Religion discussion - muslims, jews, buddhist, and christians

How Jesus could be a Muslim ? You Nazis are nuts !

But seriously, If you mean a "refugee" then he would be in his 20's and either try to steal something or sell me some drugs.

Nah, in the end, a dumb dorks like to claim so.


That's is TWADDLE. LOL!


YEAH RIGHT, you're either very naïve, or not very observant.

Really. If we're talking about Christian civilization. If we're talking about people, some people are nice some are not that nice but one thing is certain. There is a clear moral guidance - that without the doubt is two things at once - better than anything the human race came with and better than anything else there was or is on the planet Earth.

As for your tortured and murdered tune it is just a white noise made by those who are looking for an excuse to justify their anti-religious BS.


Right, that is not the Christianity I know. Maybe you're talking about Germany were some mutated-religion is dying in the corner.

He is referring to the new testament passus - twisting it like all anti-religious self-proclaimed wizards to use it in a pollical issue - about taking in so called refugees.

Thing is BB that really need do not came as a thief at night and do not break the law as your illegal alliance do. The real needy, refugees, poor are waiting till you help them OR invite them, they might knock at the door if they are desperate. Definitely they do not kick the door in and demand hospitality - it doesn't work like that.

So a fail BB!

Definitely! But I doubt you can call it "mutated", rather the future of all religiosity! But it's not our concern, it will take as many generations to leave as it took to get hold....


I dunno...people have always been on the move to better shores when they suffered....

Well, that is your opinion. I don't see it that way. It is muted some really weird people are bishops in Germany, and I mean seriously f up!

I'm talking about Christian charity. If someone want to move he is not needy he is greedy and he can do it provide he obey the law of the land. If he doesn't he has no call to expect anything.

It is not some goodie two shoes welfare scheme for all.

Yeah...we have some Kardinal who likes to take his cross off as to not to disturb muslims...that is weird even for me!

Yes and they worked and contributed. The reason why America became the wealthiest and most diverse country is because you had tons of people coming in from everywhere to work in the us. There were no signups for section 8 or food stamps on Ellis island. Then the liberals started importing undesirables to replace existing voters and promising them handouts in exchange for votes thus leading to the present situation where an economic.migrant is rewarded 1500 eu a month for hopping borders illegally and contributing to a booming human trafficking business that pays better than drug dealing - more money than they'd ever make back home and hence have zero incentive to work and contribute much less assimilate

Yeah...I agree, that illegal crossing has to stop.

Right now we have in Europe the situation that those who spend a gazillion Dollars for human traffickers and made it somehow into a boat, are fished out of the Mediterranean and get even rewarded for all that when they land in Europe...that's really fishy and needs to stop!

I like how Italy now sends them away...someone has to start somewhere.

I hope for Transit Camps in North Africa, or at least on some of the greek islands. And nobody get's any further into Europe without a stamp of admission from them!

Then everyone inside Europe not showing that stamp proves that he is an illegal and can be deported right back, without any long winded juristical bruhaha..And they get only help and a job with that stamp...

Just as they say that we get the governments we deserve, the illegal scum would stop coming if the ordinary people really hated the idea. The problem is that the average guy - and that includes me - is too passive, scared, intimidated, lazy, and not willing to risk anything, including a confrontation with the antifa morons or the cops. And that is why the US is doomed to be Brazil. To stay as sane as I can, I already gave up worrying about the fate of the American whites. By the time they wake up I will be dead.

Just in: The EU has the rescue mission "Sophia" in the Med stopped and ordered all ships back....

When people speak of embracing "moral" vs. "religious" value because all religion is a bunch of mumbo jumbo, I must fervently disagree on this point too.

What is G-d anyhow, other than an overarching moral structure? Religion is merely the letter of G-d, rarely if ever the spirit!

Please give a single instance when religion IS the spirit if you can which you can't as I agree with you.

Hans and Sophie Scholl, for instance, who bravely spearheaded the >White Rose< movement during the last years of war, giving their lives in the struggle. This is but one such example of many, too many to name right here, Johnny. They asserted they were motivated solely by the spiritual principles of their staunch Catholic faith.

Shame on you for being such a cynic!

I wasn't being a cynic Lyzko, I was simply stating that religion has nothing to do with your personal relationship with Christ.

To have a personal relationship with God is not the problem, all the self proclaimed "middle men", human "representatives" are who can't be trusted.

Spirituality is not the problem, the organized churches, rituals and holy books are...that is wholly human with all our flaws and errors and failures, there is not much godly about it!

Oh but it is as very few actually have such a special relationship with Christ.
Many Christians included.

If religion has nothing to do with one's own relationship with the Allmighty, then one might as well not call it religion, but simply good old-fashioned "ethics"!

