in exchange for support during the war from the US...

I certainly do and I have a degree from a D1 Jesuit University that's regarded as great school for business. If I could do it all over again, I wouldn't have gone to college and saved the money to open up a business instead. If you're going to go to college you might as well go all the way and do a master's or doctorate. There's no point in only finishing a bachelor's.

Colleges have honestly turned into indoctrination centers. The worst offenders are the ones with the 'safe spaces' which essentially kill any sort of meaningful debate.

I got a good job right out of college. I was making well over $70k a year in my first job right out of school. However, the reason why I got this job is because I already had tons of work experienced as I had my first job when I was 15 - stacking tiles in a warehouse. All my friends would call me 'lucky' which annoyed the crap out of me. It wasn't lucky - it was me being qualified. My other friends ended up working at like Best Buy or some other place for $12-$14 an hour because their parents coddled them throughout high school and college and many of them didn't even know what 'punching in' actually entails till they were in their early 20's... pathetic...

If you look at that BLS site I posted earlier, you'll see that tens of millions of people aged 16-24 simply do not want a job. Not that they can't get a job, they're sick, they're taking care of kids - which are all other sections on that report - but simply that they do not want to work. I don't blame them really. If the government is going to give you an apartment, pay for your food, give you free healthcare, and some cash on top of it - there's no point to working if you can only get a job that pays $12-$14 an hour.

That's the issue with the US - we have too many lazy people that don't want to work. Donald Trump would change that very quickly as he is an individual who is a workaholic. He doesn't tolerate laziness - yet in the US we reward it. It's like a secret agreement - we'll provide for you for generations as long as you and your generation vote Democrat.

Be careful Adrian !
You are hitting very close to home here.
Educating people with truth and reality could get your computer confiscated as you are not being "Politically Correct." LOL

250K is a little too high, but you'll have ask yourself why tuition costs have exploded recently (together with rent, insurance premiums, and others).


Don't forget inflation. $15/h is nothing these days -- just go grocery shopping.