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Rich Mazur
7 Sep 2018  #631

We are training our kids to be a bunch of Godless pussies.

Spot on. And the moment they hear something unkind, instead of fighting back, they fall apart, claim PTSD, and run to a therapist.

johnny reb
7 Sep 2018  #632

and run to a therapist.

And put on some designer drugs that have side effect tendencies to make them want to shoot up their school.
And some do and then the anti-gun Liberal Gun Grabbers cry that it was the guns fault.

Lyzko
7 Sep 2018  #633

Johnny, as usual, you're merrily mixing apples and oranges!

Israeli border guards, as compared with US border patrol, are literally on high alert 24-seven because very real threats from countries which have vowed to "drive Israel into the sea!"

Trump wants a border wall to protect his own business interests, scarcely for national security alone! Heck, if the idea were so brilliant to begin with, how come none of his predecessors ever devised such a plan, huh? Perhaps, because it was known to be too outrageous, since surely any number of presidents before this guy had to have been just as smartLOL

johnny reb
7 Sep 2018  #634

Johnny, as usual, you're merrily mixing apples and oranges! Israeli border guards, as compared with US border patrol

Sorry Mark, I thought we were debating the dumbing down of our children by the Progressive Liberal Ideology in the U.S. and the end results of it.

I must try harder to stay on topic of the thread.

Dirk diggler
7 Sep 2018  #635

We are training our kids to be a bunch of Godless pussies

I hate my generation. I feel as I rarely have anything in common with people my age let alone those that are younger. Only positive thing about it is that since there's so many cuck beta males, it makes the dating scene easier. ******** finish first, always.

Us border guards are too scared to shoot people for fear of being all over CNN and then their families getting harassed by antifa types. Then they have to answer to liberal bosses like in California. You invade a country you should be shot simple as that, just like the Israelis do. Any Palestinian that tries to cut into the fence or cross into Israel illegally catches a slug. It's a shame our border guards don't do the same.

It's the same bs in Europe. They have huge navies yet they allow amphibious landings by invaders. Why aren't they sinking these ships or atleast refusing to allow them into European waters? You think Russia China or any other country would allow this bs? He'll no! Theyd be lucky to be out in prison and deported. But instead Europeans coddle tjem, save their asses and give them food housing money while they disappear into the many no go zones and rape women, torch cars and murder natives. If they sank one boat, turned the second around, fired warning shots at the third within a few days none would be coming anymore. Word would get around that Europe isn't ******* around and if you don't get shot and drown, you'll be put in a terrible jail and get deported anyway. Thatd solve the problem real quick.

But no all the liberals would be crying muh rights waaaahhhhh

Rich Mazur
7 Sep 2018  #636

And some do and then the anti-gun Liberal Gun Grabbers cry that it was the guns fault.

I can do better. It's the kids' fault for being there and, thus, creating a tempting target.
In case some of my habitual haters think it's a good moment to jump all over me, think again. There were cases where the rapists were treated more leniently because the teen girls that were raped were dressed and acted provocatively. I swear I am not making it up.

Rich Mazur
7 Sep 2018  #637

Us border guards are too scared to shoot people for fear of being all over CNN and then their families getting harassed by antifa types.

What a splendid opportunity that would be to practice with moving targets and doing something truly good for the country at the same time.
I wrote to Trump about two months ago offering my time and energy (yes, I still have plenty of that) to help build the damn wall, but no response so far. I wonder how many would volunteer is the feds asked. I don't mean to shoot, just construct, and, later, patrol and report. I know I would.

Lyzko
7 Sep 2018  #638

"I hate my generation..."

@Well Dirk ol' fella, guess you and I have at least one thing in common:-)

johnny reb
7 Sep 2018  #639

What a splendid opportunity that would be to practice with moving targets

Instead of a wall I suggested just to fence off a three mile wide strip from one end of the border to the other and use it for a practice bombing and heavy artillery range.

Of course the Liberals would then want signs put up of what times the military would be practicing with their 105's and F-35's.
Now for the love of Johnny Reb can you dumb asses get back on topic of this thread please and stay on it !

Rich Mazur
7 Sep 2018  #640

Would praying for the wall qualify as a religious subject? How about blessing the wall once it's built?

