Let's debate American Politics

@delphiandomine

Yup your right on several points.. About 30% of us mba grads go into consulting. However the more prestigious internationally accredited aacsb grad schools i.e. Stanford yale Arizona state univ duke DePaul etc etc generally want their applicants to have at least 5 years corporate experience. Im talking aboutb the better schools not like the online ones or community colleges that only have regional accreditation and have no gmat gre requirement to get in. Most ppl in mba are around their early 30s, a few late 20s and a few older guys like 40 50 etc.

The starting salaries vary from aacsb school to school but generally are around 100k. However some finance mba that have a lot of experience under their belt already can expect 150 even 200K or more. There's a ton of info on mbas on a site called poets and quants. Apparently one Stanford grad got an 800K a year job right out of finishing their mba.

I'm probably gonna go into finance too specifically microfinance in the Latino world esp south america. There's tons of potential there and the mbas are compensated fairly well.

@Lyzko

Yea thebwoodstock hippie culture was great andnitndid a lot of good. They were very active politically and achieved much of their aims with nonviolence. Antifa would look a lot better if they acted more like the Woodstock types

Also Jon I clearly condemned and disavowed the alt rights actions. However the antifa arentninnocent either. As Ben shapiro article explained they're both cancerous and the us would do a lot better without both groups constantly feeding off each others violence and antagonism. Like I said both groups are idiocy and thanks to the violence now a girl is dead, tons of buildings were destroyed and burned, innocent bystanders sent to the hospital, and plenty of other violent illegal acts.

Woodstock allowed a lot of rich-kid counterculturists to get stoned off their socks and pretend to live out the iconic John Lennon hit "Imagine..."
Imagine what the world might have been had those "crazy kids" actually applied themselves to the society around them and refused to thumb their noses at convention.

Always felt kind of sorry for the "victims" of Kesey's Merry Pranksters. Never quite knew what hit 'em.

On the other hand, the parental male figuers in "Rebel Without a Cause" (James Dean's dad and his girl friend's father, respectively, Jim Backus and William Hopper) did act rather clueless and myopic (not to mention downright mean, as when Hopper smacks his daughter in the face before dinner for "acting childish").

For pity's sake, people, wasn't there some middle ground, somewhere???!

@Lyzko

True but a lot were also the hippie vw bus driving commune living types who marched peacefully in civil rights rallies and advocated non violence to achieve their goals.

Also lsd was was way more common than it is now and a huge part of the culture. A good acid trip kills your ego and makes you more humble appreciative and empathetic.

Also a lot of these guys were in college back in theb60s whereas most people just finished high school. So as they matured many ended up living normal lives and have successful careers. One of my best friends parents were at Woodstock and were total hippies but now they're just a regular upper middle class suburban family

Instead of these angry hate filled leftist mobs they've created!

Yet another riot!
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The Left is responsible for 95% of these riots and attacks, fueled by the dems, msm and lefty hate groups like BLM and Antifa

The millennials are lazy, don't want to work and expect everything for free. A byproduct of PC safe zones and participation trophies.

Nazis: "Let's commit genocide"
Antifa: "Let's not"
Black Lives Matter: "Stop shooting us"
Relativist: "I can't tell these apart"

@Joker,

Trump is a by-product, NOT of the button-down Wall St. establishment cronies, as I've said before,but of the ultra-erstwhile "hippie-radical" types gone sour,and disillusioned, such as Duck Robertson, Cliven Bundy, those Texas separatists, the "I AIN'T PAYIN' NO GOV'T. TAXES..." types, hog-drivin' Easy Riders etc.. who thumb their noses at polite convention!!

They're a toxic brew of anti-establishment "Don't Tread On Me" thinking and "To Hell WIth The Poor" cynicism, driven to make money hand over fist, regardless of fair play and all the rest of such wonderful intangibles:-)

What kills me is that when I was in high school my friends would poke a lil fun at me for driving a pos car. There were some kids who drove brand new range rivers hummers bmws etc. One kid even drove a Ferrari to school everyday. Anyway 10 15 years later many of these kids finished their bachelors but have a crappy job or they ended up dropping out or are still living on their parents dime. I worked since I was 15 and even before that id help my dad at work. A lot of these kids esp from well heeled families simply didnt bother to work and build up their resume gradually, save money, etc etc. Now they say I'm 'lucky' for having a good job nice cars and a nice home. Well it isn't luck. I worked since I was 15 and had more work experience by the time i go into college than these kids did several years after graduating. Now they're stuck cutting sandwiches at a deli unless rheir parents used their connections to get them some half decent corporate job. I came from poverty we were dead broke when we came to the us. My rents didn't even known the language. But we all worked hard, lived frugally, saved money and eventually achieved the proverbial American dream.

