Why AfD is the most important party in Germany

@Rich

Since when does love hurt anybody, and don't please rationalize or side-step by
saying that smothering love can be hurtful!

You've already insulted our intelligence enough by not simply admitting that
hate speech is bad. You're constantly playing the Devil's Advocate as though
this most serious of issues were to you little more than a mere intellectual
parlor game.

You obviously never talked with a stalking victim.

And I never will.

Hate speech is a defense tool we use before we use fists and, ultimately, knives and guns.

Did you notice that a human hand is for both hugging and hitting?

If you still can't grasp the awesome brilliance of my post is, consider this. A guy is about to break into your house. If you are mute, you are unable to say, Hey, you piece if s***, get the f*** off my property before I blow you f***ing head off! That's hate speech as a defensive tool. Other than maybe you, no human in a situation like that ever said, "Would you kindly stop what you are doing and leave before I get seriously upset". Maybe in Europe, where you have to retreat instead of resisting. Like the French.

The ultimate irony: that "hate" speech would probably save the perp's life. Without it - I mean the speech - that guy would be as dead as a nail in a couple of seconds if I were the hate speaker. In Europe, the land of love, the homeowner is required to invite him for tea and cookies. At least that is what I heard.

You heard wrong. In Germany self defense is allowed as long as its adequate.

If someone pushes you, you cant blow his head off. If someone attacks you, you can defend yourself.

If you are not allowed to own a gun, facing a couple of drugged up Muslim migrant m-f**ers with knives you are as defenseless as a ten-year-old girl.

To an American, that "adequate" is repulsive. What is "adequate"? How do you defend yourself "adequately" when attacked walking down the street or at home while unarmed? Call 911?

In the US, when my life is on the line, there is no such thing as "adequate". It's anything that works. And, the best part is that I am not required to figure out what the sob wants: my life or just my wallet.

Except that simply isn't true, even in your alleged home state.

illinoislegalaid.org/legal-information/what-legal-definition-self-defense

As the law makes clear, you can only act in proportion to the threat, just as in most European countries.

Weimarer,

Stalking is always for a sinister purpose! Never mistake it for honest "love"; it's another word for possession.

Pure nonsense as it would require that I read the a-hole's mind at 2 am in my own house. Quoting:

In each case the following conditions must exist to justify the use of force:

There was imminent danger or threat to you, someone else, or your property;
The threat was unlawful;
You believed that a danger existed that required force; and
You used force that was equal to the threat.

That 2 am visit meets all of the above without them saying a word and on my assumption alone that they came to commit ALL of these offenses - including murder to eliminate a witness, me. I am not required to ask, are you going to just have a coke or are you going to kill me when you are done sipping.

That is why in a civilized country like the US we have the stand your ground laws and presume that the owner has a right to defend himself without ANY need to assess what the intruders want.

Same while walking in the park at 10 pm. From that website:

deadly force is also allowed to prevent a forcible felony such as:

Sexual assault
Battery
Murder
Robbery
Arson

When three black teenage thugs walk up to a couple at 10 pm and demand a wallet from the guy, that's all he needs to fire.

While waiting for the definition of "adequate"...
A while back I called the Naperville police department and asked what my lawful responses to a home invasion are. Without any hesitation, buts and howevers, they said, fire but not the perp's back while he is near the door. Then, call us.

That's it.

You are allowed to have a gun.

Just recently a pensioners shot a criminal who broke into his home and was not brought to court since it was self defense.

This case makes my blood percolate...
stripes.com/news/europe/army-civilian-in-landstuhl-says-he-fought-like-hell-during-home-invasion-that-left-one-intruder-dead-1.568452


Do you have one at home?

Just curious...
Our cops routinely have that "We Serve and Protect" on their squad cars. Which is a complete lie if one thinks it's the "unwashed" they serve and protect, not the system and our owners.

What is painted on the doors of the German police cars?

@Weimarer,

Just in your home state alone, you'll recall a certain Robert Steinhausen, who (although you were just a teen at the time) back in around '05, blew away a whole bunch of folks at an Erfurt high school!

