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Zionism and World War II



Miloslaw
9 Jan 2020  #121

why do you want the US to be your bodyguard?

We don't.
You can leave whenever you want, in fact many Europeans have been asking you to leave since the 1960's
but you guys just won't go home............

Rich Mazur
9 Jan 2020  #122

many Europeans have been asking you to leave since the 1960's

I don't believe you, unless "many Europeans" means the beer slurping, drunk guys in pubs talking sh*it at 2 am.

As sovereign nations, you, the NATO countries, can evict the US army any time you want. There is zero evidence that any NATO country ever even passed a non-binding resolution to that effect. I do understand that NATO is a legally binding treaty and not simple to abrogate. But, telling the US army to go home is easy and has nothing to do with staying in NATO.

As one German visitor here told me, you guys like the US presence for the money we bring. This means that your principles are for sale. Just like the Chicago hookers - pay me and I will let you do things to me I would not without some green on the table.

Miloslaw
9 Jan 2020  #123

I don't believe you, unless "many Europeans" means the beer slurping, drunk guys in pubs talking sh*it at 2 am.

I can remember as a kid graffiti, which was rare then, saying "Yankee go home".

Rich Mazur
9 Jan 2020  #124

That tells me that you didn't read my post. If you did, you ignored - which is even worse.
I read yours and my response is this: who gives a fu*ck about kiddie graffiti! The only thing that counts is what your parliament did.

Miloslaw
9 Jan 2020  #125

@Rich Mazur
You could have left at any time.
No.It suits America to stay in Europe.

Ziemowit
9 Jan 2020  #126

It does. It suits both sides. And don't believe Americans when they say they saved Europe during the WW2 for nothing. If they didn't do it, Hitler would have reached them in the US sooner or later. Didn't Germany have advanced project on rocket propulsion? If you gave them more time, they would have done it surely. Wasn't von Braun a clear illustration of that hypothesis? The Americans just saved their asses fighting in Europe during WW2.

Miloslaw
9 Jan 2020  #127

@Ziemowit

Correct.

This article explains why the Americans are in the UK and it benefits the USA as well as the UK.

independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/unknown-territory-america-s-secret-archipelago-of-uk-bases-9084129.html

Have you ever seen the TV series "Man in the high castle"?

Joker
9 Jan 2020  #128

If they didn't do it, Hitler would have reached them in the US sooner or later

Total Bullshit, the US could have of dropped the bomb on Germany just as easily as they did to Hiroshima.

And don't believe Americans when they say they saved Europe during the WW2 for nothing.

We did save your asses! You would have NEVER won without the USA and can't win a war right now without us either.

The Erups started the first 2 world wars and since history has a way of repeating itself, you clowns will surely be at it again. Try to get along with you neighbors, for once!

They should combine the tiny Eurp countries into one, its not even that big of a land mass, no wonder, you are so Phucked up over there.

Youre nothing without NATO that is mostly funded by the American taxpayer.

Bratwurst Boy
9 Jan 2020  #129

Total Bullshit, the US could have of dropped the bomb on Germany just as easily as they did to Hiroshima.

I've read that would there really had existed a danger or if the war would had gone on for abit longer they would had "dropped the bomb" on Germany....Berlin probably...

No Bratwurst Boy today! :(

So I'm glad the war endet as it did....

They should combine the tiny Eurp countries into one,

The EU is our best bet for that...

Joker
9 Jan 2020  #130

So I'm glad the war endet as it did....

Same here BB! Im glad the GI`s helped saved the world from totalitarianism and destruction. When I see the degenerate offspring of the WWII victims spouting such rubbish its really disrespectful towards the American Soldiers that sacrificed their lives to save Europe.

Lenka
9 Jan 2020  #131

If they wanted to save Europe they wouldn't have waited few years to get there.

Bratwurst Boy
9 Jan 2020  #132

The war begun in 1939....the war ended in Europe 1945....that's not very long for "waiting" for a huge democracy to decide to send their own young men to fight and die to another continent and to save foreigners collective asses...it's actually quite short....

The US back than was quite isolation-minded and did not wish to become involved in other peoples squabbles, you can hardly blaming them for that!

When do you think they should have become involved instead?

johnny reb
9 Jan 2020  #133

We were to busy processing European refuge's.
There were four waves of deportations of entire families with children, women and elderly aboard from 1940 until 1941.
America was kind enough to take a large number of you and give you freedoms that you have never known before OR afterwards.
Then once the Poles started disappearing by the 100's of thousands and the people in the U.K. were eating rats America was kind enough to step in and shed our own blood to save what was left of your sorry collective asses from extermination.

You second and third generations forget so quickly and puke vile instead of showing respect.

Lenka
9 Jan 2020  #134

USA joined the war after they have been attacked and fer years after the war started for Europe. I wouldn't call that saving anyone but simply self defense.

And while I see no reason for Americans to join anyway (it wasn't their war after all, besides alliances) I don't see why I should praise them for fighting back their enemy. Their sacrifice was no bigger than anyone elses.

