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75 Years of Israel and the War
pawian
8 Oct 2023 #122
Hamas are the reason the palestinians live as they are
No, it isn`t. You simplify it. There are other factors, too. The Israeli policy to remove Arabs from their homes and land to turn the disputed territory into purely Jewish ethnic area is probably a major issue which fuels the conflict and provokes terrorist attacks.
what pawian wants me to do...
I only want you to stop drinking when you post coz the results are deplorable as we can all see. You bite innocent posters like a rabid Alsatian dog. :):):)
Paulina
8 Oct 2023 #123
@BB, I see you edited that post, so I'm going to comment further too:
Being on both sides means here to support Iran and all the arab muslim nutters who think it will please their god to kill as many "unbelievers" as cruelly as possible!
No, of course not. I'm not on Iran's regime side, I'm not on Hamas side, I'm against terrorism and religious fanatism in general.
pawian
8 Oct 2023 #124
Can history be repeated today?
Hamas went on their killing spree on the anniversary of Jom Kipur war of 1973 when Arabs surprised Jews with an unexpected attack. After the war Jews realised they should start negotiations with their Arab opponents coz Israel couldn`t afford more human losses in next wars. In result, Israelis reached an agreement and signed a peace treaty with their major enemy, Egypt, in 1979.
I am pretty sure Palestinian terrorists are trying to make history repeat itself. Kill as many Jews as possible and make them sit at the negotiation table at last.
Paulina
8 Oct 2023 #125
Israelis know that and to rescue the hostages means more loss of there lives, the mooselimbs also know that.The whole thing was planned and soon there will be a prisoner exchange,maybe in hush hush.

Paulina
8 Oct 2023 #127
@Cargo pants, what is your problem? o_O lol
"US will send Ford strike group to Eastern Mediterranean in support of Israel; at least 4 American citizens killed in attacks":
stripes.com/branches/navy/2023-10-08/uss-gerald-r-ford-strike-group-israel-11636405.html
"The USS Gerald R. Ford, the Navy's newest and most advanced aircraft carrier, and its approximately 5,000 sailors and deck of warplanes will be accompanied by cruisers and destroyers in a show of force that is meant to be ready to respond to anything, from possibly interdicting additional weapons from reaching Hamas and conducting surveillance.
(...)
Along with the Ford the U.S. is sending the cruiser USS Normandy, destroyers USS Thomas Hudner, USS Ramage, USS Carney, and USS Roosevelt and the U.S. is augmenting Air Force F-35, F-15, F-16, and A-10 fighter aircraft squadrons in the region."
Miloslaw
8 Oct 2023 #128
@Paulina
Israel will never be defeated.Besides the USA, other countries will come to their aid.
The attack is by Islamic extremists backed by Iran who are in turn are backed by Russia......
Another proxy war....... how long before it becomes all out war?
Cargo pants
8 Oct 2023 #129
US will send Ford strike group to Eastern Mediterranean in support of Israel; at least 4 American citizens killed in attacks":
All that is called muscle flexing.They will never see action until Israel is in serious trouble and cant defend itself,which is not going to happen in near future.
BUT........"FINISH THEM"
as Lady Nikki Hailey said.
GefreiterKania
9 Oct 2023 #130
What? I go to sleep a bit early and what do I see? I see that while I was sleeping two uninformed posters were ganging up on BB. Scandalous.
Let's remind ourselves about the the difference between palestinian Arabs and Israelis in this conflict (see #79). Does everyone see the moral difference there, children?
It is very interesting also that the same people who like to blame Russians in general (not only putinist government) for the war in Ukraine, fail to see the responsibility of the Arab population for their continuous and unwavering support of Hamas. Bratwurst Boy is absolutely spot on: Arabs there are like Germans used to be in Europe - repeatedly starting aggressive wars but, unlike Germans, never being properly punished for it.
So now, children, let's remind ourselves a little bit of history:
1. Starting from 1948, when Israel was attacked for the first time by the armies of 6 Arab countries, all the wars the Jewish state fought were defensive ones (pre-emptive strikes against gathering armies or terrorist organisations were defensive actions as well). Israel's wars were fought to avoid another Holocaust, because wiping Jews was what Arabs openly admitted as their aim.
2. in 1947 the proposed partition of what is today known as Israel, gave Jews a much smaller country than it is today. Jews accepted it gratefully, being thankful for finally having their own state whilst Arabs rejected the agreement and attacked Jewish settlements with the aim of wiping them off the face of the Earth. They started the war, lost it and had to face the consequences. They were like Germans, only Germans have been forcefully removed from Polish regained lands, for example, whilst Arabs weren't removed from the lands under Israel's control - a huge mistake that has been haunting Israel ever since.
