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Dirk diggler
5 Jun 2018  #781

Joker and rich check this out

forbes.com/sites/adamandrzejewski/2018/06/04/the-exclusive-100000-club-meet-30000-members-at-the-illinois-teachers-retirement-system-trs/amp

Teachers and educators making 100k to 400k a year... And peiple wonder why illinois is in such a terrible state and has tens of billions in unfunded pensions

The expat teachers should cone to chicago. Work for a year or two, save your money then go back to poland and live like a prince

johnny reb
5 Jun 2018  #782

Look at Trump himself. He'd have been the laughing stock of Germany

More of your, "I HATE TRUMP !" parroting.
You know it has come to the point with you unpatriotic Progressives that if it takes a blood bath to get rid of you once and for all then let's get it over with.

Who cars what Germany thinks.
Trump was elected by Americans to represent Americans, not Germany.
And you don't think that America has had it's chuckles over Merkel. HA !
I can remember you saying that you would leave the country if Trump got elected, what ever happened with that ?

Dirk diggler
5 Jun 2018  #783

Look at Trump himself. He'd have been the laughing stock of Germany from early on

Yet theyll be BEGGING for America's help should russian bombers and nukes fly over germany

. You people HAVE learned from the dangers of charismatic, unintellectual leaders rising to the top. Apparently, America hasn't yet learned that lesson.

Trump is no dummy. He used his dad's political connections and business sense to make an empire fred trump could only dream of. No ones perfect and he made mistakes too both in business and as president. One thinfs for certain though - his policies are helping the market and housing prices to go up, labor participation rates are holding steady with unemployment way down because people.who want jobs are finding them, and it looks like hes going to open NK for business. Who knows maybe he'll even open a Trump Tower Pyongyang. NK has a ton of minerals just no technology to properly survey and extract high yields.

Obama was certainly an intellectual. But theory and idealism do not create practical policies. Obama tripled the debt - after bush already doubled it. He was soo progressive with green energy that onlt the Chinese actually profited. He wanted to help his base and win a 2md term, so he expanded disability and thanks to him having anxiety or depression qualifies you. And we're paying for the bs now and will for decades to come until someone lile trump puts his foot down and says no more handouts for able bodied people and indeed thats what he's stated

This is exactly what i mean

finance.yahoo.com/news/immigration-agents-arrest-114-landscaper-140227951.html

No, ICE wont round up 114 illegals with felony warrants and gang members. Too hard, too dangerous for the cops even with all their weapons, Kevlar, budget and numbers. Like usual, cops chose the pussy ass easy way out. Instead of arresting illegals that are committing crimes everyday and bragging on YouTube about people they dropped they go for the low hanging fruit. Nope instead they go after freaken landscapers who are actually contributing to the economy and doing jobs that other American citizens.

And of.course trump and ice will brag they deported 'violent illegals' when in reality they rounded up working class poor peoole at a cost of 30k a pop and now the American citizens who employed them are ****** as are their customer's.

Lyzko
5 Jun 2018  #784

Trump's actions to date, not to even mention his capriciously cancelling the Phili Eagles' affair at the White House all because of players expressing themselves, indicate as Phili's mayor stated earlier (a Republican, I believe) that our Tweeter-in-Chief is more dictator than president and has got to learn that he's going to hear lots of stuff which will displease his own personal sensibilities and will simply have to get used to it!

@Johnny,
Who cares what Germany thinks??! Plenty of people. Try nearly eighty million of 'em:-) Why should they care what the US thinks, huh?
The Marshall Plan ended seventy-five years ago and eternal gratitude gets awful tough to take with America continually rubbing Germany's nose
in it for over half-a-century!!

At least the latter has more than adequate medical care for ALL her citizens, not merely the super rich.

Joker
5 Jun 2018  #785

Trump's actions to date,

1) the summit with NK is back on for June 12th

Lets talk about important topics instead of your liberal parroting, if you can handle the facts? But you will ignore them just like Duh Other does.

One fact at a time with you....lol

Work for a year or two, save your money then go back to poland and live like a prince

Yes, but only under conditions of working at CPS for the first year.

They will quit after one week...haha

capriciously cancelling the Phili Eagles' affair at the White House all because of pla

Who cares Lyzko? Its just a bunch of overpaid babies and I couldn't care less about football either. Its all aside show distraction created by ppl like you and the msm who hate Trump.

Judging by the NFLs ratings they really shot themselves in the foot with their PC nonsense.

