Why AfD is the most important party in Germany

There is a simple rule in life: guests, like fish, stink after three days.
Illegal immigrants and refugees smell bad from day one.

I have responded to you via pm, I hope you have ears for in all sincerity what I have to say.

Germany must stay Germany. Thats what matters.

Im proud to live in a German state with almost zero foreigners. I dont want live with africans and middle easterners. Im a german, i want only germans around me.

I have no problem with tourists and guests as long they also leave after their visit.

So you spend hours upon hours online ranting about the AfD, yet you claimed to support the CDU to the polling companies?

Plattenbau fantasies again.

The nice thing about Germany is that all those migrants will get the vote too. Beautiful.

Maybe I might actually register myself in Germany on Monday, just to be able to vote in the election there instead.

@delphiandomine

Nope, i only write here when i have nothing to do at work.

And of course i say i vote CDU. There is not the time yet to reveal my ideology.

Germany is not a free country, you can get your career destroyed if you dont agree with the regime.

And no, migrants cant vote. You need german citizenship to vote.

Im really excited for the result. Polls predict a massive win for the far right in EU and im happy i can be part of that.

Your meant short visit?


Either it's sarcasm or you are just trying to p**s him off. Either way it's a stupid and hateful thing to say.


I really don't get it why, with all these brainiacs and deep thinkers around here, you are the smartest and the most honest one.

That is their weapon. The difference between the old-style communist regimes and the Western "democracies" is where you end up when you upset the ruling gangsters - in a gulag or unemployed and unemployable.

economist.com/europe/2019/05/18/germany-is-cautiously-recruiting-more-workers-from-outside-the-eu?utm_source=quora&utm_medium=referral

"...."If you advertise in the newspaper, you get zero!" cries Peter Kaufmann, who runs a house-building firm in Oberstadion, a village near Ulm. He reckons he could raise his headcount from 100 to 150 if he could find more bricklayers and carpenters. Services like elderly care and tourism are crying out for workers. Nicole Hoffmeister-Kraut, Baden-Württemberg's economy minister, says labour shortages hurt growth. And Germany's greying workforce makes this a problem for the ages...."

As I said, the european source for laborers is slowly but surely drying out....expect many more immigrants from outside of Europe! Most of them are of course not anywhere near the german "Facharbeiter" level, but the companies are already resigned to train them themselves.

@Bratwurst Boy

You cant train them. They are destind for eternal welfare and they never get any jobs. They come for welfare and terror.

Too counter your bullshit:

A report commissioned by the German government found that newly-arrived asylum seekers were behind more than 90% percent of the increase in violent crimes in the state of Lower Saxony.

As of December 2017, an estimated 600,000 able-bodied asylum seekers in Germany were on the welfare dole, according to Die Welt. "More than half of the able-bodied unemployment benefit receivers at present are of foreign descent," wrote Der Spiegel on April 10, 2018.

Meanwhile, poverty in Germany, especially among elderly pensioners, has reached a historic high.

gatestoneinstitute.org/12182/germany-migrants-coverup

There is another future that looks more likely.

In West Germany the clans have taken over many areas. We will see a massive rift in Germany. In west local caliphats will be established. Similar to the Caucasus and Afghanistan. We will see the breakdown of public order and this already begins, as they discuss to allow Polygamy, cutting off girls clitoris and call this enrchment.

Contrary to that stands east Germany as remaining cultural homogenous and oppossing fiercly the influx of that.

The interesting development is, that West Germans start to move to East Germany which speed up the africanisation of West Germany.

No sane european wants to live in a Kalkutta style ******** like Essen or Cologne.

The interesting point will be how this will develop.

We either build up massice defense lines towards the west or later on start neo colonialism to reconquer the western areas. Similar to the reconquista in Spain under Isabella of spain.

Weimarer, you just wasted 10 minutes you will never get back. He will skim over, say "yeah, yeah" a couple of times and will soon post how all of what you wrote is a small price to pay for the extra 2% in the GNP. Profit first, remember this sacred rule.

What he will never tell you is that all of what you just described would survive an honest referendum among Germans.

@Rich Mazur

Not 10 minutes, more like 30 seconds. Plus my shift ends 17 o clock today. There is not much to do today.

With the handful of people left in the Plattenbauten? It's more likely that they'll move to the West to get a job, because certainly no-one is moving to the glorious socialist wonderland of East Germany for work, with the exception of Leipzig and Dresden.

