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TheWizard
16 May 2018  #511

I have to say, she makes me cringe. Her campaign made me cringe. I can see why bill prefered Monica's lips.

Dirk diggler
16 May 2018  #512

@TheOther

It was a slogan. And yes trump said he would PROSECUTE her, he NEVER said he would put her in jail without trial. Sadly, he never even had her indicted her which he should have at the very least to balance out the so called russian collusion and get the dems focused on saving their dear leader instead.

Nonetheless, buying up ad space is not manipulating or hacking an election and there was no collusion. Everything the dems found out about manafort I wrote on this forum WAY BEFORE he was ever even charged. He obviously had contact with russians because he was hired by yanukovich. And I wasn't even involved in the investigation its common ******* sense. Yet it took millions of taxpayers dollars for the left to figure that out..

TheOther
16 May 2018  #513

It was a slogan.

Oh come on, Adrian. For Trump and his handlers it certainly was slogan, but not for his followers. They took it seriously. Just search PF for examples.

Yet it took millions of taxpayers dollars for the left to figure that out.

How much did we spend for the stupid Clinton investigations (both Bill and Hillary) over the years?

You know, to be honest - I don't believe that this thread makes much sense anymore. The country is divided and it will probably never grow together again after Trump and his GOP minions in House and Senate are done with it. It's high time for a strong third party to flush our corrupt politicians out.

Donald Tusk made an interesting comment today:

"Looking at latest decisions of Donald Trump someone could even think: with friends like that who needs enemies. But frankly, the EU should be grateful. Thanks to him we got rid of all illusions. We realise that if you need a helping hand, you will find one at the end of your arm."

That's probably where the Democratic and Republican voters in our country stand, too. Sad (and I mean it).

gregy741
16 May 2018  #514

Donald Tusk made an interesting comment today:

finally he said something that make sense.
UE should sanction gulf states and start buying oil from Iran,Iraq and Syria using Euro.
get close trade alliance with Asian states,such as China Malesia, Singapore.-future is there.build silk road
Invest in Russia in mining resources.and close military and economic ties needed
need financial capital in Europe.move from London.
build wall around America.and put sanction against them.enough of this US warmongering and wars.and dump dollar

Dirk diggler
16 May 2018  #515

@TheOther

The whole sexual misconduct was stupid with bill I agree. But hillary should be indicted amd prosecuted and its mind boggling that she hasn't been. If i had a JD id launch a class action against her and sue her in civil court on behalf of whatever victims have solid evidence. In a weird way though I have respect for her for the fact that she's managed to steal and launder hundreds of millions of dollars without ever being even indicted.

As much as I'd like for that to happen, 3rd parties have never been successful in the US and due to the competitive monopoly created by dems and reps its unlikely that this will change anytime soon. Even Bernie who was an independent sided with the dems because he wouldn't be able to run a campaign otherwise.

Only way I could see that happening is if a group of like minded people campaign for low level municipal and state positions like mayors, boards, etc then gradually become a force, gain some minimal support from lobbies, donors, etc as they increase their territory and power, then work themselves up to the house, Senate, Congress, etc. The lack of campaign funds and media exposure is the biggest problem for 3rd parties in the US and until thats changed itll continue.

Lyzko
16 May 2018  #516

These are smokescreen issues in the final analysis, folks!

Europeans laugh at our hypocritical puritanism. If the person's accomplishments are satisfactory, who gives a hang about his personal life??
FDR, for instance, had a mistress and it remained hidden. Yet that didn't negate the fact that he was a great president, greater indeed than Bill:-)

It's only that people like Weiner got caught. Americans can understand sex scandals, not bilking corporations or the type of high finance swindles of

our president.

Dirk diggler
16 May 2018  #517

Why do you have such a boner for FDR? He was nothing special and certainly not great. In fact his policies made the great depression even worse amd prolongued it. Plus his policies have caused labor force participation rates to decline ever since they were enacted because as time goes on more and more lower and middle class people realized theyll have a better life if they let taxpayers pay for their home, food, healthcare, kids and now even their cell phones instead of working.

Plus, he helped expand the fiat system and took us off the gold standafd forever screwing up the US economg and the vakue of the dollar has declined by 97% ever since.

