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Many did, but a big portion accepted offer.

An excerpt from an article published at the time:

GM informed 118,000 of its white-collar retirees of upcoming changes to its pension program on June 1. At the crux of the change is the decision by No. 1 U.S. automaker to get out of the pension business by no longer administering the program that puts a check in a retiree's bank account each month.

Of those 118,000, about 42,000 who retired between 1997 and 2011 will be offered the choice of a lump sum buyout or of continuing their pension as an annuity through the Prudential Insurance Company of America, a unit of Prudential Financial Inc. An annuity is a fixed sum of money paid to someone each year.

Those paragraphs set up the premise. Here's a reaction from a Polish American former employee of GM:

For Richard Fusinski, the buyout is not so much an offer as an insult.

"There was a time I was going to leave General Motors, but they told me what a big mistake that would be because of the great retirement that I'd have," said Fusinski, who was a senior engineering technician at the company's Warren, Michigan, technical center when he retired in 2003 after 29 years. "Now they're trying to screw that up."

Fusinski has done the math. He would need what he sees as an unattainable 7-8 percent return on his six-figure, lump-sum offer to earn him the same monthly amount he receives now from his pension. He also chafes at the assumption that he will not live past 75.

So... no one is happy. That's when you know it was a good decision :)

To me, it's ridiculous that a company that struggles to make cars profitably, was administering $129 billion in pension obligations circa 2012. It's the main reason GM was toxic to most investors. It was a pension fund masquerading as an automobile manufacturer.

You don't even know what "democracy" is.


If you mean the ICC, that court does not exist. Just ask the US and Russia - the two countries that gave the Hague the middle finger, followed by FU.

The US added later: don't even think about it, a-holes, or we will hurt you. I am so proud to be an American.

Good line. Like: state indoctrination camps - pension funds pretending to be schools.

No, they don't because you have no contract and you can't sue if they renege, Mr. Civics.
Congress can terminate the SS system by the end of tomorrow and there is nothing we could do except riot.

Why does a Brit living in Poland care about our SS system? Its like me caring about the Queen.... I suppose, its just something they can use troll bc they dont have anything else better to do other than sitting around transfixed on American issues.. How pathetic! Get a life!

Guess how many times per day we think about Europe?

@jon357
"In which case this may delight or appall you"
An appalling post!
You should be ashamed of yourself!

What a pathetic idiot...No, my wealth is not yours, moron.

My opinion only,but I think Phil Lynott blew Rory Gallagher out of you the water!
They were not even playing in the same league.....Lynott was top class Premiership Gallagher was mid table Championship.....no contest....

Spot on. Who had more hits? Thin Lizzy of course. How about Gary Moore vs Gallagher?

Wait what ? You mean we can't share your sprats, your Turkmenistan manufactured VCR and your half bag of Venezuelan sugar ?

Velund, that was better than brilliant. A Russian delivering a perfect one-paragraph lesson to a NATO citizen.
I especially like that highly motivated afghan goatfcukers who sent the world's most advanced army packing...,[/quote]

They are free to go to Ukraine and fight but they won't - with Article 5 bs as an excuse.
Hey, Poles, invoking A5 is optional...

It's only pop music.

It all sounds the same. And what's with the long hair.

@Velund
You mean those same Afghan goat fvckers that stuck it up Russia's a$$ before? Those same goat fvckers? More like Orc fvckers isn't it? Thats where the Orc officers came up with their tradition of sexually assaulting their own recruits.

If a country is mostly populated by tribes and are not using regular currency for survival but, animals and plants directly due to poor living conditions. Then their financial losses will be minimal during an invasion, the larger the empire invading it. The larger amounts of money needs to be invested into the country (infrastructure, energy, food etc) just by an empires presence in such an area is a huge drain on it's economy.

A local resistance can fight it out indefinitely as long as people are not dependant on the empires currency for survival.

One of the reasons why Afganistan should never be tried to be conquered militarily, but indirectly by trade, religion or diplomacy.

One doesn't buy a Lamborghini to travel 20 meters daily

Why conquer it at all?


It's heading that way and they will have to slowly come to terms with that. It will be difficult for them, however the seeds should be sown.

@jon357
Depending on government, mentality of elite, leader and culture, religious goals and politics. Certain states push for expansion in different ways and for different reasons throughout history.

Example of Scandinavian tribes, was overpopulation and lack of space for agriculture, which drove to raids and colonising (most knowingly in the British isles)

Great Britain in competition with France, Spain and Portugal was driven with aim of easier and faster routes to China without being on the whims and wishes of Mameluke or Ottomons Empire (and France for that matter)

While Empires like Roman Empire, Byzantine Empire, Russian Empire and Nazi German Empire focused on expansion as plundering conquered lands was the main means to appease their own population and the source of their native populations wealth (leeching on other countries/people). Such empires come quickly to a halt when expansion gets halted due to the cogwheel stop functioning (the reward system stops working, which leads to a negative trend in all walks of life in the empire)

One can easily see it when comparing Roman expansion falling short, when internal turmoil and civil wars begin about position of emperor (which the Roman Republic was able to solve in a seemingly peaceful manner while also expanding to remove possible threats from invasions)

Problem was the differences between the Plebs and Plebeians who began resenting each other to such degree that a dictator was able to rise and use the situation for himself, by siding with the people yet not being too tyrannical towards the landed elites overtime.