Let's face it: East Germany is dying and will be dead once the current bunch of pensioners die off.

Next time try to hide that glee and your smirky smile.

I think I see your problem here...you think it's somehow MY fault....that I make the rules....that I can decide how it works?

I'm just the messenger here Rich, spare your ire.

But I know better than you how it works, how our economy works, that nobody in power will "close the borders". Not even the AfD or LePen...There is nothing worse for your chances of re-election then a tanking economy. And an economy without growth, without enough laborers, without enough consumers will undoubtly shrink, meaning the people get poorer, factories will close...

You and Weimarer might want to pay the price but I assure you most people will not. Even Trump is now on the backtrack...he talks now about wanting the "skilled" immigrant, ROFL....welcome to the race Mr. President. You and every other developed country wants him. Even as the US might have a better chance then some middle sized country like Germany with that strange language. Our advantage is our place in the middle of Europe with alot of neighbours and of course, the EU with it's free movement of goods and laborers.

I don't make the world...I'm only living here! And compared to the socialist past I'm not complaining.

Take all your energy and instead of fighting me uselessly think about a real alternative...something that could work and is not socialist. But I personally think the only thing stopping that Völkerwanderung will be the digitalization....otherwise consumers will be always needed....so...I'm all eyes! :)

Bullsh**! Nothing would tank. In fact, Germany would be richer by not spending the invisible money on the foreign garbage. No, I will not rattle off the list again.

The only thing will say again is that the so-called "low cost" labor is low-cost only to the economic morons who are too stupid or too stubborn to look at the FULL ledger sheet.. They only find one side - the side that better fits their greedy, private agenda.

Here is a flash of genius - me: send jobs outside, and DO NOT BRING FOREIGN SH** HOME!!! That would make many Germans available to be nannies or the nurses in the old folks' homes.

Nope....that is not an alternative...that is an opinion!

A lone opinion at that....show me some written support for that....by economists and other experts...I would like to read some logical justification for that. Otherwise it's more like wishful thinking, and that helps nobody!


Oh and accusing the messenger won't change one thing one bit, sorry...fail!


Well...thats what the companies did who packed their bags and rebuild in some poor low labor cost country. But that only works for cheap work, whenever you need skilled workers the bosses still rely on highly educated and specialized workers at home...

There were some really disappointed unhappy camper as that became known. It seems they couldn't just interchange their workforce 1:1...decades of training and education weren't to substitute so easily. A reason for a come back for many...

And some branches just can't relocate to somewhere else..(like middlesized craftspeople, rest homes etc..)

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Not to mention that sending jobs and income to far away lands will support their economy and makes far away people happy but that is not so great for the homies...

Most people ARE paying the price! They, being economic ignorants, just don't know it because they don't see it. We have the same sh** going on here. What dumb masses see is the price of a trinket made in China and sold in Walmart. What they don's see are the trillions in the US bonds held by foreign and hostile regimes. And 22 trillion of debt. Maybe Germany is lucky in this respect. And maybe because Germany found a sucker where to dump the excess production and where to look for defense welfare. That would be us, the US.

If we stopped you predatory imports, you would have plenty of native Germans picking tomatoes and street garbage.

@delphiandomine

Wrong as usual you rodent. Since 2016 more people move to the east than to the west.

West Germans dont want live in a african ********

welt.de/politik/deutschland/article179807002/Ostdeutschland-Immer-mehr-kehren-in-die-alte-Heimat-zurueck.html

ln-online.de/Nachrichten/Politik/Politik-im-Rest-der-Welt/Erstmals-mehr-Umzuege-von-Westdeutschland-nach-Ostdeutschland-als-andersherum

The article says: For first time ever more people move from west to east germany

I can understand why.

Last year i was 4 days in Kiel and 3 Days in Stuttgart. It was disgusting there. Like Islamabad. I was glad when i finished my seminar there and could return home.

Now move away and take your ZB pill

Also Eastern Germany has teh highest birthrate of all German states.

And here its german children. So its children that actually have value.

I agree. Most people just want to be happy consumers!
That means that our economies are build around that fact. And our industry leaders are anything but ignorant.

(The decision to live ascetic and to relinquish alot of the capitalist comfort for a "good cause" nowadays comes actually mostly from the greenies to "save the world".)


Such work isn't done by Germans for a long time now...