That's why it irks me so much when people say that it I got lucky or complain that they cant get a good job. They blame and play the victim instead of shutting up getting off daddy's couch and building up your resume.

Well Jon all 3 commit violent acts so in that sense yes they're all the same. Antifa has very little restraint their leader publicly stated on a CNN interview that they don't view destroying property and torching cop cars and breaking Windows at unis and stores is an act of violence. They purposely follow conservative events like trump and milo just to antagonize them, assault peaceful people walking to such events including families who are conservative but clearly not neo Nazis... And trash and burn stuffnalong the way.

Also more whites are shot by cops than blacks and that's a fact

@Dirk, that's partially my point! It is those counter-culture turned "establishment" suburban business-suit wearing 9-5ers out there (like Jerry Rubin, later onto Wall St, success) who gave up on their former dreams of a kumbaya-like world and went into the markets etc, with a vengeance.

Most of them are Trump supporters, surprise, surpriseLOL

In the same way the alt right doesn't represent the conservative Republican community neither does antifa represent liberal democrats. Antifa however doesn't distinguish between neo Nazis and conservatives/republicans they attack anyone that's going to a conservative/Republican event.

Sadly Jon it seems as if you're doing the same thing. Equating neo Nazis who are a tiny percent of conservatives/republicans with the tens of millions of normal hard working family oriented conservatives who arent racist and denounce the alt right.

You've proven incapable of denouncing antifas actions - their violence, the fact they show up uninvited to conservative events just to commit violent destructive acts and terrorize attendees, as well as their waving of losers ussr flag which collapsed decades ago. You single out just one group when others cause far more violence time and time again.

It won't be long before antifa arrives uninvited at some trump event or conservstive speakers event and assaults people. That's their whole m.o. their leader admits it and they openly strategize online. They seek violence and confrontation yet you refuse to denounce them. That shows how biased and unobjective you are. Unlike you, the conservatives such as myself and trump (same day he said many sides are to blame which is an accurate statement as antifa clearly assaulted people too) denounce the actions of unite the right. However your unable to denounce and condemn a liberal group when they do violent acts which leads one to believe that you like when they do this. Perhaps you won't openly say that you do but by not denouncing and condemning antifas violence against innocent conservstive families walking to an event means that you're giving them the nod and wink to continue doing these things.

Neo-Nazis and White Supremacists merely represent the disenfranchised "fringe" of American society, hopefully not the mainstream.

Unfortunately, Lyzko, those losers are one of the loudest groups, the ones who've organised a 'summer of hate'

They may have been knocked back now, however I suspect you haven't sen the last of them.

That's for darn sure, jon!

You can't get rid of crab grass. Those killer weeds always seem to pop up, destroying plant and flower alike:-) Expressed another way, "A bad penny ALWAYS turns up somewhere:-) A bad seed will surely harvest, despite the reaper's best efforts.

@jon357

Loudest of what group? Conservatives? Definitely not. No neo nazi group has elected members in any middle to high ranking positions in state or federal government positions. There's a documentary online about a reporter spending time with some neo Nazi group I forget if it was the KKK or NSM or some other group but anyway one guy was upset because he couldn't even win enough votes to manage the local county water department. Their numbers are tiny and most of them are methhead loser high school dropouts who live in trailers or their moms basement - just like antifa.

Atleast no one complains though that the alt right smell like BO. Apparently not showering and being unhygienic is common amongst antifas. So many bystanders note how bad they smell whereever they seem to show up. Maybe this is their form of chemical warfare or a psychological thing? Be as smelly, disgusting, unshaven and unshowered as possible to bring more effect prior to attacking innocent people just as they did in Illinois, Wisconsin, California, Seattle, and plenty more cities. I doubt neo Nazis represent even a whole 5% of all conservatives/republicans in the US. Yet you foolishly equate neo Nazis with general trump supporters/conservatives/republicans/etc which is the furthest thing from the truth. That would be as dumb as if I said that antifa is the most vocal and prolific of the democrats. Idiotic isn't it? Or if perhaps I said thanks to Sanders success early in the presidential campaigns and continuing popularity , antifa has become more vocal and attacked more conservatives than in the past.(I think he had a good chance even beating trump but unfortunately the subversive, lying, cheating democrats swooped Sanders' success down from under him which has been proven in the Wikileaks dump. Bunch of backstabbing savages in suits.) The fact is though BLM and Antifa are funded by Soros who has a fetish for subversive destruction action and ruining countries and dividing them as much as possible amongst political and racial lines. He is a master of divide and conquer unlike anyone else living today. What's funny though is several BLM members went public because they were upset they didn't receive the $5,000 they were promised from a Soros funded org for causing rioting in Ferguson.

