Why AfD is the most important party in Germany

Almost certainly means the end of them for now. Their electorate is disgusted with this, as it's shown that they're willing to sell out Austria for personal gain. Offering to hurt a big and well known Austrian company was always going to go down badly.

I've read the influential KRONE tabloid is already washing their hands of them...and they supported the FPÖ and their rise in the first place. But now hearing that they were about to be sold out to the Russians was a mean wake up call.

But I don't think Strache is stereotypical for all far-rights...he is an extremely dumb individual!

Oh, he is. They're all about gaining power at any cost, and they couldn't care less about who they hurt in the process as long as they gain from it.

Hey, this thread is about AfD, not Democrats.

@delphiandomine

Strache is a single man, That has nothing to do with FPÖ.

You know german leftist SPD member Edathy? Who was big into childpronography.

You say the SPD party is big into childpron too?

Strache is merely a Haider clone, no different from any other racist, willing to mask insidious bigotry behind photogenic smiles, pretty Alpine scenery, schlag and oodles of strudel!

LOL

It has everything to do with them, and they're paying the price.

It also looks like Kurz will fall, as both the FPO and SPO will vote against him. Not sure why the SPO are bringing him down, but perhaps they feel that it's their best chance rather than letting him lead a successful semi-technocratic government.

My bet is on Kurz that he will come out as the big winner. He might gain alot of disappointed FPÖ voter...

That seems to be the logic behind the SPO bringing him down - if they leave him in control till September, he would be able to gain on the FPO vote. Elections now allow them to say that they brought the government down because he can't be trusted, I suppose.

Risky move by them though, as he seems to have come out of this looking like a respectable politician who didn't hesitate to get rid of the FPO.

Best entertainment (from afar, that is:)

@delphiandomine

Just as evry socialist is a pedophile as Edathy showed.

That said, that wont save the african lovers. Kurz is incredible popular not just in Austria but also in Europe as a whole.

It also wont stop the division in Europe.

I find it quite amusing that liberals believe when tehy topple popular conervative leaders like Kurz, that the people will change their opinion and say: Woohooo now i totally support unlimited waves of savage 3rd worlders. Let them in!"

Winning a vote of confidence is what matters, not your popularity in rural Hungary.

@delphiandomine

Given the poll results of the SPÖ it could be very possible they dont exist in next year anymore. When you see in Germany, the once proud SPD has fallen on unimaginable levels already.

No matter if you want it or not, the times of letting evry 3rd world scum into Europe are over.

Politicals games dont change that. Infact it furterh speeds up radicalisation.

What interests me really is how people like you would like to do with us.

When i see at my village, AfD got over 70% here in last election. In all of THüringen its roughly around 20% and because of that no coalition is possible.

So what do you think should Merkel do? At the moment she tingles around and promises something like 2015 will never repeat and bla bla.

Why you think she crawls so much infront the far right voters?

The Austrians have always been the most conservative of the German speakers, second only perhaps to the
German-speaking Swiss:-)

All that victim crap regarding the Anschluss? BS from start to finish! It was after all on the streets of Vienna in '38, NOT Berlin,
Hamburg or even Munich, that Jews were gleefully forced by the Viennese to scrub the sidewalks, amid taunts, jeers, sometimes
physical assaults upon resistance.

Oh no. The Austrians, such as Seyss-Inquart, Dolfuss, Kaltenbrunner etc. were more perfervidly "Nazi" than the Nazi Germans
themselves!

The poll results that put them solidly in 2nd place with 26% of the vote? The FPO are the ones that should be worrying about their future, not the SPO.

People too are simply fed up with failed liberal policies, as in Germany, Hungary, and Scandinavia.

Maybe Denmark is showing a way out?

The danish Social Democrats are going tough on immigration, copying the danish version of the AfD or FPÖ, the DV.
On the other hand they are going further left at the same time.