He was the opposite of great - he was awful and thanks to his policies both the middle class and wealthy suffer to today.

newsroom.ucla.edu/releases/FDR-s-Policies-Prolonged-Depression-5409

mises.org/library/how-fdr-made-depression-worse

Crow
16 May 2018  #518

People, I think that EU`s Federica Mogherini gave to Serbian president Vucic. Body language reveals everything. Do you think she would give to Trump, too? Do you? Maybe he already had her. Vucic is second flute, for sure.

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Lyzko
16 May 2018  #519

FDR pulled this here country out of the Depression! Without him, where would we be without Unemployment insurance, medicare, Social Security? In the toilet, that's where. Guess you'd like that, wouldn't ya! You'd love a plutocracy where there's no middle, only the fortunate 1% and all the rest can go to hell, huh?

And you call yourself a Christian? Ever heard of "charity begins at home"?

Dirk diggler
17 May 2018  #520

Incorrect, he prolongued the depression as UCLA professors and other econimists/business people note. He basically enabled the US to go on a fiat system by getting rid of the gold standard. And besides the market doesnt need any help getting out of a depression or recession. And he and the Fed tightened the miney supply numerous times - which is the exact opposite of what you want to do in a recession or depression. He and the Fed did it to enrich his friends all of whom like the Rockefellers Morgan Vanderbilt etc all sold every last share and pulled their money out before black Thursday. Not one industrialist or monopolist lost money in the great depression and you're the one talking about plutocracy? Check your facts lyzko fdr and the feds pokicies helped the US plutocracies consolidate and make even more money during the depression thats a fact. Government doesn't fix a recession or depression. It happens on its own due to market forces and competition. It is a culling of the herd plain and simple. Onlt sifference is fdr and the fed along with the plutocracy of the us engineered this crisis and then became even wealthier while fdr pretended to be a man of the people. They had no where else to turn but to the same people who stole all their wealth. And we're paying for it to today! Whenever government interferes they jusg end up prolonging it, wasting a ton of money on programs that dont pan out like Obama's green energy bs which only the Chinese profited from especially a123 Corp not Americans, it raises the deficit even more. All it does is dampen the effects by stretching them out and that's exactly what Obama did with the recession and fdr before him during the depression.

Yes without his policies the dollar wouldnt have declined by 97% since the 30s so we wouldnt need a system like social security as the dollar would buy twice as much stuff. Besides social security is bankrupt anyway its just a matter of mathematics and time before payments to senior end. Even now what are they a grand or so a month? That barely covers seniors medicine co pays for medicine and doctor bills, let alone rent and food. Some 'great' system....

The only people that social security helps is those on bogus disability so they don't have to work. If i wanted to I could go on disability and stay at home. Almost anyone can. Being overweight, having high blood pressure or a 'bad back' qualifies you. I could stop working out, eat a bunch of Cheetos and chocolate, gain 50 lbs and type 2 diabetes and Id get my 1200 a month, not have to pay rent, get free healthcare, free food and smoke all the weed I want all day long - as tens of millions of able bodies Americans do with that number increasing every year - all taken out of the labor force. Thanks FDR the taxpayers of my generation really owe you one...

If it wasnt for his fiat system and 97% decline we wouldnt need even social security for seniors. Obama qualified bed rest as a legit activity to do while on disability... thatd what people like fdr and Obama lead out country to and that's why democrats love tjem because so much of their base are lazy bums that dont pay any income or corporate taxes. So no sh1t the dems never talk about tax cuts because it doesn't affect a huge chunk of their base and the other dumbasses dont mind paying for someone else's laziness because they believe it corrects social injustice or whatever bs theyve conviced themselves of

Thanks fdr and Obama for making tax paying Americans support able bodied people who don't want to work yet live the same kind of lifestyle as if they were bringing home 50k 60k a year. Awesome...

iwf.org/blog/2796127/Americans-on-Disability-Skyrocket-%E2%80%93-Especially-Under-Obama
investors.com/news/ssdi-disability-rolls-skyrocket-under-obama/

All thanks to fdrs original policies

johnny reb
17 May 2018  #521

FDR pulled this here country out of the Depression!
B.S........Polly, want a cracker??? Crawwwwww
NO ! NO HE DID NOT !