Furthermore, hardly anyone gives a crap about the far right 99% of the time and the only reason they're in the news now is because one member killed an innocent girl. Otherwise it's antifa who's constantly in the news, including now since they definetely weren't innocent in VA. Actually there's a lot of video evidence online that shows the rally from beginning to end and it's clear violence didn't start till antifa and blm showed up. Antifa and BLM have been in the news regularly for the past year due to their destruction of property, mayhem caused in California, assaulting innocent people, shutting down speakers who were INVITED to speak at universities, terrorizing innocent people, attacking people just for wearing a MAGA hat or shirt, and even using weapons like bats, mace, glass bottles, etc. against people. Antifa ALWAYS comes dressed in armor and with weapons to any event with conservatives for the sole purpose of picking a fight with them.

Most conservatives came to hear a speech or see some politician or perhaps even protest. The antifa comes to fight and shut down a speech or rally which is a direct assault on freedom of speech and freedom of assembly - that's the difference - conservatives have respect for the constitution and respect far left people to hoist ussr or stalin flags. Not antifa though - they spit on free speech and freedom of assembly and do whatever they can to cause enough violence to shut down a speaker or event they disgaree with. They even chant SHUT IT DOWN as they're assaulting innocent people. You'll see this same B.S. happen again very soon I guarantee it. Just wait till another conservative speaker is INVITED to a college campus or trump holds a rally. Antifa will come UNINVITED packing armor and weapons ready to battle with any conservative that's there - especially if they're wearing a MAGA hat or shirt regardless if they're just standing there or walking.

They will attack anyone who has an ideological position different than theirs - kind of like you - only you do it with words instead of violence which is good at least. However, instead of attempting to gain a real unbiased objective understanding of the other side's view, having an open honest dialogue and coming to a middle ground, you refuse to do so and stick to your ideology 100% even going as far as not condemning violence from groups that the far left protects - like radical muslims, blm cop killers, and black gangs who kill thousands. That's rather ignorant because your bias is preventing you from gaining an objective understanding of normal conservatives and the violence and terrorism the aforementioned groups cause which again, is exponentially higher than any neo Nazis.

You also fail to realize though that waving a Nazi flag isn't illegal, the far right had the proper permits which the ACLU helped them obtain, so they definitely had everything in order. Yes it's stupid and I think waving it's digusting but nonetheless such speech is protected. By assaulting a person waving such a flag you are spitting on the constitution's free speech and freedom of assembly. You and the left prefer to censor such things but regardless of your feelings such speech and assembly is protected. The USSR and stalin flags offend me but that doesn't mean that I'd attack them and I would condemn anyone who did attack a person waving such a flag because that's promoting totalitarianism, elimination of free speech, assembly, etc. which you FAIL to do. That's awfully biased and unobjective. =

Furthermore you refuse to condemn violence and terrorism unequivocally. I really thought you were better than this man. I'm not saying that to be mean because I respect your points of view and enjoy debating with you but this entire time you're refusing to condemn violence and terrorism equally regardless of who causes it. You come up with excuses on why you won't do it and why you keep going on and on about the far right guys. You say that 'well this is what's in the news now - this is what's trending.' Not true in the least bit - this whole past week stories ranging from Islamic terror massacring people in Burkina Faso, radical muslims driving cars into French soldiers who were deployed thanks to the 2 year state of emergency caused by muslims who torch entire neighborhoods and caused millions of dollars of damage to property. Kind of like the way antifa destroyed buildings and cars in California and their leader publicly states he and his group don't believe that damaging property and committing arson is violent nor a morally bad thing to do. If you're going to be so upset about terrorism and violence you shouldn't focus on just one group that does the least amount of it. You ought to be objective and unbiased enough to condemn ALL forms of it - especially the ones who cause the highest death tolls. Namely radical muslims and black gangs. Like I said, black gangs kill more people in a summer month in just my city alone than all white nationals in the entire us have killed in the past 20 years. Not to mention the muslims which kill exponentially more people than black gangs.