TheOther
8 Sep 2018  #641

Call it the Trump Southwestern Wall and his disciples will organize a regular pilgrimage to pray to their Orange god. Instead of a kippa, they will wear their red MAGA hat while chanting "Jews will not replace us".

johnny reb
8 Sep 2018  #642

Trump is not our Orange god, he is our President Making America Great Again.
Just because you called your Muslim President obongo your Messiah doesn't mean we call our President one.
Did you see the bombshell report from Politico Sunday which revealed that the obama administration let Hezbollah's money-laundering and drug-trafficking operations slide in order to protect the Iran nuclear deal from collapsing.

obama smuggled drugs into the United States and here is my source.
westernjournal.com/obama-allowed-hezbollah-smuggle-drugs-us-protect-iran-nuke-deal-wt/

You can take a boy out of the hood but you can't take the hood out of a boy. lol

Rich Mazur
8 Sep 2018  #643

But you can take a skinny man who used to be a skinny boy and mate him with a big guy pretending to be a woman.

Dirk diggler
8 Sep 2018  #644

Trump is basically a messiah for US conservatives. If it were up to me, I'd make him president for life. This country was gradually going to sh1t first with Bush thanks to all his costly wars and bailing out the banks to the disaster that was the Obama presidency. I don't think anyone could have screwed up the country more than Obama did... This is def off topic though....

One thing that does bug me though is that Trump always seems to make an exception for Jews and Israel, as is expected of any senior level politician thanks to the huge influence AIPAC and similar groups have. The one thing that Obama did was well was handling the Israel-Palestine conflict. Nonetheless, that didn't stop the US from giving Israel tens of billions of dollars. Trump calls out NATO countries like Germany, he ended a bunch of aid to Africa, he ended up billions going to the UN and basically cut out all the billions that were needlessly going to support other countries. That is except for Israel. Trump talks about how the US protects Europe even though Germany and other countries don't contribute like they should. He stopped giving away a bunch of money to other countries.... except Israel, of course...Its funny how he'll never criticize Israel for not paying its fair share. There's no mention of him stopping foreign aid to Israel like he did to UN/Africa. The only reason why US troops are even in Syria is because Israel wants them just incase the Shia axis starts attacking Israel. Assad won this war - 7+ years of nonstop war and Syria totally destroyed. I read a stat that said something like 50% of Syrians either left the country or are internally displaced. Now Israel has even more to worry about as Iran not only controls Lebanon, but now Iraq and Syria. And the US will keep their troops there indefinitely. So much for America first.... really its Israel first second third and somewhere later on its USA.

Speaking on the topic though, it appears Jew is both a noun and an adjective:

verb
bargain with someone in a miserly or petty way

No other religion I can think of is a verb... like you can't Christian or Muslim someone...

johnny reb
8 Sep 2018  #645

This is def off topic though....

Go for it Dirk as the atheist have been allowed to continuously trash this thread a long time ago.
Brett Kavanaugh is in good shape for winning confirmation to the Supreme Court following a week of hearings and some tough questioning from Democrats on the Senate Judiciary Committee.

The Left is having another meltdown with smoke coming out of their ears over this coming appointment.
President Trump's second nominee, who could significantly shift the court's balance to the right by replacing retiring Justice Anthony Kennedy with a more solid conservative, avoided major landmines that might have threatened his support.

Now when 85 year old Ruth Ginsburg dies Trump can appoint another conservative Supreme Court Justice to save what's left of this country's sanity.

Trump MAGA !

Ironside
8 Sep 2018  #646

Trump is basically a messiah for US conservatives. I

No dude, he is not. In fact American conservatives are not very pleased with him. Not talking about the deep state/establishment. The only reason he has won it was due to Hillary's **** poor performance and a fact that Democrats were/are pursuing on some ideological BS. Rather than on put emphasis on the peoples and on solving problems an average American is facing in his daily life.

They basically were courting minorities, illegal aliens, LGBT+whothehellknowwhat people, same fringe loonies and feminist third wave activists. I think they just lost their minds. There is no enough white middle class liberals in this country that would give them a victory. Hell, even plenty of blacks and Mexicans - those smart ones smelled the coffee and said - nooh thank ya. You lizard people stinky mucho! Playa del Lagarto this way!

Dirk diggler
8 Sep 2018  #647

In fact American conservatives are not very pleased with him.

Considering he cut taxes and the economy is booming, often the two most important things for conservatives I beg to differ. Plus even the lying MSM gave him a 44% approval rating which by us standards is very high

Even now the only dems policy is don't support trump and obstruct. Nothing about economics, foreign policy, nothing. Their entire line is just hating Trump and being against anything he does. He could end world hunger and find a cure for all cancers in the same week and they'd still talk about Russian collusion or some **** star he banged.

Now when 85 year old Ruth Ginsburg dies Trump can appoint another conservative Supreme Court Justice to save what's left of this country's sanity.