You'd love a plutocracy where there's no middle

Are you projecting again in hopes of another pity party ?
Didn't you just tell us how you paid cash on the barrel head for a new house in Jersey ?
Seems you are happy to be middle class if there is any truth to it.

And you call yourself a Christian? Ever heard of "charity begins at home"?

And you call yourself a Jew ? Ever hear of "save the tears" ?

Joker
17 May 2018  #522

Read up on "the South" and its history, Iron. About the Civil War for example

You forget to mention in your history report about the KKK? Oh yeah, they are created by them Southern Dems as well. Hee Haw!

The first is that Progressive Liberals never admit to being wrong.........NEVER !

Its impossible to have an honest conversation with someone that wont listen to a word of what youre saying.

I gave up and just laugh at them now:)

The country is divided and it will probably never grow together again after Trump and his GOP minions in House and Senate a

I think Obama divided the country more than you realize?

One thing we can agree on is TERM LIMITS for both parties. This is a huge issue and would solve sooooo many problems!

johnny reb
17 May 2018  #523

I gave up and just laugh at them now:)

I hear ya bro.
They just keep repeating themselves thinking if they repeat it enough they will convince somebody it is true.
Problem is we keep rolling along with new material every day while their stagnant redundant agenda is to just hate Trump.
It's all explained in prophecy.
Remember what Jesus said: 'Goats on the left, sheep on the right' (Matthew 25:33).
Jesus also told Peter that if he wanted to catch fish do it from the right side of the boat.
He did and filled the boat with fish.
John 21:6.......He said, "Throw your net on the right side of the boat and you will find some."
When they did, they were unable to haul the net in because of the large number of fish."
Origin of Left & Right... I have often wondered why it is that Conservatives are called the "Right" and Liberals are called the "Left".
Then by chance I stumbled upon this verse in the Bible: Ecclesiastes 10:2...... "The heart of the wise inclines to the Right, but the heart of the fool to the Left."

Pretty much explains it.

Joker
17 May 2018  #524

B.S........Polly, want a cracker??? Crawwwwww

Thats al it is....Parroted Dem talking points, Cracrawwwwww

Now, that the phony investigation has diminished and morphed itself into another hollywood hooker scandal. Yeah, that never gets old and predictable. lol

Ask him who's paying for Stormy attorneys fees?

I hope they keep this up all summer ...Hahahaha!

I have to say, she makes me cringe. Her campaign made me cringe. I can see why bill prefered Monica's lips.

And then they spawned a creature named Chelsea. Half human half Janet Reno, John Mc Cain even said so......lol

Nothing like Republican hyperbole, really.

Nothing like another loudmouth expat, really.

Dirk diggler
17 May 2018  #525

The funny thing is I bought a macaw recently and one of the first things I taught it is 'fake news.' It always cracks me up wjeb im flipping through the channels or cnbc is on during the day and I hear craaaww fake news craaaww

Next ill teach it 'snowflake'

delphiandomine
17 May 2018  #526

Nothing like another loudmouth expat, really.

Nothing like an unemployed American posting on PF in the middle of the night, really.

Joker
17 May 2018  #527

Unemployed? Hahahaha! Lets compare paychecks, really.

TheWizard
17 May 2018  #528

Look on the bright side, it will be easier finding a job now under Trump since the USA has an economy again.

Joker
17 May 2018  #529

For those seeking employment, the economy under Trump has been better than any other President for decades!

Too bad delphia couldn't get a taste of what its like to actually be his own boss and to be a proprietor, but then again, the world needs ditch diggers too.

Its probably why he cant travel anywhere and why he is on this forum 24/7 pretending to be something hes not, very sad Indeed.

Lyzko
17 May 2018  #530

Albeit Roosevelt's legacy surely deserves reevaluation, his mistakes such as regulating interstate commerce and that kosher chicken fella in New York which Brandeis and the Supreme Court shot down. Nevertheless, without Roosevelt, the middle class would once again be blamed for their difficulties.

Contrary to popular bilge, NOT everything which befalls a human being is always necessarily their fault. We don't choose our birth, we do though choose our status and we don't need a Trumpian/Reaganist gov't. thinking it needs to remind us "who we are"!!

johnny reb
17 May 2018  #531

Oh but the MAJORITY of them it IS their fault by making bad choices Mark.

we don't need a Trumpian/Reaganist gov't. thinking it needs to remind us "who we are"!!