Then you attack me for 'relativizing.' Well yes, if we want to bring down murders, terrorism, and violence in significant amounts not only in the us but around the whole world we ought to look who causes the most deaths. That would be undoubtedly be radical Muslims and gangs. Actually it seems like the Muslims were the first to drive cars into masses of people like in England and now just recently again (about 4-5 days ago) in Paris. Absolutely no condemnation of their violence and terrorism despite the fact that they killed far more people than that one guy in VA. If we're to tackle issues whether it's combating global warming, bringing down murder rates, etc. people look for how to make the biggest different and look who or what causes the majority of provlems associated with a certain issue. With global warming its cars perhaps (honestly I don't know just using that as an example) and with deaths and murders it's definitely black gangs and muslim terrorists. If you want to bring down the murder rate significantly, not just in the us but around the world, we ought to look at those who cause the majority of such issue, in this case terrorism, murder, etc., and clearly the facts and numbers show its not white radicals. Nonetheless, yes I do condemn their actions as I condmen those of the left, islam, etc. Even if slavs killed innocent people in a terrorist attack i'd condemn it. Yet you're incapable of even condemning violence by the aforementioned groups.

And FYI - no 'spectacular' doesn't mean 'extreme' thesaurus.com/browse/spectacular?s=t Right under it it says 'adjective - wonderful, impressive'

Amazing, astonishing, grand, magnificent, splendid are all also synonyms. Therefore based on your comment that the backlash will be spectacular one can only assume that you're describing the backlash as wonderful, impressive, grand, magnificent, amazing, etc.... Don't see extreme anywhere... Hence, one can only assume the backlash, in your opinion, will be amazing, astonishing, splendid, magnificent, etc. You could've used a word like horrible or even deadly to describe the backlash but you refuse to condemn violence caused by the left.

There's a such thing as constructive criticism. Perhaps you could try it against antifa so they stop assaulting innocent people everytime a conservative speaker is invited to a campus or some republican holds a rally. Or you could constructively criticize muslims for killing scores of people and say that they ought to give peace a chance.

This is my last statement on the events in VA. Its been fun debating but I want to move onto another topic.

@Lyzko
They're definitely not the main stream. Republicans don't like them because they constantly give us a bad name.They represent a tiny fraction of the conservative/republican voting base. It's just that the biased media uses them for the sole reason of trying to brainwash people into thinking that all conservatives/republicans are like this and are full of racism and hate.

Funny because they interview the vice mayor who openly discusses on his twitter feed how much he hates whites, how white women look like bean stalks, and even disses his fellow blacks for speaking like intelligent white people. I can't believe he was vice mayor for this long. Good thing he's gone now. If you want an example of hate speech, just look at the things this guy said. There's a link a few posts back that greggy posted.

@Joker

Just watched it. Absolutely no respect for property - and this appears to be in front of a courthouse so that's a huge criminal offence since it's government property. Destroying government property is a felony. Way harsher penalties than destroying private property. I hope these people are caught and put in prison. Although I predict the pencil neck excuses for men will like prison since they can be some big black guys punk.

The right doesn't go around destroying statues that far leftists revere or property in general for that matter. The far 'revolutionary' left destroys all sorts of property whether its university buildings, starbucks coffee shops, random peoples' cars on the street, cop cars, etc. They are truly an extremely violent criminal group with no respect or sense of honor. I hope these people get arrested for destroying government property. They clearly committed a crime and the tape is more than enough evidence. We can pretty confidently predict that conservatives won't destroy any leftist statues as retaliation. Conservatives would have to stoop really low to be at antifa/far left's level if they wanted to play eye for an eye. One would really have to be a huge scumbag to get to their same level of wanton destruction, disrespect for other peoples' opinions as well as property that has been displayed time and time again by antifa and other far leftists. I could never stoop as low as revolutionary left has because I have honor and respect for myself as well as other people even if they have different political views, traditions, customs, religion, etc. as long as they have respect for mine too. The far left like antifa does not - it's their way or the violent, arson filled highway. Man I should switch careers and become a prosecutor or judge so that people regardless of ideology don't go around assaulting people and destroying. Most democrats aren't like this and it's unfortunate because these antifa types give democrats and liberals a bad name. Most of them abhor this type of behavior, even if they wanted the statue down they'd go about it the legal way instead of just destroying government property because you don't like it or assaulting people because you don't like their ideology. Most democrats are way above such idiotic actions.