I can't wait. God I hate that b1tch

johnny reb
8 Sep 2018  #648

She is sound to sleep while serving on the bench half the time from her old peoples meds.
Hopefully she will leave soon like womanizer McCain did.
Hells bells we may even get prayer back into our Public Schools again and Roe vs Wade overturned.
Wouldn't that just shatter the Snowflakes back into their safe rooms stammering to themselves.

Lyzko
8 Sep 2018  #649

McCain was no saint (the divorce thing, his later flip-flopping), but he'd certainly have been an improvement over President Nero who continues to fiddle (..around with the truth) while the US burnsLOL

Rich Mazur
8 Sep 2018  #650

he'd certainly have been an improvement over President Nero who continues to fiddle (..around with the truth) while the US burns

Are you deliberately trying to sound like a preacher or are you simply short on facts in support of that fiddle and burns analogy?

Ironside
8 Sep 2018  #651

onsidering he cut taxes and the economy is booming, often the two most important things for conservatives I beg to differ

Well if you confuse conservatives with ne-cons and 1%.

Dirk diggler
8 Sep 2018  #652

In that sense you are right, many 'conservatives' like McCain were much against Trump. **** them. I call them cuckservatives because they appease the left more than doing what actual conservative voters desire.

Chemikiem
9 Sep 2018  #653

it is relevant as there is a bigger chance of a gay being a paedophile than a heterosexual.

This is why I initially responded to your post. You haven't presented me with any evidence to show that paedophiles are more likely to be gay than heterosexual. Paedophiles like young children. Gay men are attracted to gay men. Some may be attracted to children but equally so can some heterosexuals. I really don't understand your logic on this one Iron. Gay men are attracted to the same sex so it automatically follows that they must therefore be attracted to young boys? How so? Because it 'fits' better with your thinking because both are male?

You're not saying that some heterosexual would go after 15 years old boy rather then a girl. that makes no sense.

I think you're too hung up on labelling people. Paedophiles like young children of both sexes. Straight married people have been convicted of the sexual abuse of both boys and girls. There was a case of exactly that a few years ago in my area. Are you seriously trying to tell me that every single sexual abuse case involving young boys has been committed by someone gay?

it is clearly a progressive agenda. They don't care about abuse they just want to stir people like you and other against the Church.

I disagree.. Iron, I'm not religious. The accusations as far as I'm concerned could equally have been made against Methodists, Baptists, Boy Scout organisations,whatever. I have no axe to grind with the RCC. If people have indeed been turned against the church it's because of the scale of the cover ups. The RCC have shot themselves in the foot with this one I'm afraid. There is plenty of well documented evidence about this. It might not sit well with you being Catholic, but facts cannot be ignored.

liberals love Francis who done absolutely nothing to deal with the problem.

Aargh! More labels!! You would probably label me a liberal as such, but it's true, Francis has done nothing to deal with this, but at least you are admitting that there is a problem ;). I am not entirely sure why Benedict resigned, I have read a few different stories about this, but at least he stuck his neck out and addressed child sexual abuse within the church. Brawo to him for that.

Ironside
9 Sep 2018  #654

You haven't presented me with any evidence to show that paedophiles are more likely to be gay than heterosexual. Paedophiles like young children.

I think I already talk about it. Maybe it escaped your attention. So for your sake I will repeat myself.

1.
WE are not talking about actual pedophiles. We as much as a press and common parlance refers to pedophiles but they actually meant a sexual abuse of the minors/ however you define them a those parcurally anyone under the age of 18 or 16. If you want to address the issue of actual pedophiles those are a very low numbers.

2.
If that were only about pedophiles it would mean that numbers of those who were abused in more balanced ratio gender wise. The only reason that radio is skewed so much towards boys not because of some tra la la imaginary reason you gave but because we are not talking about actual pedophiles but about abusers of children that are gay.

To answer you question. No, I don't have any evidence nor do I suggest there is a clear colerration between homosexual drive and pedophilia although there were some studies that implies it. I don't know and that is not what I'm saying.

My claim is that the general abuse of the minors by some tiny fraction of the priests populace suggest that there is a gay problem in the ranks of the Church that need to be addressed.

IF you are undress impression that all those topic about pedophiles in the church you heard or read about refer to actual acts of a sexual abuse against prepuberty children you are wrong.

I think THAT above refute most of issues your raised in few paragraphs of your post.

Gay men are attracted to the same sex so it automatically follows that they must therefore be attracted to young boys? How so?