Im glad Trump told these clowns to beat it! Hahaha

Dirk diggler
6 Jun 2018  #786

) the summit with NK is back on for June 12th

I wonder who will be first to build the fast food joint in nk like Kim asked. Whoever does whether its McDonald's burger king taco bell whatever

I've always wanted to visit nk. However, the trips are quite expensive - youre looking at 5 grand a person for a pretty basic vacay. I will eventually go though during the arirang festival. I want to see that and also see how a country stuck in a soviet time warp looks like. The only other place like it is transnistria.

The guy who runs the trips is named alejandro d caoe or however he spells it. He is a Spanish aristocrat who loves the dprk. He's handles all their foreign affairs and likely a good chunk of business for the regime. Kim jon ils brother lives in Warsaw. Up until nosy german journos exposed the nks working in poland, pl and nk had pretty good relations all things considered and even better in the prl days.

liberal parroting

Haha i got my macaw to say fake news, Donald Trump, and a few commands like hello and bye.
I'm working on crooked hillary but phrases with more than 2 3 syllables are hard for him still. He loves music too hell like dance bob his head etc

Its all aside show distraction created by ppl like you and the msm who hate Trump.

Always is... If I were trump I would've ended the bogus russia investigation or at least put a strict time line on it via executive order. Americans esp the left have a habit of being forgetful and having short attention spans. No onr would be talking about it within 3 4 weeks tops. Theyd move onto yet more name calling and more ists and isms. Almost 2 years and NOTHING that wasn't already glaringly obvious to anyone with half a brain esp w manafort

TheOther
6 Jun 2018  #787

Who cares what Germany thinks.

... and France, and China, and the U.K., and Australia, and Canada, and Mexico ... and the rest of the world. Every decent American should care what they think. America can't go it alone in a global economy, and our farmers will find out the hard way very, very soon. The Koch brothers are beginning to pour their money into anti-tariff campaigns, which tells you all you'll need to know.

Who would've thought that winning trade wars is so complicated...

phrases with more than 2 3 syllables are hard for him

Same thing with Trumpanzees. They are barely able to form a coherent sentence. LOL!

Dirk diggler
6 Jun 2018  #788

The Koch brothers are beginning to pour their money into anti-tariff campaigns, which tells you all you'll need to know

Well duh it hurts their bottom line....

I do agree the steel and aluminum tariffs weren't the best and will harm especially us auto.

The intent is good, to boost domestic production, mining, sourcing raw materials domestically etc. But in a globalised supply chain its too much, too drastic in way too short of a time. Im not an expert on supply chains but I know enough that the tariffs will hurt a lot of companies as they either figure a way to eat the costs by either raising prices, looking for cuts and finding domestic suppliers IF they can find one that's cheaper than their new variable costs which may not be possible due to a variety of reasons - contracts, customized orders, a JIT system they already have in place or simply because even with the new tariffs its still.cheaper than domestic steel and aluminum, usually because of labor costs which are far far lower abroad

But you gotta take the good with the bad. No.leader is going to appease everyone everywhere everytime.

johnny reb
6 Jun 2018  #789

All in all Trump is leveling the playing field with China by BILLIONS that they have been raping America for for many years.
Another feather in Trumps hat to "Make America Great Again" !
WASHINGTON - China offered to purchase nearly $70 billion of energy, agricultural and manufactured products from the United States in the first year of a deal that would require the Trump administration to suspend tariffs on Chinese products.

The offer would go only partway toward President Trump's initial demand that China reduce its $375.2 billion trade surplus with the United States by $200 billion annually.

Trump 2020 !

Ziemowit
6 Jun 2018  #790

leveling the playing field with China by BILLIONS that they have been raping America for for many years

I have been wondering for years why America let itself raped by China this way. China set its currency exchange level against the dollar where it wanted for so long which was the easiest way for them to control the trade surplus with the US.

Dirk diggler
6 Jun 2018  #791

All in all Trump is leveling the playing field with China by BILLIONS that they have been raping America for for many years.

Indeed they have been. No us leadenr had the long term visit see that China would end up besting the us economically. However tariffs arent the way to go about esp on raw materials and esp on steel and aluminum which negatively impact us manufacturers especially us auto industry. However for finished goods like washing machines the tariffs are appropriate. We definitely should be creating finished goods and exporting them. Instead we export a ton of raw materials and less and less finished good. That needs to be reversed.

The main reason why trump is putting tariffs on the eu isn't because he wants to boost exports, its because he's pissed at the eu for buying russian gas and the nord stream 2 project and to a lesser extent their refusal to also sanction iran. Trump wants to bully the eu into buying us gas over Russia's even though its 3x as expensive due to marine transport costs. Economically the eu is equal to the us in terms of gdp. He will have a hard time bullying the eu into buying us gas over russian. The only thing he can really hang over their heads is security.

