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Why AfD is the most important party in Germany



Rich Mazur
2 Apr 2019  #331

Again though, the lure of cheap labor is a powerful aphrodisiac, afflicting both manager and business owner alike:-)

...leaving the native working class in the dust. Brilliant.
The only time the ruling class gets a hard on for the natives is just before the election day. Getting the votes is a powerful aphrodisiac.

TheOther
2 Apr 2019  #332

What makes you think that there is a demand for people who neither have a sufficient school education nor the job skills that are needed in Germany? From what I've read, most refugees and migrants that are coming to Europe these days are poorly equipped to compete in any of the European labor markets.

Weimarer
2 Apr 2019  #333

@Tacitus

I dont insult nor do i scream.

Your problem is that you dont understand.

I have nothing against migrants. What happened in 2015 was a gargantuan crime against Germany and an absolute loss of control.

Tell, how do you want convince people like me...which are many millions in Germany...that something like that will never repeat? So far the AfD is the only thing we have to guarantee that 2015 will not repeat.

What we had was a massive collapse of order and the government showed that it is not able to protect Germany.

We also see now how arabs rule the streets in west GErmany and even block the Autobahn.

We see that police nd judges are weak.

I tell you something, the day we have a system like Australia with harsh law system, border protection and hard punishments for criminals. The day when we have that, i will stop voting AfD.

One thing, i´m a strong supporter for Asylum right. But not this madness.

So i have several questions:

1. Currently 600.000 illlegals must leave Germany. They stay. The law is ignored. How will you change that?

2. Again and again we see a massive failure to enforce law. People see this erosion. How will you bring back order?

3. How do you want implement people like me to feel secure again?

Lyzko
2 Apr 2019  #334

You seem to be waffling, Weimarer!

On the one hand, you've done little but rail out royally against migrants from certain countries. Now, you claim to have nothing against foreigners moving to Germany.

Geezloueez, make up your mind:-)

Rich Mazur
2 Apr 2019  #335

Geezloueez, why don't you answer his questions?

Lyzko
2 Apr 2019  #336

What questions? All I've been reading is double talk, masquerading as "factual" reporting:-)

Rich Mazur
2 Apr 2019  #337

Those questions:

Miloslaw
2 Apr 2019  #338

What questions?

We can all read his questions but somehow YOU missed them.....do you need new glasses mate?

Weimarer
2 Apr 2019  #339

@Lyzko

I have nothing against migrants who assimilate 100% and their numbers must be low. They must support their own living, work hard and go though harsh process to be let in.

Letting 1.5 million into germany within few months, without security check, some having 14 fake ID and get thousands of € welfare. Do you understand how this leads to AfD?

Miloslaw
2 Apr 2019  #340

He clearly does not......

Weimarer
2 Apr 2019  #341

He appears like a drooling idiot.

I try again.

600.000 illegals have no reason to stay anymore. They asylum got denied. Yet the law is ignored.

What worth has an asylum law, when everyone can stay, no matter if denied or accepted?

Answer this first question.

Miloslaw
2 Apr 2019  #342

He appears like a drooling idiot.

Agreed.
I think he is a lost cause......

Rich Mazur
2 Apr 2019  #343

Delete "I think".

What worth has an asylum law, when everyone can stay, no matter if denied or accepted?

Just to make you feel better and at the risk of another "O" violation, the US has exactly the same problem. We have over a million of the Latino garbage who exhausted all appeals, have received their final deportation notices, and are still here, instead of back in the sewer they came from.

Lyzko
3 Apr 2019  #344

I understand that I too would like a country in which all (im-)migrants learned our native language as well (or even as badlyLOL) as they possibly can, respect, at least acknowledge, the laws of the society in which they are living, most of all, willingly assimilate, and refuse to syphon off of the state.

As soon as you see that happening, please drop me a line:-)

Rich Mazur
3 Apr 2019  #345

I too would like a country in which...

...there are no migrants.
In fact, I would like a country like Poland and Hungary with all faces white, speaking the same language, believing in the same God, never saying "them" when referring to the natives, and respectfully standing when the national anthem is played.

jon357
3 Apr 2019  #346

I would like a country like Poland and Hungary with all faces white,

You're a bit late for that.

believing in the same God,

Good that you heve no problems with Muslims, Jews and Christians, who all have the same God.

Rich Mazur
3 Apr 2019  #347

I am unaware of any attempt to sync. Also, I have no problem with the Muslims 4000 miles away from me. Also, last time I checked, Muslims are kind of reluctant to let Christians and Jews build their churches and temples in the muslimlands in spite of your claim that they pray to the same God.

So, next time you are in Saudi Arabia, ask if their God is Jewish.
You do have life insurance?

Weimarer
3 Apr 2019  #348

As i said, unable to answer questions.

I try again...migrants with 14 fake dientity who get each month 8000 € welfare money. The office knows they are fake but they do nothing against it.

Robbings, insults, theft, drug selling...and nothing happenes.

Arabs drive on the Autobahn and then block it. When police come they laugh and nothing happenes. Police takes their ID and thats it.

jon357
3 Apr 2019  #349

So, next time you are in Saudi Arabia, ask if their God is Jewish.

