75 Years of Israel and the War

You misunderstood my native-like English communication in which I use certain language shortcuts to address intelligent people. :):):)

Read my words again:
They want to target Hamas but affect civilians as well.

which means

They want to target Hamas but at the same time affect civilians. Which further means they don`t care about Palestinian civilians. That is why I call them animals, the same as Hamas terrorists.

The use of "but" is essential in my original quote. It makes it impossible to interpret it the way you did it.

It is late and you are tired. Never mind. :):):)

And what was that aid used for? Have you seen the Gaza tunnels? They don't look shabby. The bill for just the concrete isn't a small amount.

youtu.be/vJqlf2SGHC0

Russell Brand podcast Israel/Palestine & Trauma with Gabor Mate

Wow, surprising results at the UN voting, Germans and Poles finally growing some balls and refusing to blindly obey orders from the master.

USA pariah state?

Poland and Germany declined to vote. They didn't vote for, or against. We all know the United States is controlled by Jews.
A little known fact: foreign policy towards Israel is treated as a domestic affair. There is no budget gap. Israel receives unlimited funds. If Israel was treated as a foreign policy there would be a limit to their budget.

What Israel has to do, is pretty much impossible. They have to return to the borders preceding the 67 war.

This would likely mean the collapse of any government, which signed such a deal. It would mean the painful relocation of settlers that had lived for decades in their homes. By many, it would be interpreted as a triumph of terror over civilization.

I don't argue for this way, out of any sense of higher morality or justice. Such, unfortunately is the fate of the Jews. High achieving, scientifically gifted, and unusually generous - they still know they have to work more than those around them to deserve acceptance. Good, bad - I don't care - it's a fact.

Same here. Doesn't matter if they're in the right, because they were attacked first. Because they are stronger, or more civilized, or perhaps more seeking of peace - they should be the the first to make a grand unilateral gesture.

If even then, the Arabs find some reason to try to force Israel into pre-1948 borders, then Israel should be given carte blanche by international bodies to legally annex any held territories.

If Israel continues to pursue its macho policy of "no apologies", sooner or later it will run into serious consequences which I outlined in other posts. It's a never ending doom loop.

Israel must win, then everything will return to normal (which is indeed abnormal, but the whole world accepts it). However, if Israel ever lost and ceased to exist, it would have disastrous consequences for us. First, a fanatically Islamic state would be created in Israel's place. Secondly, millions of Jews would leave Israel and flee to the USA or Europe where no one expects them. So let everything stay the same as long as their war is just another TV war.

You forget the arabs....let them grow up and throw their fanatics out of the house, then a lasting peace is possible....or do you think they are forever unable/unwilling to?

How about the other way round first:? Israel returning the West Bank to Palestinians which means Arabs won`t need to support Hamas and other terrorists any more.

They have done exactly that with Gaza.....all troops out, all settlements closed....the whole territory absolutely "Judenrein"....and what happened? Hamas got voted into power and kept it since....killing the most Jews since the Holocaust.....why repeat that error again?

For these arabs it isn't about the Jews in Gaza or Westbank, it's about the Jews in Israel, about the existence of Israel!

No, they gave Palestinians left overs. And Palestinians are right to demand more. Simple.

They won't get Israel....they want a functioning state, worth to live in, they have to build it themselves, so simple!

No need to. The West Bank and Eastern Jerusalem are enough.


They will, I assure you, with gigantic funds from rich Arab states. They only need land. And sooner or later they will get it. Israeli animals are really stupid thinking their occupation is eternal.

You really should become a spokesperson for the Palis....Hamas will torture and kill you for trying to negotiate with them Jews, but hey....

Hamas doesn`t attack Europeans.


Keep the balance in nature and become one for Israeli animals. :):)


Either they understand it at last or one day they will be completely destroyed. And their nukes won`t protect them coz the coalition of hostile anti Israel states will also possess them. Legally or illegally.

.....before that they will make these arabs bleed, there will be only a hole in the dirt left!

But animals can`t kill all the Arabs. Most will remain and dream of vengence.


Exactly. But the old proverb of the bees says that the bigger hole you make today, the bigger one you will fall into in the future.

I am really amased you and animals don`t grasp such simplicities.

....and you seem to be just another dumb western leftist! Supporting a radical islamist terror organization which sees you only as a perversion to their religion.

For them you are not better than these Jews, as Israel....that you and your people don't want to grasp that is not even funny even more, it's another level of sad!

There are no leftists in Gaza...no gays, no queers either....only in Israel! Get a grip man!

PS: Just recently a 16 year old girl was beaten to death in Teheran because she seemingly wore her headscarf not correctly.....these crazy murderer, that's the people behind Hamas, thats the people you support! Congrats!!!

Hey, Nazi boy, I have been waiting for this moment when you get hysterical and start your usual abusing. So, you are getting the same dish in return, my Nazi darling. Ha!


Stop lying, Nazi boy, I never said I support them, quite the contrary.

PS. Why are Nazis and rightists such stinking liars????


Congratulate yourself on your Nazi support for animals.

Yo, paw!

Let's icksnay with the name calling, allright?

Why Paw???? Go to Nazi boy and tell him it was his huge mistake to resort to abuse and lies first.

Maybe it was a mistake....but seriously, as a western leftists to support these murderous Islamists is such a worse mistake! One wants to shake sense into you and asking what the hell is going wrong in that head of yours. Why do you wish such a hell on Earth to win?

Let's keep ignoring each other, okay? There is nothing left to discuss actually....

Labeling people is unhelpful and merely fans the flames of intolerance. Always easy to classify people. Germans are "Nazis", Poles are "stupid" etc. ad nauseum. All negative stereotyping.

Just remember, for every German who supported the Brown Shirts, there were other Germans who stood by the White Rose:-)

It doesn't aid your cause to label, let's put it that way.

You are crazy, Nazi boy. I will always debunk your lies which you are happily repeating.


Not all Germans. Just this Nazi boy here.

They could turn that place into the ME version of Singapore; instead, they opt to spend resources and energy on building underground tunnels and HQ within a hospital complex.

...be unemployed ex-warriors whose only experience is pulling the trigger and slashing throats?
I don't think they would be impressed with your idea, AV...

:). Obviously not.

Don`t be stupid. Israeli nationalist animals would never allow Palestinians to develop Gaza into second Singapore.

Or you aren`t really stupid, only obfuscating and manipulating on purpose.

Another demo be decent Am Jews demanding ceasefire in Gaza. They are my brethren, indeed. I salute them.

Well, considering that from the get-go Israel has sought and backed agreements that would give land to Palestinians and allow them to develop economically, it's not really stupid.

Consider more recent agreements Israel was willing to enter into such as the Clinton Parameters and the negotiations in 2008. It was the Palestinians who reject agreements, not Israel.

Plus, look how Israel has entered into peace agreements with countries like Egypt and Jordan. It shows that Israel is willing to make and honor equitable agreements. That cannot be said about the Palestinian side.

It's like what BB said, the Palestinian people need to make the change. They need to support those in Palestine who want to live in peace with Israel, not eradicate it.

Palestinians are as fvcked with Hamas as Germany was with Nazis and the US is with its MICC.

How many Amricans paid the ultimate price because of these motherfvckers? What has changed after that? Nothing.

There is nothing Palestinians can do.

How many attempts on Hitler's life? 42? Just one guy, one gun, and one bullet...Didn't happen and the war went on till my beloved Red Army could say hi to him.