Lack of education is one of the main reasons why people of the type of malcontents (several of them on PF btw) were able to spread hatred, bile, unhappiness, critical way of thinking with negative and often evil and only self serving goals (perhaps also as a form of revenge)

To pollute the general public and population at large as a form of payback or change or leadership out of sheer ignorance or malice.

Often coming from the thought that if the individuals at the steering wheel would be exchanged by the person himself thing would get better (by not understanding general mechanics, it's a faulty conclusion. More often lay performed by lack of brain cells and knowledge)

That's my viewpoint of it at least

what else do russians have? they have no current soft power... they have no exportable culture.... all they have is brute force.

russia has nothing positive to offer the world (anything worthwhile was produced decades ago and the place is now a dry well).


When the taliban took over everybody was repeating how much the Afghan people (over 90%) supported the general taliban agenda.... okay. Fine. We stay out and Afghans stay in.

No reason to accept 'refugees' from a country where the government has such a broad base of support.
Afghans (collectively) don't really enhance any place where they live (if they did then maybe Afghanistan would be a nicer place).

@Kashub1410

You make some excellent points.


Largely, it was a result of five things. Marginal land (up on the wet hills) meaning a need for food imports, primogeniture meaning the eldest son inherits everything and the rest must do something else, being an island and therefore having a good navy, the 17th/18th century economic boom brought by wool exports combined with the industrial revolution, and of course the tyrant Napoleon's 'continental system' odf attempted genocide causing Britain (by then the UK) needing to find alternative food sources and trading partners.


This is spot on.


On average an empire lasts 300 years, more or less.

Hes one of those poofs thats wants to have his own drag show. This is why he is so quick to dismiss the facts. Hes having the best time of his life right now. A dream fulfilled!


Because you cant or are too afraid of what your so called peers would think. Echo chamber comes to mind. Have you ever studied biology at school?


Thankfully, many parents in the USA are waking up and putting a stop to it. After Bidumb is booted out of office in 2024 all this crap will end forever.


They are worried about being blamed for the pedo drag shows and indoctrination of our children.

Its just a matter of time before the parents start to fight back since our leftist government wont stop it. In fact, they condone it!

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No. It's disgust. You disgust me.


Actually those were two female tourists. They were hiking in the mountains in Morocco and were killed by terrorists at night when they were sleeping in their tents. The murderers filmed everything. This video apparently reached the victims' families.

Ptak's behaviour shocked me doubly, because I remembered that he had a daughter (I didn't know about her death at that time) and I thought that she could be those young women's age.

Now, knowing that his daughter is dead... It's even more shocking and disgusting. How a father who lost his daughter could behave like that? Not an ounce of empathy and human decency.


He didn't just attack me at that point. He did that more than once later on writing some crazy stuff like that I "dragged his daughter through mud" or something like that and other insane lies. What a f*cked up, lying, manipulative psycho.

Who cares?

Don't be a drama queen. It was nice and (relatively) peaceful until you started shrieking.

@jon357, sorry, but I'm not sorry that I disturbed for a short moment the peace of a pedo-lover :)


You seem to care enough to respond.

To your attempt to bait. I'll just block you instead.


Learn to spell.

Do not underestimate people with that condition. They are not all the same.

Hey, stupid, the Soviets didn't invade Afghanistan. They went there to help the government. Legally.

It was the US who armed the Taliban. Just as it was the US who assisted Saddam in his war with Iran - that mean guy with "WMD" he never had and lied that he did.

Don't you just love those CIA guys...

Now try Syria and who is there as a criminal trespasser and who is there by invitation. You are slow so I will give you till Friday to figure it out

In America, she would have her breasts removed if she liked playing with guns and trucks.

I'm not being a "drama queen" and you won't shut me up by claiming that I'm being "hysterical" or whatever. "Deal with it", princess :)))


I'm not "baiting". This is my opinion about you based on your recent confessions and your behaviour on the forum.


By all means, go ahead :)))


Pfahahaha! Learn some human decency first, creep. 🤮


The word "*****" is censored on this forum, so I wrote "pedo" :)

And that post, folks, speaks for itself...

youtu.be/hnzHtm1jhL4

@jon357, you know that this song could be easily sent to transsexual people? You're attacking me in the same way they're being attacked - that's so lame of you.

Btw, I thought you were supposed to block me?? :)))


Are you going to answer this, jon357?

Keep raving...