Lately I needed to clean out my basement...the only German I spoke with was the boss of the company....the inspector and later the movers had all been non-Germans with barely any german language at all.

Most people would rather stay home drunk. Therefore, we should print more money to let them.

Most kids would rather eat ice cream than veggies. Therefore, parents should buy ice cream, not veggies.

Most people would rather get things for free. Therefore, the government should force merchants to give things away.

Your posts are getting stupider and stupider.

Is that all you've got? No arguments anymore? So sad...;)

Truth hurts! Nobody will close the borders and the immigration will go on...no matter that you are sitting at the computer fuming and ranting. Even the extremist party leaders with their big mouths won't, they all depend on the economy and the industry.

@Rich Mazur

Stop to debate with Idiots. You will not convince them.

Those people are lost.

Its important to create facts.

Demonstrating migrants and debates change nothing.

Fighting them, does.

One of the problems is that borders have a different impact on the people in Europe than e.g. those in the USA. In the USA you can ramble about closing the borders, because ultimately most of its' people do not live close to the border of other countries and are thus likely to only to be indirectly affected by it. But in Europe with its much smaller states and closer proximity to each other, nvm Germany with its' many neighbours, it is an entirely different matter. Not to mention how closely the European economies are integrated with each other, and how much it would threaten its' just-in-time supply chains.

@Tacitus

Nobody needs to close teh borders inside EU.

Its exactly this fake **** spread by idiots like you.

You dont need to close border in Europe, when you protect the borders outside of Europe.

Close down the mediterranean. Lock down border to Turkey and you can have your EU free market.

Mot people in the EU also live far away from african and arab ****`holes. Thats the border the far right wants to be closed.

Morons like you talk like we want the borders between European countries closed.

@Rich,

Nobody likes to be "ruled". Plain fact is, somebody has to be, right?
That said, why necessarily be a despot? Why not command by example, by solidarity such as former Exec. Aaron Feuerstein? Sure, he had to lay off thousands of his plant workers. And yet he compensated each and every one for as long as their period of job search ran out, and that must have run into quite a tidy sum!

An example to us all.

It is worth remembering the incredibly huge sums of money that West Germany have pumped into the ailing economy of the former DDR. And despite all that East Germans continued to vote with their legs and kept moving to the "rotten" (western) part of the country. The last year was the first year ever showing a surplus going in the opposite direction.

Btw, does anyone remember the pretex under which the DDR's communist leader Erich Honecker was after the fall of the Berlin wall invited to Chile by their right-wing and anti-communist regime of the time?

The GDR had offered asylum to many dissidents after Allende was overthrown, and by 1990 Chile had become a democracy again (Pinochet only held offices as part of deal that allowed said transition to democracy). For the same reason the government of Chile repeatedly defended their decision to help Margot Hoenecker evade justice.


Which no doubt is helped by the fact that East German has still very cheap living costs, and thus have become very attractive for students from the West (who now live in cities that have been heavily subsidized by West Germany, with my brother being one of them). Unfortunately the rise of the AfD makes it less attractive for those young people to permanently live there.

I put those two close together to show what debating idiots looks like.

The conclusion from the first quote is that the good and democratic government listens to the people and does what the people want. I am so touched.

But, strangely, when the people want no migrants, no refugees, and no welfare for the scum, that same good and democratic government loses its hearing and turns stupid. And says to those same people: shut the f*** up and do as we say.

Some Germans are told to vacate their apartments to make room for the foreign garbage. And some idiot here will tell you that this is what the Germans want.

I thought about it and i believe my problem is, that Merkel and all ministers appear weak to me.

They failed in 2015. They could not protect our country.

They say what happened in 2015 will never repeat. I dont believe them. I dont trust them. I cant.

Now i see Merkel as they throw tomato and eggs on her. She has no authority left.

We live in dangerous times and i dont trust oir government can protect us.

The most infuriating thing in discussing almost anything with the apologists like BB, is that they never admit the obvious: Western "democracies" are not democracies at all and differ from the old-style classical oppressive regimes only in the degree how they punish those who didn't read the memo. Yesterday's prisons became today's financial ruin - the latter even more effective as it avoids creating martyrs. But the message is the same: STFU and do as you are told, or else.

Feel like venting? Wait for another phony elections.

For what am I apologizing?


Compared to my experience western democracies are the best we ever had!

...and that is no apology!