If not them then who ?
Only a Progressive Liberal would promote such propaganda because actually that is EXACTLY who needs to remind us who we are.
People have been so spoiled with government handouts that they now vote for a living instead of work for a living.
They have become slaves to the government and couldn't feed themselves if they wanted to.
The ones that sit home all day every day complaining on their computer of how life is not fair and not doing anything about it to help themselves.

No doubt there are some who have fallen on hard times which weren't their fault but more of them then not are on hard times because of their own bad choices.

I have explained this to you a dozen or more times here Lyzko and yet you still come back with your same old bilge pity party blaming Trump and Reagan for these losers making bad choices.

YES, Yes you do needed to be reminded who they are and I have no problem doing it.
These welfare queens want to live the high life that is way out of their means or league.
They need to be reminded that in order to jump a social class from lower class to middle class or middle class to upper class IS NOT a god given right.

Either get an education, get a good j.o.b., work hard to reach such a goal or accept the fact that you are lower class or middle class and do the best you can in that class because it is no one else's obligation to "give you" what they have WORKED FOR just to put you on easy street.

(Do the words of "You didn't build that, someone else did," come to mind.
Get it this time or can we look forward to more of your monthly stagnant redundant agenda of repeating your Liberal Progressive pity party of how everyone deserves a trophy in life even if they don't deserve one for what ever reason because of their bad choices or bad luck.

Life is not fair, fair is where you eat cotton candy and step in monkey ****.

TheOther
17 May 2018  #532

You forget to mention in your history report about the KKK? Oh yeah, they are created by them Southern Dems as well.

The were founded by some Democrats and not by the Democratic Party. Skipped history class?

I think Obama divided the country more than you realize?

Yeah, I remember that every freaking white supremacist in the country (including Turtleneck and his GOP clowns) was howling when a black dude entered the White House. The whole opposition against Obama was about his skin color and nothing else. No need to beat around the bush here.

Ironside
17 May 2018  #533

Read up on "the South" and its history,

inform yourself

Dude, make your point already will you. Stop embarrassing yourself with that drivel. You have no idea what I know and what I don't know.

If I were to make assumption about you basing it on your posts I would say that either you're a kid, a senile person or a genuine moron.

IF you have a point to make beside - your don't know nothing and understand even less - let hear now. If not just stop it. Its pointless.

TheOther
17 May 2018  #534

make your point already will you

If you don't understand the point I'm making, then stay out of the discussion, Iron. Simples.

Dirk diggler
17 May 2018  #535

Oh please for the majority of republicans and even dems obamas skin colorr had nothing to do with it. People wouldve been just as pissed that he tripled the deficit, more than bush and clinton combined, wasted tons of money on green energy programs like a123 battery which made the chinese 500 million just for holding the compaby for like 6 to 12 months, plus his failures in Iraq syria and especially libya. Remember the red line speech? How about isis is junior varsity? The only reason why he was elected is becaude hebwas a smooth talked and the us voters namely dems wanted a black president or at least not a white male. Plus bush turned a lot of people away from the republicans.

Plus here were tons of blacks and latinos who weren't find of his policies. The one good thing he did was not kow tow

Idk why the left and dems make everything about race. They complain more about race than most racists

johnny reb
17 May 2018  #536

If you don't understand the point I'm making, then stay out of the discussion

No offense but none of us here understand your high school redundancy.

Dirk diggler
17 May 2018  #537

@Lyzko

See now Eisenhower was waaay better than roosevelt. He was a man's man. I dont support all the interventions and coups he got the us involved in BUT he warned us even back then that militsry spending and the military iindustrial complex along with the growing deficits - much of it thanks to fdr.

Lyzko
17 May 2018  #538

@Johnny, the whole point is we don't need ANYONE to tell us what our place is within the human food chain. If we deviate, we face the music, if the deviation is a bad choice for others, then we face the consequences and punishment, such as with Bernie Madoff or Shel Silverman.

@Eisenhower was a mediocre president, but a gold-star general who became president SOLELY based on his sterling status in the service. By that account, Marshall Zhukov should have become Russia's first post-war head of state, and not Khrushchev.

johnny reb
17 May 2018  #539

the whole point is we don't need ANYONE to tell us what our place is within the human food chain.