I've been there and discussed this. The three Abrahamic religions have the same God.

Arabs drive on the Autobahn and then block it

Unfortunately, this is the level of discourse from juvenile neo-nazis like Weimarer.

Weimarer
3 Apr 2019  #350

Oh this is the discurse of young neo nazis?

Here some videos:

youtu.be/IouChUIrIKg

anotehr one: arabs blocking Autobahn and shooting into the air

youtu.be/k8qrxEaTkJ8

Here Turks block entire street:

youtu.be/r7LJbJCpztA

But saying this makes you a neo nazi?

**** off you moron

Bratwurst Boy
3 Apr 2019  #351

In fact, I would like a country

Nazi Germany tried that...but that doesn't do it for me. Being all of the same ethnicity, of the same religion and worshipping the same ruler, god, party, flag whatever isn't everything.

I wouldn't had been happy back then...and I wasn't in the equally homogenous GDR either. If my current happiness is bought with diversity so be it!

There can be made a case that to much uniformity can become quickly opressing and depressing...and humans usually don't work that way, to much individualistic at heart! :)

You might dream of such a country, but the reality would soon become a nightmare for many, of that I'm sure....

Weimarer
3 Apr 2019  #352

Reality is, that "multi culti always ends in chaos and instability. A multicultural nation is always harder, has moe crime and when times get difficukt. the nation breaks apart.

What we experience is the southamericanisation of Germany. Large no go areas and gated communities for the white elite. Pretty much to what i saw in Peru.

We stayed at Miraflores in Lima, which was rich, cool and hip. Around it was a high electric fence and wall, to keep the savages out.

delphiandomine
3 Apr 2019  #353

Large no go areas and gated communities for the white elite.

Which don't actually exist in Germany.

Bratwurst Boy
3 Apr 2019  #354

Reality is, that "multi culti always ends in chaos and instability.

If multi-kulti as right now is confined mainly to a few big cities and does not even reach the two-digit numbers I really prefer it to the homogenous nightmares of our past.

THAT chaos and instability and dreary endings (both of them) is nothing compared to what we have now....don't you agree?

Lyzko
3 Apr 2019  #355

Face it, Messrs Orban, Duda and whoever else, multi-culturalism is here to stay and the new face(s) of Europe will have to reflect this.

Although I'm neither a Pole, a Hungarian nor a Swede, I don't think I'd object too much, perhaps not at all, were I in school and my new

classmate were named Mehmet or Ali instead of Andrzej, Bela or Gunnar, as long as the new comers appeared to be making an honest-
to-gosh effort to both to assimilate as well as to at least attempt to blend in somehow with the host culture, paramount of course, learning to

communicate successfully in their new target language:-)

It's the recalcitrant, raw lumps of unassimilated flotsam and jetsam who land in tightly-knit homogeneous European communities who are those
causing the problems! To them I'd probably end up saying, "If you simply CHOOSE not to homogenize, our country allows you the freedom of returning to your homeland!"

That's a more than reasonable compromise, I should think.

Bratwurst Boy
3 Apr 2019  #356

I think most could agree with that.

It's always the few arseholes who destroy it for the rest...

That makes it so difficult to comprehend why certain politicians and parties and NGO's in Germany make it so hard/even impossible to throw these bad apples out and force the gov not only to keep them but to treat them with kid gloves and to further feed, cloth and house them. That makes the blood boil of every hard working, law abiding tax payer and guarantees the AfD rising support.

Alot of people lost their common sense...

Lyzko
3 Apr 2019  #357

And the bad apples out there have really spoiled the whole batch.

Miloslaw
3 Apr 2019  #358

There can be made a case that to much uniformity can become quickly opressing and depressing

Whilst I agree with that,too much immigration can have the same effect.
Immigration in moderation and ensuring that these people buy into the culture they are moving to is the way to go.
Variety is the spice of life,but too much is oppressive.

jon357
3 Apr 2019  #359

Here Turks block entire street:

I've seen plenty of streets blocked in Germany, particularly Berlin, and for all sorts of reasons. Kreuzberg on May Day was a surprise. It is irrelevant who blocks the streets; this is something that happens in big cities and has done so for many centuries.

We stayed at Miraflores in Lima, which was rich, cool and hip. Around it was a high electric fence and wall, to keep the savages out.

Who are 'the savages'?

THAT chaos and instability and dreary endings (both of them) is nothing compared to what we have now....don't you agree?

Yes. We've got a world that's getting smaller, a human race that is getting less divided by region year on year. Nobody can stop that, whether they like it or don't. Some clocks cannot be turned back.

Lyzko
3 Apr 2019  #360

Gotta admit, and I've seen plenty of protests in my time, several in real life as well on the TV news, I've never seen the sort of protests of late that I've witnessed

on German television in the streets of Berlin and elsewhere, showing some protesters defecating on the streets to vent their rage.

Oh by the by, folksies, the latter were homegrown ethnic GERMANS, not non-white foreigners!!


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