Because heterosexual men are not being attracted by young boys but by young girls. Do you think there is no logic in it? Are you really that detached from reality?

I disagree.. Iron, I'm not religious. The accusations as far as I'm concerned could equally have been made against Methodists, Baptists, Boy Scout

Really? In what percentage and for how long it has been talked about. You seemingly believe it is normal to mention something in the news and then focus on grinding a one selected group over and over again and as much as ignore all others doing exactly the same or worse. Congratulations on your detachment from reality. How did you managed that? lots of chamomile tea?

It has to do a lot with the ideological enemies of the church and their propaganda war.

1. Really? I admitted there is a problem? What this crap is about? I never denied facts. I simply refuse to go with this rituals of empty gestures and posturing that is so loved by some people. Like constantly harping about denouncing Hitler, Nazis this or that. (ask of Trump, or some politicians that are deemed right wing()

{its very Oriental or religious after all progressivism is a religion like ideology with many dogmas)
Hell, has somebody asked Obama to denounce every each way weekly Lenin, Marx, Communism and so on? He introduced Obamacare a clearly a populist and communist policy. How came nobody seems to be bothered by him not deigning to denounce communism?

So don't talk to me about labels rather than address the crux of the matter it makes you look weak.

Have a Good Sunday! :)

by the way seems that homosexual mafia in the church disposed Benedict and took Francis as he is just talking lots of BS and does nothing.

Lyzko
9 Sep 2018  #655

Kavanagh's a threat to American freedoms such as a woman's right to choose. Even if she makes the wrong choice, it should be hers to make.

He comes across as far too hidebound.

Rich Mazur
9 Sep 2018  #656

Kavanagh's a threat to American freedoms such as a woman's right to choose.

BS. The right to choose is not a right at all. It's an option if the state medical board chooses to offer it. If the right to choose were really a constitutional right based on the concept of "privacy" between an adult and sane patient and a doctor, ANY and ALL medical procedures would be covered by Roe v. Wade. Including euthanasia on demand. Or an amputation in demand. Or a lobotomy on demand. Roe was nothing but an end run around the voters and the Congress. Libs figured out that what they couldn't possible ram down our throats legislatively, they would be successful using the court. That 5 to 4 vote, btw, was as shameful as any 5 to 4 vote is as they show that we are dealing with pure politics, not the Constitution. In every-day criminal trials, with random uneducated in the matters of law jurors, we demand 12 to 0.

johnny reb
9 Sep 2018  #657

McCain was no saint

He wasn't very intelligent either as he graduated 884th out of a class of 899.
He also crashed three military planes.
He was also told to stay above 15,000 feet but disobeyed orders and took his plane down to the deck when he got shot down in Vietnam.

Why would a guy be a military hero for disobeying orders.
McCain also caused $76 million dollars worth damage to an aircraft carrier that he was on when he took of with a "wet start" with his jet that killed 136 sailors.

He was never even reprehended for it. (Was that because his daddy and granddaddy were both four star generals in the Navy by any chance ?)

McCain's lack of character was further demonstrated when he voted not to repeal obamacare.
He ran his 2016 Senatorial race under the banner he would lead the fight to repeal obamacare !
But, he hated Trump so much he held his thumb down for his vote rather than give a thumb up.
He laughed afterward saying, "Let's see Donald Trump save America now !"
McCain stabbed his constituents and the citizens of America in the back.
John McCain was a Liberal Socialist Hero !
Needless to say I and many others including President Trump did not care for the man.

Lyzko
9 Sep 2018  #658

Why should the uncounted, if sung, heroes of the American Revolution be considered heroes by your idiotic definition?? They broke rank with the British, they disobeyed King George I, and they were in toto a raggle-taggle bunch of drunks....who nevertheless were the best f*****n' rebels, therefore fighters, one could ask for!!

Reality ck. McCain turned out to be the true Maverick, not Donald "Nero" Trump!!

Rich Mazur
9 Sep 2018  #659

McCain turned out to be the true Maverick, not Donald "Nero" Trump!!

You can be a maverick if you tell the voters that you are going to be a maverick. He lied to the voters. That's a problem.

Lyzko
9 Sep 2018  #660

Wrong again, Rich!

He waffled on issues to the voters, there's a difference, and NO, I'm not hair splitting.
McCain ran originally on a clear ticket of campaign reform, along with Senator Feingold,
and during that period began to reconsider seriously a number of conservative "performers" aka abortion and private vs. universal health care.

He realized that a woman has a right to choose as well as that EVERY US citizen has the right to health care.

He was a great American.


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