Religion discussion - muslims, jews, buddhist, and christians

Why do you refuse to spell God properly ?
There is only one God in the end and we will all be meeting Him on judgment day.


Goody Gum Drop for you as I was taught to believe too.
I don't attack your beliefs the way you attack mine like the following quote to ABUSE me.


Looks like my beliefs ar rattling old Satan but good dunnit.
Now for the third time......let's go back now and discuss your self directed ideologies that are in conflict with the Holy Bible that rattle you so much.

Jews don't write God's name out. God's full name is only uttered a few times at one of the holiest sites in Israel

Thanks Dirk.
I just googled why.
·The name of God should be treated with respect
·God has many names in the Bible
·A Name should not be written, so it will not be discarded disrespectfully
I can respect that.

From france24.com:

STOCKHOLM (AFP) -
Danish prosecutors on Tuesday charged an imam with calling for the killing of Jews in the first case of its kind in the Nordic nation and which sparked political outrage.

This is the true face of Islam.

As an atheist I should stay out of this one, but I can't resist it. Playing those games with the - vs o should actually be viewed as an insult to God. She is a lot smarter than that and any attempt to fool her by using a dash instead of an 'o' is just that - an insult. Just like those moronic prices ending with a bunch of nines. $29,999.99 is 30 grand no matter how hard they try to play mind tricks with me.

Observant Jews don't typically cross their "t"s in a name, as technically it us making the sign of the cross:-) Often, for instance, the family "Weit" is written as "Weil"!

:-)

I guess ever religion has it's little superstitions, including mine.


There is no such thing as an atheist Rich.
Ask any 'LURP' that did a tour or two in Vietnam.

OK, let me rephrase it. My vocabulary does not include 'I believe'. Either I know or I don't. Everything else is a matter of probability.

I do know that religions and Gods are human inventions for the reasons that are simple to understand. That does not make them objectively true. What people do facing death is another matter and proves nothing.

I say it proves that "Faith" is instilled in us by the Holy Spirit when we are faced with a life or death situation that is beyond our control knowing we could be meeting our Maker at any minute.

But that is just my opinion that I have experienced.

How do they use computers? I just typed 'computers'. Do they type compulers?
Is there any evidence that those who write letter 't' as it should be die early?

I think Lyzko was referring to family Jewish names.


Anyone with a half a brain should know that the Bible stands in the way of science, the greatest scientific geniuses in history were devout Christians and scientists from Newton to Einstein who insisted that biblical religion provided the key ideas from which experimental science could develop.

I parted with Christianity at 14 when I realized that the miracles were simply lies or, at best, pure ignorance. Today, the miracles they connected with JP2 to make him a saint are so laughable I would be embarrassed to offer. Once the miracles are off the table, the whole thing collapses.

That does not mean that Jesus was a bad guy. Sometimes one has to lie to impress. We do it every day and it doesn't mean we are evil. But he was just a man just like MLK. No difference.

^ Thanks for clearing that up expert.

Other than that, do you have anything else worth reading to post?

@Johnny, can't you conceive of the fact that throughout the writing of history, there's doubtless been sooooo much PR connected with said history??!

We're all familiar with the oft quoted line attributed to the Father of Relativity:

A. E:. G-d doesn't play dice with the universe!

N.B.: (Niels Bohr - a half-Jew, by the way) Albert,stop telling G-d what to do!

Then again, Einstein might have invoked the name of G-d in order to placate hyper-sensitive, puritanical American contemporaries who accused
him of being everything from an atheist to a CommunistLOL

I believe in G-d, and, guess what, I also believe in evolution vs. Creationism, and I don't see any conflict whatsoever.....'CUZ THERE ISN'T ANY!!

For the umpteenth time, science and religion are both perfectly valid ways of explaining the mysteries of life; they were both conceived however for
vastly different audiences:-) They're both heading in the same direction, merely choosing different routes from differing points of departure:-)

No, they are not. Science thrives on being challenged. In fact, a true scientist asks other scientists to review and poke holes, the more the better for the proposed idea.

Religion is based on blind obedience and what one guy who hates to be questioned says. Church is more peaceful with the heretics today only because the church managers know we would throw their asses into a slammer if they got as violent with the heretics as they used to.

Id have to agree. Jesuits formed hundreds of schools centuries ago all over the world and they operate to this day. I went to a Jesuit school for my bachelor's. The president was a priest and all students had to take 3 theology classes as part of the liberal arts curriculum. The Jesuits especially pushed for secular education

The Vatican has had an observatory that they built centuries ago. Many priests teach subjects outside of just theology too. But yes all religions sought to answer questions that science can't. And it's still like that to an extent for example the age old question of what happens when we die.

The body, if left unprotected and exposed, is eaten by animals or just rots and the water evaporates. We don't like it so we make the dead as inaccessible to other forms of life and water as much as possible within reasonable budgetary limits. Nothing mysterious.

Then why do you assault my beliefs about the validity of the religion part with statements like this ?


I have come to the conclusion that you really have no idea what you are talking about and just want to be part of the debate like you do in so many of the other threads here.

Nope, nothing left to say. Since you 'realised' miracles were simply lies, there isn't really anything to investigate anymore. Thanks for enlightening us.