Lyzko
6 Jun 2018  #792

@Joker at al,

We're once again blithely missing the forest for the trees! It's not a question whether the Eagles, the Hawks, or the NY Nicks are overpaid or not!

Clearly, the issue remains as to why this president is so paranoid that he's unable (or simply unwilling) to accept and internalize criticism just like anybody else?

The man's evidently unfit to lead and the House aka the Senate should do the US the favor of seeing to it that's he's impeached, in post and in haste!!

Dirk diggler
6 Jun 2018  #793

he's impeached

Won't change much if anything just like with bill Clinton. He's still president because he won the election. Its a shame so many people on ghe left can't admit trump won and he's president, like it or not thats how a democracy works.

is so paranoid that he's unable (or simply unwilling) to accept and internalize criticism just like anybody else?

Many business types are like that with bill gates being a good example. Oftentimes the most productive meetings are ones where pressure is high and people are yelling, swearing, name calling. But ultimately the issue, strategy, etc is hammered out effectively and at the end everyone's friends again.

Although yes trump is unique in the sense that he fires people at a whim. Its slowed down now but ever since he became president he reshuffled top positions nonstop. That's not a good strategy because shortly after a person is up to speed, theyre out the door. Then a replacement is quickly hired, he or she is also broguht up to speed only to also be fired soon after. That's one of the things that bug me about trump.

But ask yourself this, would hillary have been better? I somehow seriously doubt she would be.

TheOther
6 Jun 2018  #794

I have been wondering for years why America let itself raped by China this way.

Nobody is forcing Americans to buy Chinese, Canadian, Mexican or European products, and vice versa. The country has only itself to blame for the mess its in. Uncontrolled consumption, greedy corporations, a lack of competitive American products (other than software and services), and American consumers that are addicted to cheap crap are the main reasons for the current trade deficits. The theft of intellectual property and the currency manipulation by China are different problems.

China offered to purchase nearly $70 billion of energy, agricultural and manufactured products from the United States

They did this before, and then nothing happened. Talk is cheap.

johnny reb
6 Jun 2018  #795

Talk is cheap.

At least Trump is straight up Making America Great Again.
Muslim obama lied and went behind our backs selling America out with false sanctions.
The Senate Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations revealed that under President obama, the Treasury Department issued a license in February 2016, never previously disclosed, that would have allowed Iran to convert $5.7 billion it held at a bank in Oman from Omani rials into euros by exchanging them first into U.S. dollars. If the Omani bank had allowed the exchange without such a license, it would have violated sanctions that bar Iran from transactions that touch the U.S. financial system.

obama's effort was unsuccessful because American banks themselves afraid of running afoul of U.S. sanctions declined to participate.
The obama administration approached two U.S. banks to facilitate the conversion, the report said, but both refused, citing the reputational risk of doing business with or for Iran.

"The Obama administration misled the American people and Congress because they were desperate to get a deal with Iran.
Look what a **** deal that turned out to be.
Notice the difference between Teflon Trumps tactics versa our previous Presidents tactics on sanctions.
TRUMP 2020 !

Dirk diggler
6 Jun 2018  #796

@TheOther

I'd have to agree. Well technically market forces do force consumers, purchasing managers, etc to get the best value for the lowest price. US simply isn't as competitive. And a very small part of it is because of large tariffs for us finished goods i.e. American cars in eu which yes trump should reciprocate against 100%... tit for tat.. eu made american imported cars expensive so europeans buy more european cars and less american ones unless they pay a heavy tax, so we should do the same for german and swedish cars. Then once everyone comes to their senses all tariffs cam be abolished and the free market with the theory of smiths invisible hand can reign

Us use to be the leader in exporting manufactured finished goods and importing raw materials. Now were the opposite. We're a leader in exporting raw materials and importing finished goods. It appears trump wants to have it both ways - export more raw materials and finished goods. What will happen remains to be seen. However that approach seems to run afoul of the notion of comparative advantage

Import substitution industrialization, etc. I guess we'll see how it works out. But it seems like its one step forward one back for us workers and industry. Tarriff on Chinese washing machines - step forward, tarriff on aluminum and steel - step backward...