A very scandinavian variant of National-Socialism. I can imagine that this could be the model of the future for the whole of Europe.

It seems to work for them. It could work for us!

time.com/5504331/denmark-migrants-lindholm-island/

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Democrats_(Denmark)#In_opposition:_2015%E2%80%93present

That's basically PiS in Poland in a nutshell. Very left wing economically and believing in heavy state interference in the economy, yet right wing on social issues.

@delphiandomine

SPD in Germany is nowhere near 20.

They collapsed and in some states have to fear to fly out parliament.

We talk about the proud SPD which once placed chancellors and now has condensed into a laughing stock.

Btw best news come from Italy. New law says for each negroid the NGO pull out of the water and attemp to land them on italian soil, the NGO has to pay 6000 €.

I love that new law.

There might be the difference to western social democrat parties...

Denmark is the country I was thinking of, B.B.

Pia Kjaersgaard spoke to what unfortunately, yet somehow inevitably, the average Dane could relate to.
Tolerance goes only so far. On the other hand, overt racism and violence towards migrants should NEVER EVER be passively condoned as the 'new normal'!!

Perhaps in the end, Denmark's reputation since WWII as an anti-Nazi bulwark and Jew-friendly society came more from their sheer hatred of the Germans, rather than any special feeling

toward the Jews:-)

I was reminded some time back, that the Resistance hero Kai Munk was in fact an anti-Semite.

@Lyzko

I dont see hate and violence in active and effective border protection, deportation of illegal migrants ect.

A nation without borders ceases to exist as a nation. Germany is the country of Germans. Thsts a simple fact. Germans also happen to be a ethnic group.

I want to live with my people, not with arabs and not with africans. This is my home and i want to have a home.

And as a keen student of German history, you do realize of course that your country for generations, yea, centuries prior to the Bismarck Era, was known as "The Land in the Middle" aka without perceptible borders; "Germany", as Goethe observed, the non-existent amalgam of separate, small independent Dutchies, Dukedoms etc. only bound together by the German language:-)

She'd further been called by many Germans "Die Tenne" or "threshing board" of Europe.

@Lyzko

Never before in history was Germany flooded with negroids and otehr 3rd worlders.

And during middle ages the german population suffered incredible harm, poverty and terror.

And we see now, that without protecting borders we will go exactly there to poverty, terror and in this case even worse, an attack against us as people.

Without Germany, the GErman ethnicity gets uprooted and destroyed.

This is the only home we as the german people have. And i´m not willing to give up my future for this

While you make an understandable point from the perspective of "homeland sentiment", there is obviously a reason why there are apparently so many of the sort shown in the above photo. The simple fact is that Germany is physically one of the most damnably attractive places on this planet and one really can't blame some poor slob from a Third World country wanting to share in something of the German prosperity dream, can one?

See that, it's your own fault for being so good; you've become the envy of the world:-)
LOL

@Lyzko

Our house is near the field. Its incredible attarctive for rodents. Thats why we have 5 cats.

They all are good rodent killers but the best one is Astrid. She is a beast.

What pray does that have to do with Blacks in Germany. wholly apart from black G.I. during the immediate post-War period of the US-Occupation?

One of 'em became a big movie star, Franz Kauffmann, son of a black father and a German mother:-)

Probably most Blacks in Germany today as recent migrants don't live too differently from you all.

@Lyzko

Such a big star i never heared about him. Son of a *****.

I assume they live very different. I dont get spit on, hunted through streets or not served in shops.

Just was voting together with my father, my girl and my siblings. We all voted AfD. :D

Never heard of "The Marriage of Maria Braun"???!
You must have grown up in a cave aka the Old East Zone, 'cuz that was the rage during the late '70's in German cinema:-) Franz Kauffmann and Hannah Schygulla are filmed 'doing it' in an illicit affair, she being in love with US servicemen, and who delivers the best line in the film.....IN ENGLISH!!!

And don't give us that routine about not having been born yet!