3. Palestinian Arabs were already given their country in Palestine - a country much bigger than Israel. Great Britain under its mandate divided the Palestine into two parts, assigning 75% of its lands to create a country called Transjordan and later Jordan (notice how the name of the country was changed to break all the ties with Palestine). All the Arabs should be in what today is called Jordan.
Yes, of course, you may argue that palestinian Arabs were not only assigned 75% of British Palestine Mandate (Transjordan) but also a big part of the remaining 25%. However, they themselves rejected the deal and decided to wipe Israel off the face of the earth instead. The history repeated itself later, when Israel time and again faced annihilation in wars against multiple Arab states (while all the time being under constant terrorist threat and attack).
So, to sum things up - there should be no Arabs in the West Bank and no Arabs in Gaza today. Just as Hitler was the ultimate cause of German population expulsions from Poland and Czech Republic, in the same way criminal Arab leaders (who either took part with their armies in the aggresive wars against Israel or supported Arab terrorist organisations) - starting from 1948 until today - should face the consequences of their crimes and be forced to accept Arab refugees from palestinian settlements. If Poland alone could take in millions of Ukrainians, then filthy rich oil Arab states (and others too) should have no problem whatsoever in accepting their brothers and sisters from West Bank and Gaza.
It is the only way to end the constant violence and civilian deaths and it should have been done decades ago.
Crnogorac3
9 Oct 2023 #131
US began airlifiting military supplies to Israel. It is astonishing that nearly $3 billion in annual (!) military aid from the US couldn't prepare the country to defend against lightly armed fighters. Israelis will have to ask some hard questions about state level embezzlement⬇️
twitter.com/Karmabash/status/1711107859747111350
Crnogorac3
9 Oct 2023 #132
Okay....where are the pics of jewish settlers dancing over the body of some mutilated arab
god's chosen people
ULTIMATE DISRESPECT: BARBARIC ISRAELIS ARE URINATING ON PALESTINIAN CORPSES
WATCH
bitchute.com/video/bdZShpxngh5X/
amiga500
9 Oct 2023 #133
should face the consequences of their crimes and be forced to accept Arab refugees from Palestinian settlements.
There are millions of Palestinian refugees in Jordanian refugee camps. Granted the oil rich wahabi states saudi et all have been **** weak in this regard.
I agree with your points, the arabs miscalculated against the intelligence of the Jews/Israelis. Like many arabs they were stupid. However that does not deny the fact of the present, the Israelis are treating the palestinian population in gaza/west bank like the nazis treated the jews in the warsaw ghetto. Do unto others what has been done unto you etc. the circle of life.
Water, electricity, telecomunications cut off in gaza right now.
Bratwurst Boy
9 Oct 2023 #134
Jordan would make a nice Palestine....most there are already palestinian arabs.....if the IDF is done with Gaza that should be a few more.
Best solution: Israel takes over Gaza as buffer zone and Jordan becomes new Palestine.....voila! :)
the Israel are treating the palestinian population in gaza/west bank like the nazis treated the jews
Really.....including starvation ghettoes and gas chambers!
Go Israel!

amiga500
9 Oct 2023 #135
Really.....including starvation ghettoes and gas chambers!
Israel has been rationing food and essential building materials into gaza for many years now. As far as i know there were no gas chambers in the warsaw ghetto.
Bratwurst Boy
9 Oct 2023 #136
Israel has been rationing food
Why should they? Rationing what food? Israeli food? Where are the stinking rich Arabs supporting their muslim brethren?
They wanted their independence...they hate the Jews and want to annihilate them....I never understood why Israel was always so generous with them!
It's the same with german money for these nutters....all in the name of humanity, the only one growing from that was sh*it Hamas! That support must end now!
amiga500
9 Oct 2023 #137
Rationing what food? Israeli food?
No. Rationing food and building supplies supplied by any international organisation. On the grounds of 'supporting terrorism'.
Bratwurst Boy
9 Oct 2023 #138
No. Rationing food and building supplies supplied by any international organisation
How? Any link for that?
Not to mention Gaza is not viable....that will never become any independent state for anybody.....artificial...an absolute useless breeding ground for nutter terrorists only.
I hope Israel ends that now!
amiga500
9 Oct 2023 #139
How? Any link for that?
