Random Chat 4

What could be clearer than "ability to make their own decisions without outside interference." when talking about Ireland?

You are behaving like a moody teenager trying and failing to make a point.

And the bs continues...

Normal people would at least offer an example...We wanted X and Y wouldn't let it happen.

Too much effort?

Prove it, idiot. Facts are provable things.

Or learn from Bobko. See above.

No.... get mad and seethe, ho.

you know the treaty that says migration is the competence of the nation states (and not European institutions?)

We is the people of Ireland. Self-governance is a simple term even for a simpleton such as you are.


To whom are you actually referring?? Name of organization and dates please.


Indeed it does Novi. Seek help.

@ amiga500, are you asking me a question or making a statement?

Aha!


I like this new Maf. Ebonics suit you well.

You owe me answers about how Germans "understand" panzers burning in the Ukrainian steppe. What is wrong with face, Mr. Prussian? :)

When posting on the main forums, please stick to the topic, this is a language thread.

BS. You just replace one corrupt swamp with another corrupt swamp. The downside: After the change you lose a reason to complain.

BTW, does that noble idea apply to CDL?

One more thing, Ms. Civics...The US is self-governing, right? Have you been to SF, LA, Portland, Baltimore, or New Orleans lately?
Why are they fleeing? I guess that "self-governing" isn't working very well, is it?

How about that unpayable 31 trillion debt going on 50? Is that part of self-governing or was it imposed from Mars?

And that NATO thing.... If you are self-governing, WTF do you need the US for?

Are the Brits with 2000 mosques self-governing? Did anybody ask them if they want 2000 mosques or were they told to STFU or it's "hate speech" and jail?

This thread isn't about politics, it's about using completely different languages. It is not without reason that the Germans are called "Niemcy", which in old Polish means mute people

Mute, only because Poland's neighbors couldn't understand her language, nor did most even try!

USA made a big mistake when they let in a Pakistani Muslim like you............

Your decision making is extremely faulty.......

Just wait five years then post again...... LOL!!!!


I have to agree with this

.Atch will go beserk,but these people were cold blooded murderers and should have been executed.

Ho drunk....

Hey, kutas, did you find any Ukrainians in this video yet?

youtu.be/h9RwYPsVpfM

YES,Now I am invading Poland.LOL my breed has invaded your family too and given you beautiful grand daughters in that scarf and your daughter in that blue burka.Did she teach you to raise ya arse 5 times a day yet?perfect for you for ya arse sniffing habit lol.

Dont forget my pic in your wifes purse too:)

LOl no wonder you chose to sit home and bang ya head on internet as per ya bum chum accidental clown car owner:)Its so much fun in outdoor activities.Ever thought of going out with that fat farting wrinkly wife(as seen on ya facebook pics) overseas or for a casual lunch or dinner even if it is KFC.

BTW if those single engine aircrafts if kept up they are safer then em antique rear wheeled Lexus lol until you wanna jump/pushed out of it midair:)

I'm asking you again, who are you talking about? I'll just remind you that this exchange came about because Amiga said the Irish were slaves to the English for centuries and I said we fought for our freedom whilst Poland got hers by a pure accident. You denied the fact that we fought for our freedom and I linked you to a list of Irish wars against the English occupiers spanning hundreds of years. Now who are the Irish terrorists you're talking about? Name them.

So you think Poles never fought for freedom? ......seriously?

I didn't say that. I've read Polish history. But from the mid nineteenth century onwards they pretty much gave up the armed struggle and ultimately Poland regained her independence as a direct outcome of WW1 and not through a War of Independence like Ireland.

Amiga500 is an idiot who probably got born and bred in Australia. It's better not to get dragged into the country vs country or nationality vs nationality wars that he's causing.


Anyone with a half a brain would, imho. Poles were up against three empires, not one.

I completely get your point Paulina and it's a very valid one. Also Poland was a much larger country than Ireland and a very different social order/structure, culture etc. I do think though that Ireland's struggle is remarkable in terms of its longevity. From the late 12th century to the early 20th.

That's not entirely true though, btw. There were also the Silesian Uprisings (1919-1921) and the Greater Poland Uprising (1918-1919) thanks to which Upper Silesia and Greater Poland became part of Poland.

And, of course, the fact that the armed struggle ceased after yet another failure (the January Uprising) didn't mean it wouldn't be resumed in more favourable circumstances. In the meantime Poles turned to the so called "organic work" or "work at the foundations", which I think was a smart thing to do:

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organic_work

A quote from the link:

"Neither as colourful as the Polish rebellions nor as loftily enshrined in national memory, the quotidian methods of organic work proved well suited to the political conditions of the late 19th century. The international balance of forces then did not favour the recovery of Polish statehood, and ,both Russia and Germany appeared bent on the eventual eradication of Polish national identity. The German Empire, established in 1871 as an expanded version of Prussia, aimed at the assimilation of the eastern provinces inhabited by Poles. At the same time, St. Petersburg attempted to russify the former Congress Kingdom and joined Berlin in levying restrictions against use of the Polish language and culture. Poles under Russian and German rule also endured official campaigns against the Roman Catholic Church: the cultural struggle (Kulturkampf) of German Chancellor Otto von Bismarck to bring the Roman Catholic Church under state control and the Russian campaign to replace Catholicism by extending Orthodoxy throughout the empire."

I know, history is never that simple and straightforward.


Yes, I appreciate that. It's a bit like the Gaelic revival movement in Ireland in its importance.

Did you know that Mickiewicz's Księgi Narodu Polskiego i Pielgrzymstwa Polskiego was translated into Irish in 1920 as Leabhar Na Pólainne? Apparently he translates really well and the words flow beautifully in the irish language :))

There seems to be another similarity:

histmag.org/sami-przeciw-imperium-walka-o-niepodleglosc-irlandii-13603

My translation of a fragment from the article:

"After another lost uprising in 1867 the IRB decided to temporarily cease the idea of an armed rebellion and, instead, turn to propagandist and cultural activity."


I didn't know that, thanks for the info :)

Btw, I don't think I have to really say that Poles usually relate to nations fighting for independence and our heart goes out to them, the Irish included :))

Members of my own family on my father's side were in that group. It was a secret organization but of course, being Ireland, everybody knew who they were! One of them got very involved in the Gaelic Athletic Association which was founded in 1884 to promote the ancient Irish sports of hurling and Gaelic football. The great thing was that from 1904 they had a women's team for the hurling. The way in which women were involved in the independence movement was a great thing.


Of course, as do the Irish :) Thomas Davis, (died 1845), an Irish patriot wrote:

"But Russia preys on Poland's fields, where Sobieski reigned;
And Austria on Italy - the Roman eagle chained -
Bohemia, Servia, Hungary, within her clutches gasp;
And Ireland struggles gallantly in England's loosening grasp.
Oh! Would all these their strength unite, or battle on alone,
Like Moor, Pushtani, and Cherkess, they soon would have their own."

Maybe. In any case, I have decided that I can block Korvinus, save myself time through not reading his inane posts, and not miss out on any new information.

He seemed fine before, but has become somewhat emotionally unbalanced in the past year.