There are people out there that don't know there place in the human food chain and therefore need to be told, so that is the point.

Most have lived such a pretentious spoiled life that they get their feelings hurt when reality sets in to accept things the way they are and not the way they want them.

Most of them cry about how unfair life is and start their blame game on how they deserve better and more because their inheritance has run out yet they want to move up the food chain and live like the Joneses do.

So sad, to bad.

Dirk diggler
17 May 2018  #540

@Lyzko

If anyone is a leader of men its a 5 star ww2 general... i cant think of a better qualified person to safeguard the civilian population from a foreign invasion which was very likely at that time....

and unlike FDR he didn't institute policies which caused the value of the dollar to decline for decades to come nor did he enact enact a bunch of programs that created a welfare state where more and more people leave the labor force, claim disability even though most are able bodied and can work any number of jobs. Thanks to FDRs policies theres less and less taxpayers paying for more and more people on bogus disability claims. Accoeding to one statistic, 18% of the labor force (people aged 15 to 65 according to bls constitutes labor force) has submitted an application for disability. During Obama's reign an additional 5 million people went on social.security. fdr started it, Obama expanded it because so much of his base pay no income tax and livve off the government so naturally they love a president who gives more people more free stuff.

@johnny reb
The sad thing is that so many millenials say they want socialism and communism. They tend to be spoiled kids who never worked a job, have mommy and daddy paying their tuition (one girl was on the news because she wanted to sue her parents since they wanted het to work for tuition and not just give her the money), buy them a car, pay for all their stuff, and many dont even work a part time. I know they're not working because when I was doing my bachelor's I wouldn't have time to waste in a stupid protest or walk around for hours in a stupid pink pussy hat. No all the time I had was spent studying, working, and going to class. I wish I could've been drunk 3 4 nights a week and at the time I was jealous that so many kids didnt have to.work. and on top of it they were totally average students even though they had more time to study. As soon as I got close to.graduating I was so happy I had already a solid 5+ years of work experience under my belt while these other kids didnt have anything besides caddying a summer or two, if even that. It was extremely easy for me to find a good paying job right after college. And then these same douchebags say oh youre lucky you landed a good job. No ************ I'm not lucky, I worked my ass off and had way more experience than most grads so I wasn't treated like some punk still wet behind the ears who doesn't even know what clocking in means or how to do income taxes.

We need a system like poland has - a meritocracy where people are rewarded by their merits. Poland will give you something like 80 euro a month in welfare. That's it - just enough so you don't starve. There's no taxpayer funded cell phones and apartments for able bodied lazy bums. Thats why poles are so hard working and labor force participation rates so high. Now teump wants to make a system where in order to receive food stamps and other benefits you have to either prove youre looking for a job - and not the bs system they have now OR attend job training. Naturally the dems and their non tax paying base will oppose it. No more handouts for able bodied people!! Cut off all their benefits and after 2 3 4 days of having no money to buy food, pay the bills, etc theyll be begging for a job at McDonald's. Our economy would become 50% more productive within a month and set a gdp growth record.

I swear I loathe 95% of my generation - the millenials. Especially the men, and I use that word loosely as millenial women are now ballsier, more confident and more ambitious than men. They're more masculine because theyre assertive. These fools talk about distribution of wealth and equality and socialism yet none of tjem would ever hand their new iPhone or daddy funded BMW to a homeless guy. Talk about cognitive dissonance.... Theyll scream and shout about communism and wave ussr flags yet theyd never leave the us for a real commie country like north Korea or Venezuela or Cuba. They ***** and moan and whine about trump and how every hetero white male is the devil. Then they wonder why they cant get a good job when they graduate. Well dumbass, if you spent more time studying and working a part time job then employers would be far more keen to hire you. Almosy every employer will.take a hard working ambitious college kid from the hood who pulled him/herself up than some rich kid soy boy who never worked a real job a day in his life. Then they cry about onlynbeing able to get a job as a Starbucks barista. Well what do you expect with a liberal arts or gender studies major and zero relevant work history? Now theyre six figures in debt, cant pay it off bc they cant get a decent job, but yet they want you to pay for it and make college free because of their years of bad decisions...


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