Legally permitted to carry a gun as he had a state-authorized hunting license (Jagd -u. Waffenschein), he nevertheless highlighted the problems of easy access to firearms, even if allowed.

Easy access to the pointy kitchen knives is a huge problem, too. The problem with that problem is that when a knife is used to murder, the results are not spectacular enough to be on TV as the lead item. Just as the retail - one victim at a time - murders in Chicago. Nobody cares about those. But ten people once a year - man, that big stuff.

Any attempt to ban those idiotic pointy kitchen knives would meet the shrieking women head on. Yeah, I have to stab that turkey!
So, it's the guns and the evil men that is a problem, not the knives or drunk drivers who kill just the same.
The greatest mystery is why women hate guns like they - the guns - are some venomous snakes instead the great equalizers.

Kitchen knives though are not specifically designed to kill, guns, assault rifles (such as that young man in Erfurt was carrying on him at the time) are!

Your entire line of reasoning is so provocatively lame brained, it beggars consideration.

Name one legit purpose for the POINTY, 8-inch long knives other than to stab and kill. Or just look awesome - the purpose as moronic as they come.

They sell those abominations because the stubborn women want them for the reasons not one of them was able to explain when I asked.

Purpose?? To cut, slice or dice!

Come on, a cooking implement isn't the same as a hunting knife, is it? You're purposely evading the issue.
The old saw "Guns don't kill people, people kill people" is fallacious; if the people didn't have a gun on them, it would never go off!

The potentially deadly trajectory of a knife thrower can be diverted, if caught in time. Once a gun or rife goes off and it hits it's target, that's it.

I am going to do it only one more time. This time by using CAPS and BOLD


express.co.uk/news/uk/840634/Ban-kitchen-knives-pointed-doctor-deadly-knife-crime
POINTY. P-O-I-N-T-Y.

Not all pointy instruments are designed to be used as weapons of mass destruction, Rich!
How about a surgeon's scalpel? Indeed, anything can in theory be used for a violent or destructive purpose, while guns were invented for SOLELY one purpose, to kill.

For the last time:

Not being in the culinary field, I'd be hard pressed to answer, Rich!
Why not ask some crazed, meat cleaver-wielding chef:-)

No, the problem was that in my state you could go 12 years to school and when you fail one etst you stand with nothing.

That was what made him go amok. And that was changed.

Perhaps that's what pushed him over the edge. However, the societal questions of what motivated such an extreme reaction, go of course far deeper.

Good news, AfD is now strongest political force in all east german states:

welt.de/politik/deutschland/article192226289/Sonntagstrend-AfD-jetzt-staerkste-Partei-in-Ostdeutschland.html

Reason will ultimately prevail, Weimarer!
After all, this isn't 1933, all rumors to the contrary:-)

As soon as it reconsiders its program to become more inclusive, perhaps then,
but only then, will it be given a second look.

Of course reason prevails, thats why AfD wins so much.

Believing you can bring 500 million 3rd worlders into Germany, that you cant protect borders sounds not reasonable for me. Actually the 500 million is even lower than what Merkel suggested. Merkel said "immigration without limits"

Thats why people vote AfD, to bring reason back into government.

14%?

25% in eastern Germany. Strongest party there.

And yes, 14% all Germany combined. 5 years ago AfD was at 3%. Never before in last 50 years was a party able to win so much in such short time.

Things will be interesting in the future. NRW is lost and will be a caliphat. Höcke says its clear that eastern Germany stays pure Germany and will most likely act like the Castille in medival spain, which was not part of the caliphat and the core of Reconquista

Not too good; if you want to exercise power, you'll have to burn the Reichstag again...


A new 'Alpenfestung"...

Good enough to have Merkel forced to change her politics by 180° and do AfD politics.

What i find amusing Jonny, how does it feel for you? I mean you live in Poland which is ruled by a government that is more far right that AfD even and which even funds us.

Your PiS does lobby work for AfD and even paid events. With your tax money you pay our drinks and food at a congress.

Who's still very much in power.


People ignore them very easily.


Not mine ;-)

I like that Merkel is in power. She is so weak and clings on her seat. I doubt another chancellor would do as much concessions to us as Merkel does.