That's probably one of the lamest comments yet about this scandal. I suspect certain names on the far-right are far better known than many "elected members in any middle to high ranking positions in state or federal government positions". They're sure as hell louder.


Nope, this one is lamer.


And right on cue, entirely as expected, you tried to imply a moral equivalence between those who are marching under the banner of death, terrorising townsfolk, intimidating minorities and those who are protesting them.

I couldn't be bothered to read the rest. For sanity's sake, there's no point reading someone trying to defend nazis.

You're right antifa does march under a banner of death with a bankrupt losers flag and terrorize innocent people. You must not have very good reading comprehension skills because no ones defending neo Nazis. You conveniently skip over the fact that I called them idiots and denounce their violence, which your unable to do when its a leftist group that does it. Shame

Just as antifa is louder than many middle to high ranking dems. You should denounce their violence

Also I was referring the chanting of shut it down to all conservative rallies I.e. California chicago Seattle etc. If there's a conservative speaker you can bet they want to shut it down because they're a bunch of low life thugs who spit on the constitutions freedom of speech and freedom of assembly.

You forget that although morally reprehensible waving a Nazi flag or ussr flag isn't illegal. Attacking people that do though is. Antifa doesn't 'protest' they cause violence. The Woodstock generation and mlks movement for the most part were protestors challenging injustice. Antifa is just looking to pick fights and destroy property and attack anyone wearing a maga hat. Shame that you support such violent thugs and refuse to condemn their illegal acts.

No Dirk. No, simple as that.


Shuting down the neo-nazi 'summer of hate' is an entirely noble objective.


You keep mentioning these 'antifa' people. For some reason. Anyone might think you were limply trying to distract attention from the torchlight-bearing, swastika-waving far-right 'summer of hate'.......

Its the absolute truth! Confirmed to me by an undercover Chicago Police Officer working at the Nato summit.

You don't live here and quite clearly don't know what you are talking about!

Youre just another foreigner trying to push his anti American liberal agenda upon us, get lost Limey!! You and your Soros backed urban terrorists!!


Because Dirk speaks the truth and you can't handle the truth! He in NO way is defending Nazis!

You should read it, perhaps you might just learn something dummy!


Destruction of Federal property is a criminal offense and they have video evidence of the culprits. They should be arrested and prosecuted.

Very accurate analysis with your previous posts! Despite what some foreign expats think....lol

I wonder why he and his cohort left the UK and moved to Poland? Maybe it was the all racism in their countries that make them leave or perhaps they moved because a Locust needs new crops to feed off!

Its not just an average criminal offense like a misdemeanor getting caught with a bag of weed it's a felony. A kid in my hs got caught stenciling a caricature of a black guy with rhebwords smoke crack under it on a cop car bc someone ratted him out. He had huge problems to say the least. He didn't serve time but he got 2 years probation and tons of fines. They went easy on him bc he was still in hs. When you destroy government property whether its a post office, cop car, or a statue in front of a court house its a felony.

The conservatives can keep holding their high ground. No need to lower themselves to antifas level. Let them keep doing these types of things and well win again in 2018. Antifa is a small percent of dems but because they're so violent and attack people expressing free speech and freedom of assembly they get a lot of press, bad press. Although they don't represent most dems beliefs and most abhor their violence, unlike jon, uninformed voters will equate antifa thugs with dems at large and even though such an assessment is incorrect its good for us. Itll just help republicans secure a majority again. Most dems denounce their violence like even lyzko. Yet Jon seems have a very hard time condemning violent criminals.

Antifa are fighting a losing fight anyway. They're too dumb to realize they're playing into a divide and conquer strategy. All around the western world conservatives are growing stronger. People are getting sick of losing their sovereignty and being forced to accept agendas counter to their beliefs. Of course there will be some areas like say Cali or chicago that'll always lean more left which is fine but what's important is that conservatives have their lands. To me thats Poland and I'm pretty confident knowing my own countrymen that they'll turn into a multi kulti land in my lifetime. Same with russia. Yes its a diverse land of many religions Putin is doing a wonderful job protecting orthodoxy, Russian customs and traditional family values. Hes united Russians and made the country stronger because of it. At the same time he lets districts like Chechnya do their own and assists kadyrov in promoting traditional Chechen and Muslim beliefs all the while keep Islamic terror at bay locally.