I think his intentions are good or at least were. Problem is he got knee deep into the swamp he wanted to clean up. But that's how it is in a democracy... If he removed all the figures, lobbyists put term limits etc hed upset the apple.cart waaay too much for both the reps and dems. Don't think that the dems and reps hate each other. Its all a ploy. Its fake opposition. Just look at people like McCain, the Bush family, Clintons, etc. They all want the same thing they just go about it different ways. People may campaign and be all idealistic and make promises but once theyre actually in the senators, congressman, governors presidents etc chair they realize how different things really are.

TheOther
6 Jun 2018  #797

At least Trump is straight up Making America Great Again.

I was referring to China when I said "Talk is cheap". They have promised to open their markets and buy more U.S. products several times in the past already, and nothing ever happened.

American cars in eu which yes trump should reciprocate against 100%

While the EU slaps a 10% flat rate on all American cars, pickup trucks and vans, the U.S. charges 2.5% import duty on cars and a whopping 25% on pickup trucks and commercial vans from Europe. Fair? Despite: nobody wants American cars in Europe anyway; especially not our gas-guzzling SUVs which are unsuitable for European cities.

Dirk diggler
6 Jun 2018  #798

nobody wants American cars in Europe anyway;

That's not entirelt true. In poland american cars are considered as much of a luxury item as german cars, perhaos even more so due to their rarity and cost. There's a ton of jeep wranglers around poland. Cherokees not as much because of their cost. But compacts like the Ford focus, fiesta, etc are popular and in demand, but then again theres the tariff. Also, us cars are popular in the uk especially Ford's and to an extent Chrysler products like jeep. Not So much gm cars like Chevy. I've never seen a Chevy in poland and only 1 Cadillac.

Actually now that you mention it i only saw one American pickup in poland - an older early to mid 2000s dodge ram pickup. People were like taking pictures of it and sh1t and I'm cracking up bc in the US a guy would he loading scrap metal or yard waste into such a car lol.

Fair?

Nothing is fair, that's part of the reason for tariffs and taxes. Everyone wants to make the most money possible for themselves, their business, their country whatever. And oftentimes in order to do so 'unfair' practices are adopted.

Policies that are unfair for other countries I can deal with. Stupid policies that harm us, not so much

TheOther
6 Jun 2018  #799

compacts like the Ford focus, fiesta, etc are popular and in demand

I know, but I didn't mention them because they are all build in Europe and not the U.S. (anymore). They are not considered American cars, but European.

Nothing is fair, that's part of the reason for tariffs and taxes.

Then Trump should stop whining and tell the truth. The USA wants to take advantage of other countries just like the others want to take advantage of us. You only win that competition with superior products, not with coal, oil, natural gas and offending your trading partners.

Dirk diggler
6 Jun 2018  #800

didn't mention them because they are all build in Europe and not the U.S. (anymore).

Im.pretty sure the focus is manufactured in Mexico and the fiesta is the only car wholly made in Eu (germany). There's still a tax on American cars but its small.

Trump is Also going after german cars specifically Porsche/Audi and BMW. The auto tariffs would especially hurt germany especislly the luxury brands like BMW since the majority of their sales are in the us.

I dont know all the ins and outs of every manufacturer where it has factories what taxes, tariffs, etc are paid and how squeezing the bubble on one side will effect the other. Im just hoping that trumps people did that research.

The fact is though 80% of economists are against the street and aluminum tariffs. The others I dont care so.much about but I do know based on my experience with commodities that the tariffs on those will hurt. With autos, idk the complexities...

TheOther
6 Jun 2018  #801

Im.pretty sure the focus is manufactured in Mexico

The Focus for the European market is manufactured in Germany, Portugal and Russia. Some parts may come from elsewhere, of course.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ford_factories

The auto tariffs would especially hurt germany especislly the luxury brands like BMW since the majority of their sales are in the us.

BMW is the largest U.S. automotive exporter. Try to hit their exports from Germany to America, and you will see what happens. The private owners of BMW are quite the German patriots. Slap 20% import duty on German luxury cars and the price increase will simply be passed on to the American consumer. Rich consumers, I should say, because most people can't afford these cars in the first place or can't afford to maintain them. A tariff is an added tax for Americans, not for Germans.

TheOther
7 Jun 2018  #802

Build that wall! Who's going to pay for it? Mexico!

Meanwhile in...
Tennessee: 97 illegals arrested in a meatpacking plant (cnn.com/2018/04/12/us/tennessee-immigration-raid-schools-impact/index.html)
Ohio: 114 undocumented immigrants arrested in a garden center (cnn.com/2018/06/06/us/ice-undocumented-immigrants-arrests-garden-ohio/index.html)

Complaining about illegals, voting for Trump, hiring undocumented immigrants. That's the GOP spirit, Trumpmonkeys!

johnny reb
7 Jun 2018  #803

Build that wall! Who's going to pay for it?