Bratwurst Boy
9 Jan 2020  #135

I don't see why I should praise them for fighting back their enemy.

I wonder what would had happened to Europe if they hadn't landed in '44.....

Joker
9 Jan 2020  #136

Lenka would being eating sauerkraut for dinner tonight, that's if her Gparents actually survived.

Its ppl like her that makes Americans think twice about ever helping Europe again.

Lenka
9 Jan 2020  #137

Oh, don't get me wrong- of course they helped and good it happened as it did. I'm just sick of the narrative. The Americans sacrifice was no bigger or smaller than all the other allies.

eating sauerkraut for dinner tonight,

Great- tasty and healthy

johnny reb
9 Jan 2020  #138

The Americans sacrifice was no bigger or smaller than all the other allies.

PA-LEEZE !
European countries spent about $958,275,000,000 (nine hundred fifty-eight billion dollars) on war production. America's spending at $341,491,000,000 is roughly one-third of what all of Europe spent on the war.

Now if that ain't a sacrifice to the family pocketbook then you tell me just what the hell is.
We didn't have to get involved at all for that matter which would have saved 300,000 American lives and another 700,000 wounded which rounds off to a million casualties because of why ?

I'm just sick of the narrative.

And I am sick of your ignorant ungrateful narratives so can it..........

Lenka
9 Jan 2020  #139

eating sauerkraut for dinner tonight,

Great- tasty and healthy.

so can it..........

Yes master...Oh wait, that is not one of your fantasies- get lost is more like it.

Omg, really? You spend more so now you expect Europe to bow for eternity? You do realise the difference don't you? When you fight war on your own land? Not to mention that most of it went to American companies- meaning back to the people. And a lot of Europe spending went to USA as well to buy weapons...

johnny reb
9 Jan 2020  #140

Yes master...Oh wait, that is not one of your fantasies-

No but I am beginning to think it is one of yours. HOOT !
(J.R. puts his face into his open hands, closes his eyes and can't image that they can make them any dumber)

Lenka
9 Jan 2020  #141

Than you? You are right- that is not possible.

The taxes went up for the people by 3% for like two years- do you really want to compare that to people loosing their houses, land and means of putting bread on a table?

And what was the alternative? Ignore the Japanese attack, and let the war unfold? Whether the war was won by Germany or by allies with Russians in the centre- USA wouldn't have liked that too much. They were worried about Soviets as it was- when they were present in Europe. How paranoid would they get if Russia was the only big player in Europe?

Again- I don't want to bellitle the soldier's death and wounds- I'm just saying that whole talk of gratitude, saving etc is too much in my opinion. Especially if it's used in any argument for 60 years after

johnny reb
9 Jan 2020  #142

Try 75 years after
(Still with his face in his open hands and eyes closed, J.R. wonders why he even wastes his time with his fatal attraction.)
Oh ja ja, give me strength..............

Lenka
9 Jan 2020  #143

You quoted me.

And it's funny how you suddenly became so precise in here and the radio thread when most of the time you claim not to give a damn :)

johnny reb
9 Jan 2020  #144

( J.R. loses interest, passes some gas and falls asleep... Zzzzzzzz......Zzzzzzzz........)

Miloslaw
9 Jan 2020  #145

I would never say a bad thing about the American troops that helped the allies win WW2, we could not have done it without them or the Russians.

The Germans had it in the bag.
I have been to the military graveyards in Normandy and I can tell you they take your breath away.
But although the American ones are the biggest, there are some huge graveyards there of other nationalities too.
There is even a Polish one.
But America did not do it to save Europe and they could not have done it alone.
So whilst America's help was invaluable and we could not have done it without them.
They did not win the war.
And for all that money spent that JR was prattling on about, they made the UK pay it back........

Lenka
9 Jan 2020  #146

And that is all I mean Milo.

johnny reb
9 Jan 2020  #147

Britain paid back the "loan" that "refinanced" their country.
Did that include all the U.S. military equipment that was lost ?
ie. ships, tanks, planes ?
Did that pay for the personal sacrifices by the G.I.'s. such as loss of wages for two years each.
How about the individual families in America that suffered and sacrificed by going without ? Who paid for that ?
You damn right I will prattle about the revenues that were lost by the American citizens never to be paid back.
And how about the other allies that still owe America for their loans ???
Thank you U.K. for doing your part.

Miloslaw
9 Jan 2020  #148

And that is all I mean Milo

I know.

@johnny reb

And this idiot keeps prattling on with his nonsense.
America did not save Europe in WW2.....many nations did, only Americans believe that crap.
America did what they did in WW2 for their own benefit and if others were helped along the way, that was fine too.
Hey, America and Britain NEVER do anything unless it is in their own interests......

Lenka
9 Jan 2020  #149

personal sacrifices by the G.I.'s. such as loss of wages for two years each.

That is interesting as from what I read private's pay more than doubled in that time...

Miloslaw
9 Jan 2020  #150

JR does not have a clue........


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