LOL

I see nothing laughable about that Lyzko as you are right on.
The part you are missing though is that "Good old fashion ethics"/ religion is NOT what gets you to heaven.
Many Christians think because they do good works, sit in the front row of church every Sunday wearing their starched white collared shirt with a silk tie and pressed dress pants, going to confession once a month, tossing a $50 dollar bill in the collection plate buys their fire insurance.

Many have no personal relationship with Christ and don't know Him.
So yeah, religion, going to church, claiming to be a Christian, donating money to the poor yet not having a personal relationship with Christ you fall short of entering the Kingdom.

If you ever read your Bible you would know this.

Well people like to call many different things religion now. For instance, they say football is a religion in many countries, and I suppose, given how devoted some people are to it, it certainly has a religious type of culture to it.

Only when you win!

Johnny, you sound just like Archie Bunker when he noted that he belongs to the "right" religion because he doesn't do the "right" thing, but rather whatever the Bible literally instructs him to do. He's proud he "don't belong to none o' dem der' offshoot like religions....."

This type of non-thinking, illogical balderdash reminds me too of the Matthew Harrison Brady (Wm. Jennings Bryan) character in "Inherit The Wind" in which he quotes verbatim from Scripture every event enumerated in the New Testament, only to have his non-argument properly smashed to bits by the likes of Henry Drummond (Clarence Darrow) who proceeds to rip Brady's testimony apart chapter by chapter, verse by verse until the latter looks like a blubbering, blabbering idiot there on the stand, finally succumbing to a fatal heart attack from all the stress of having to defend a defenseless cause:-)

I can never remember me saying that I belonged to any religion but I do remember you saying that you are a self proclaimed generic Jew.

Why you are so infatuated by attacking my faith shows that you are uncomfortable with your own.
Maybe that is because you have no faith, yes ?
I have repeatedly explained to you that I walk by Faith, you walk by Sight, which blows your perpetual repeating of "To Inherit the Wind" movie out of the water.

So before you attack my Faith again maybe we should debate your faith or the lack of.

Incorrect thinking. My repeating of that great film is never as relevant to the discussion as now, in an age of a presidency governed by animal gut strength and shows of force instead of human intellect and wisdom.

Trump's no better than Erdogan, Xi or Putin when you come down to it! His punishments may be far less draconian, but behind his words??

There's where the danger lies.

Johnny, I'm not "attacking" your faith, quite the opposite. I simply want you to see your blindsided ideology for what it really is, that's all.

That is exactly what you have done repeatedly Lyzko especially when you have had a bottle of wine or two.


Why are you so infatuated with my ideology and faith to constantly attack it with your ignorance ?
It really is of none of your concern what my faith is especially coming from someone that practices no faith or religion at all such as yourself.


It was great entertainment but far from substantiating anything concrete.


It was about evolution which is a very small segment of the Bible.
It excited you though because of your blindsided ideology.
Try reading the whole Bible and just maybe you will be able to connect the dots of your blindsided self proclaimed nothing.
It's easy to sit back and JUDGE another's ideology and faith when you have none.
So before you attack my faith again I think it only fair we talk about how you worship as a self proclaimed Jew that has never stepped foot in a Synagogue.

You can start by telling us what your faith is or isn't.

I've actually read the Bible, both Testaments and over a period of several years, in English as well as in German.

It remains nothing other than substantive literature, told by the semi-ignorant with delusions of knowledge since they were among those who were literate, to the illiterate masses who knew even less than those who "authored" the Scriptures, thus were dependent on others to teach them a world they couldn't comprehend entirely.

Science and religion essentially are both headed in the same direction, merely using different tools of explication at their disposal.

The pleasant, indeed quite beautiful, poetry of Genesis cannot of course serve as a textbook for the Natural Sciences for anyone with half a brain:-)

What does any of that redirect babbling balderdash have to do with your pretentious half brain pseudo ideology ?

The same thing your rambling, primitive, idiotic half-baked crappolla has to do with this thread!

That would be most remarkable if your German is not any better then your self proclaimed Polish has proven not to be.
You have claimed to know how to speak, read and write Polish too, have claimed to be a college professor, have claimed to be a Jew, have claimed to......... lol.

Patience johnny, patience.......


Wrong again, the Bible is the inspired word of Jesus Christ.
Remember the verse that says, "come, I will make you fishers of men."
Christ's apostles spread Christ's teachings which were recorded into the handbook of life called the Bible.
Everything you need to know to inherit eternity is in it.
So let's go back now and discuss your self directed idiotic half-baked crappolla ideologies that may be in conflict with the Holy Bible.

You say the Bible is G-d's word incarnate. The Muslims claim the Koran as their Holiest of Holy texts and that it is Allah's word, same for the Hindus and their Bhavagita, Upanishads etc..

We can't all be right! How d'you know that perhaos THEY'RE right, and not you?
I was taught to believe there's only ONE G-d in the long run:-)