The wall would pay for itself with the BILLIONS upon Billions we would save on the welfare benefits we are now paying to feed, house, school, pay their health care, pay insurance claims because they have none, court systems and legal fees, house them in our prisons, the costs the drugs that they are smuggling in on our society, and on and on and on.

That's how so copy this because it is the last time I will explain it to you.

That's the GOP spirit, Trumpmonkeys!

And just what is your spirit obamamonkey ?

TheOther
7 Jun 2018  #804

And just what is your spirit

We all know that you and your ilk love to bend over and take it from Trump and the GOP as long as you can scream MAGA and show your hate for anyone that isn't white. You've just proven your ignorance again in the post above. Don't worry about it - you guys will be gone in a generation. There are no good people amongst white supremacists. Understand my "spirit"?

johnny reb
7 Jun 2018  #805

MY Ignorance ! ..... as you just made a hypocritical racist post if there ever was one. lol
Topped off with more "I hate Trump" parroting rhetoric. lol
You are not a 100 % Caucasian are you ? (We expect not a honest answer to that question or it would explain your racist post)

- you guys will be gone in a generation

Us guys ?
Be honest and tell us what percentage brown aboriginal are you ?

Lyzko
7 Jun 2018  #806

@Dirk, many business types are indeed like Trump, but no way on G-d's green earth does that make it right:-)
Things can change, if enough tough-minded Dems such as New York's Gov. Cuomo are willing to go one-on-one in the virtual boxing ring with this miscreant in the White House!

johnny reb
7 Jun 2018  #807

Trump will go down in history as one of the greatest Presidents in your life time.

Dirk diggler
7 Jun 2018  #808

You only win that competition with superior products, not with coal, oil, natural gas and offending your trading partners.
@ TheOther

Absolutely. And like I wrote above the us use to be a nation thay exported the most finished goods and im ported the most raw materials up until around the 80s. Now that situation is reversed - we export raw materials and import finished goods. If get back to exporting finished goods, the question is can we do it with all the other competition caused by globalization esp from China, will we then focus less on exporting raw materials and what implications does that have...

Trump will go down in history as one of the greatest Presidents in your life time.
@ johnny reb

I would say that so far in my life yes president trump is the best out of the 3 Ive lived under -
Clinton, bush and Obama. But what presidents follow after him remains to be seen. I use to store trump.and loved his campaign and first few months in office. But ive cooled on him since. Hes done a lot of things i don't agree with, hasnt kept.numerous campaign promises, and got in bed with the same swamp he said he'd eradicate. Nonetheless I still believe hes way better than hillary

The private owners of BMW are quite the German patriots.

Ehh not really. People buy german cars because theyre good cars not because they love germany. Just like people buy Toyota and Honda for reliability and high resale - not because theyre so fond of japan.

A high tariff on bmws causing their price to jump by 20% would merely mean their demand drops and consumers look for other cars due to the substitution effect on the supply and demand curve.

TheOther
7 Jun 2018  #809

People buy german cars because theyre good cars not because they love germany

That's not what I meant. The two families that own 50% of the shares are patriotic to an extent that borders nationalism. They would have no problem to show Trump the finger. Remember, they have a big factory in the U.S..

Us guys ?

You white supremacist Evangelicals. Better?

Lyzko
7 Jun 2018  #810

Trump will go down as the most outrageous president perhaps, hardly the "greatest".

He's essentially all smoke and mirrors, most of which might explain his profoundly unpresidential demeanor. Easy to talk about how great the border wall idea is if one is a well-heeled W.A.S.P., quite another, if one is either the child of or a Hispanic immigrant/migrant themselves, facing often unjustified prejudice every day of their life.

Listening to Savage just now and heard his attack on the "Dreamers, dreaming of how to put one over on tax paying Americans..", couldn't help imagining myself as a Jew in Nazi Germany and the blood libel stories about Jews drinking the blood of Christians for Passover and wondering just how foul prejudice cuts both ways.

Savage, for one, is justified indeed in his criticizing those in the US who uncritically embrace "diversity" and its excesses. No, I don't support another country's custom, for instance, defecating on the sidewalk as "cultural expression"!! However, it is ever so easy to fall into the category of attacking "those people" every time another dead animal carcass turns up in a residential neighborhood of outer Long Island, and blame recent arrivals from south of the border for these admittedly unspeakably disgusting acts.

Trump cuts with a double-edged sword and sooner or later, he's going to slit his own throat, severing the arteries of American justice in the process.


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