In poland the leftists it have it far tougher than Uk. Uk is much more liberal but even there many brits got sick of the mass immigration and being told by a Brussels how they should run their country. Hence Brexit. Eu is showing cracks and people want their sovereignty back especially in the east. Poland is very homogenous and most poles are against things that are common in the west. For example you'll never hear any conversations or political debate on tranny bathrooms. Such things are foreign to poles and not even discussed. Same with the migrant crisis. Poles put their foot down and said no way, eu do your worst. Even many po supporters are more centrist and don't want such things in their country. Fyi antifa is extremely weak in poland. Anytime a half dozen or dozen show up to narodowcy or pis event people chant anti ha ha ha to mock them.

The difference is though antifa in poland as well as leftist protestors aren't violent and don't trash and burn property or assault innocent people. They chant hold up signs or whatever but are peaceful. Total opposite of antifa in the us.

Curious you guys which y'all feel is worse, the aesthetically offensive B O coming from the unwashed left, or the pungent political and social halitosis emanating from the Alt-Right!

Both are pretty malodorous in my opinion (...wait a sec as I reach for my gas maskLOL)

@Lyzko

Well neither are good but not illegal. Both speak volumes about the people tho. Low hygiene denotes little self confidence, poor self esteem and lack of respect for ones body. Racist language denotes unsophistication and a limited worldview. All races and nationalities contribute to human kind in some way or other. I agree though, rather disgusting. That's why I condemn both sides. Not their right to assemble and say stupid things which is protected constitutionally but the violence and destruction they csuse while doing so. I don't like it when someone waves a Nazi or ussr flag but its that persons right to wave losers flags. However if a person feels the need to bring weapons and armor to some demonstration its clesr they aren't there for peaceful purposes and to exercise their right of speech and assembly.

I'll take scruffy people opposing far-right swastika waving fratboys any time.

Opposing fascism is normal. The baseline. Decent human behaviour. If some of those who are actually prepared to come out on the streets and tackle them look less preppy than the so-called 'alt-right' nazi scum they're opposing, I won't lose any sleep.

@jon357

Opposing facism and injustice in general is fine if done legally and nonviolently, which antifa doesn't do. What antifa does though is oppose all conservatives and innocent republicans even if they have nothing to do with neo Nazis. Thats spitting on what America stands for - freedom of speech and freedom of assembly regardless of how stupid ornreprehensible ones ideas and chants are no one has the right to shut them down and attack them violently. In offended by ussr flags because I had family members killed by people under that banner but nonetheless I live in the us and abide by its constitution. Its illegal for me attack that person waving the losers flag and anti constitution. It appears that freedom of speech and freedom of assembly is a foreign concept to you perhaps the explanation that both a loser waving a Nazi flag and a loser waving a ussr flag are constitutionally protected and attacking them is illegal. Unfortunately antifa not only attacks 'fascists' but any republican conservative or person they don't agree with. Even the more liberal leaning the Atlantic condemns antifa violence. Republicans in Oregon have a hard time even registering voters because antifa attacks them. They're not just opposing fascists - they oppose anyone who's a conservative or Republican and they do it violently. That's immoral illegal and against what the us constitution stands for. Its too bad your bias prevents you from seeing that and condemn their illegal violent anti American. acts. You don't get to pick and chose who has the right to assemble and what they can say. As long as they're not yelling fire in a crowded building they can saynjist about whatever they want. I disagree with what they say I thought 'jew will not replace us' is reprehensible but nonetheless in America they are free to say it. This isn't the uk buddy.

Fascism is inherantly unjust. They're losers, however being a snowflake towards them gets nowhere.


Worth fighting against any torchlit swatika-bearing rally about that. The clue is in the name 'summer of hate'. Better to stop them now, rather than later when they've partially achieved their goals.

I found this online. It's a fair assessment.

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Thinking of how much the far right Charlottesville marchers and their supporters are losers, have you noticed some of favourite vocabulary of the so-called 'alt-right'?

They like saying (or more usually writing online) expressions like 'alpha male' and 'beta male' (totally misunderstanding the meaning) as well as above all 'cuck'. The words they use reflect their own most deeply held insecurities. As I say, losers.

Those are left-thugs-crime-hate groups. What is worse seems like politicians are suing them to their ends. Removing police protection and inviting antifa to incite violence and score political points. The blood of that killed woman is on that Democrat a governor or a mayor who ordered the police to back off.

@jon357

That would be fine if they're just attacking fascists but they're not - they go after any conservative, Republican or anyone who's ideology isn't totally in life with theirs. Youre too biased and unobjective to process that. You should be more open minded.

So you not only refuse to condemn violence unequivocally, you're now promoting violence against people exercising free speech. Very very shameful Jon.