Just my personal experience from visiting West Bank and Gaza. Sorry couldn't be bothered looking through pro palestinian media to find you links. Try Al Jazeera or Press TV
Crnogorac3
9 Oct 2023 #140
I hope Israel ends that now!
You do realize that would mean several million muslims more on their way to Europe and many of them settling in Germany? Does Europe really need one more islamic wave? For that reason alone I hope they are not successful.
amiga500
9 Oct 2023 #141
Major clashes between Hamas supporters and a pro-Israel group in Kirkland, Washington.
twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1711176380585537902
How that MultiKulti working out?
The United Nations says the number of displaced Gazans has risen to more than 123,000 as a result of the fighting between the Israeli military and Hamas following the militant group's attack across the border.
As of late Sunday (local time), retaliatory Israeli airstrikes had destroyed 159 housing units across Gaza and severely damaged 1,210 others, according to the United Nations Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs.
The UN agency for Palestinian refugees said a school sheltering more than 225 people took a direct hit.
Bratwurst Boy
9 Oct 2023 #142
You do realize that would mean several million muslims more on their way to Europe
Nah....that ends soon too....these nutters on our streets was a wake up call for many here too!
These people don't fit into our western societies and never will! And the supporting lefties are losing election after election....
How that MultiKulti working out?
A leftist pipe dream....it's over!
In Germany our immigration problem has become NUMBER ONE decisive factor for voters....
We are all Jews to them!
Crnogorac3
9 Oct 2023 #143
INCOMPETENT IDF: ISRAELI TANK KILLS 2 PEOPLE AFTER FLIPPING OVER ON HIGHWAY
WATCH
bitchute.com/video/gReMYBUKKmTi/
HAMAS OPERATIONS CENTER REVEALED - COMPARE IT TO ISRAEL'S COMMAND HQ
WATCH
bitchute.com/video/KqCGwEje5JsB/
Novichok
9 Oct 2023 #144
It is the only way to end the constant violence and civilian deaths and it should have been done decades ago.
Great post, GK.
As always, Western "leaders" come in two flavors: morons or warmongers. Even my cat knows that creating Gaza and WB was the ultimate in stupidity or premeditation.
Barney
9 Oct 2023 #145
@GefreiterKania
What a steaming pile of self justifying racist crap, anyone can find a reason to justify evil I suppose.
an absolute useless breeding ground for nutter terrorists only.
Thats exactly what Germany was and will become again unless they are brought to heel, there is another reason the US still occupies that genocidal ********.
The entire savage German nation have yet to pay for their barbaric crimes yet some complete Kraut dickhead vomit what passes for comment on bulletin boards of how other people are subhuman. you couldnt make this **** up...
Novichok
9 Oct 2023 #146
What a steaming pile of self justifying racist crap,
The only thing that's steaming is your post - a pile of crap GK cannot possibly respond to.
You forgot a hyphen.
Would you like to review what GK wrote and address the parts you disagree with?
Novichok
9 Oct 2023 #147
other people are subhuman.
Simple. Drop a million Israelis in the middle of the Sahara desert and in 50 years you will have Tel Aviv.
Drop a million Palestinians and in 50 years you will have a no-go slum or a million sets of dried-out bones.
Novichok
9 Oct 2023 #148
Quoting CNN:
Israel will "obliterate" Hamas, the country's envoy to the UN Gilad Erdan has said, ruling out any prospects of negotiating with the Palestinian militant group.
Speaking ahead of an extraordinary meeting of the UN Security Council on Sunday, the diplomat denounced Hamas as "a genocidal Islamist terror organization," comparing it to Islamic State (IS, formerly ISIS) and al-Qaeda.
"The era of reasoning with these savages is over," Erdan announced. "Now is the time to obliterate Hamas terror infrastructure, to completely wipe it out, so that such horrors are never committed again."
You never reason or negotiate with terrorists. You kill them and their kids so you don't need to be precise or try to arrest them "to bring them to justice". They like dying for Allah and the virgins so what's the problem?
These scumbags deliberately blurred the difference between an army and civilians just as they did with schools and ammo storage - a Palestinian trick to bullsh*it Western "press" with.
Alien
9 Oct 2023 #149
Drop a million Israelis in the middle of the Sahara desert and in 50 years you will have Tel Aviv.
You wanted to write that they will return to Tel Aviv in 50 years. After all, they once needed 40 years for one desert. 🤔
Novichok
9 Oct 2023 #150
You wanted to write that they will return to Tel Aviv in 50 years.
No. I wanted to write that in 50 years they will build a city like Tel Aviv - TA 2.0.
I forgot about a 1000-foot-tall wall to keep P-scum out.