Can you name one that (1) cannot be explained in any other way or (2) is in violation of the laws of physics or chemistry?

Just so that we will not waste time about miraculous healings, if you get a flu and I say 'flu, leave this good man' and the flu disappears in a week or two, did I perform a miracle?

If you have an example of a miracle that withstood the scientific scrutiny, please, enlighten me and I will repent. I just gave a chance to make me a believer again so don't blow it.

I did notice that you conveniently skipped over the possibility that miracles are pure ignorance and mentioned only that they are lies. Nice move, though.

My bet is that if you come back it will be with another sarcastic and dismissive comment. We will see.

I do admit that dealing with the supernatural can be tricky and that I could be wrong, so I promise to repent as soon as God, pope, or any of the saints restores a missing arm to an amputee. Or am I asking for too much because God cannot be bothered with the simple cases like a missing limb, but, instead, prefers to show his miracle-making abilities by curing only the diseases that are neurological, bacterial or viral - like Ebola.

Johnny, I'm not attacking honest belief, I'm attacking blind faith in something without acknowledging that another opinion may also be right!
In science, we learn that the earth as we know it, by the laws of nature, took at a conservative guesstimate, oh' ballpark several hundred MILLION years to form into roughly what she is today, for that matter, since the presence of man on this planet.

In the Bible, the version we all read states in the first Book of Genesis that G-d created the world in SIX days, and on the seventh day, Sunday (in your calender), He rested from His labors, right so far?

OK, fine. Now how does anyone honestly know whether a single "day" wasn't in fact a million or more years, after all, modern systems of computation weren't accessible to mostly illiterate populations, right?

Well then, there you have it, Mr. Brady aka Bryan. YOU figure it out, you do the math.You Creationists and we evolutionist BOTH are correct this time, it seems:-)

Lack of knowledge should never equal a divine intervention. All the discussions about God creating the universe - no matter how long it took - are embarrassing at best.

If there is a dead body with a bullet in the head and we don't know he killed him, is it a divine hand that did it?

The surest way to end any intelligent conversation is to mention God or say that you heard your mother's voice from beyond after spending 700 bucks for 20 minutes with that fraud, Sylvia Browne, who, by the way, was wrong predicting her own death by 11 years.

You use the word "guesstimate" very loosely here.


Jesus talked in parables while He taught.
A parable is a short and clear didactic story, in prose or verse that illustrates one or more instructive lessons or principles.
A parable is a type of analogy.
I have taken Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior which filled me with the Holy Spirit.
I now walk by faith and not by sight as you do.
So when Jesus taught that God His Father created the earth in six days I believe Him because of my faith.
If you want to make movie star Mr. Brady, who claims evolution, your god then who am I to say that you aren't allowed to.

Just don't attack my faith with words like "guesstimate", rambling, primitive, idiotic half-baked crappolla to substantiate your claims.

Funny thing that religious nutters always whine about people attacking their "faith" while at the same time not accepting the beliefs of others. Just like they keep telling themselves that Trump is in the WH because God wanted it that way. Probably as punishment... :)

politico.com/magazine/story/2018/01/27/millions-of-americans-believe-god-made-trump-president-216537

I'm not here to prove or disprove miracles to you. I've never said miracles definitely happen, or that God definitely exists. It requires faith, and I feel that I have see enough things in my life to have that faith. But that's what it is, faith.

I just find it amusing how you think you 'know' something, based on not having enough proof.

I know that's how it works in court, if you can't prove somebody committed a murder then they're found innocent, but it doesn't mean they definitely didn't do it, just that enough evidence wasn't found to be certain they did it.


Nah, perhaps 20 or 30 years ago, but it's more the other way round now. Atheists don't seem to want to leave religious people alone, and keep hounding and mocking them for their beliefs. It's like they can't live with the fact that somebody chooses to believe in a higher power. Don't get me wrong, there are religious crazies too, but the majority of religious folks just want to be left in peace to worship as they please.

"Miracles are technology yet not known!"

When you visit today with your hightech some reclusive amazonas jungle tribe you will be seen as "god" too!

Maybe there is even another dimension (or two) besides our own plane of existence and who knows what happens to our life energy after we leave this fleshy shell, but that worship of something we just don't understand and still try to force on others with the help of dumb rituals and commandments and the threat of "hell", born of ignorance and misunderstandings, grates on my nerves...

Satan and the souls that he has stolen will never let that happen.
Satan and his followers live for the world and worldly desires because they believe there is no eternal life.
Jesus Christ followers live by faith believing in their eternal salvation.
If my faith is wrong, I have nothing to lose, if they are wrong, they have a whole lot to lose.
Eternity is for a very long time.


Hey Buddy, Trump won the presidency didn't he !
Now that was nothing short of a miracle.
Even after the stacked deck against him by the DNC and Deep State's collusion.

Yeah...I never got that one. What's so great about sitting on a cloud and play your harp for eternity? :)

Heaven and hell are totally human concepts...and frankly not to believed!

"...rambling, idiotic, half-baked crappola to substantiate your claims.."

Yo, Johnny! You stealin' my line??!
LOL

Seriously though, certain things we all simply accept on faith, I will admit, such as the rising and setting of the sun each day or such what.

On the other hand, the lesson one od my favorite movie examples is trying to teach, is that when we stop thinking, we die.